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Tim July 21st 09 05:10 AM

Yo Tim!
 
On Jul 20, 9:32*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:08:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.


Well you know what happens when your joint goes out - the
whatchamajiggers just hang there doing nothing.


Yes, nothing more un-fitting, than having bad parts and lame tools!

NotNow[_2_] July 21st 09 01:59 PM

Yo Tim!
 
Lil' John wrote:
This is what fell out of my swing arm when I took if off today.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0011.jpg

Look familiar?
--

John H


Well, there's your problem!

NotNow[_2_] July 21st 09 02:09 PM

Yo Tim!
 
Tim wrote:
On Jul 20, 6:24 pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 20, 4:46 pm, Lil' John wrote:
This is what fell out of my swing arm when I took if off today.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0011.jpg
Look familiar?
--
John H
John, that's beat to heck!
I'd be suspicious of the coupler too and something else to look into
is to see if there was any seal damage done to the rear end. I hope
the drive shaft isn't bent.
Some people might say I must full of "good news" about this, but when
you consider that type of consequential damage there could be more
than just replacing a u-joint.

The carrier bearing is in good shape, and the joint was still fitting
snug therein. That's good news. The destroyed end is the transmission
end. The visible splines slide onto the transmission output shaft.
The transmission seemed OK, but I'll put it through the gears and give
it the stethascope test before reassembly.

The bike has to be ready for a trip north in about six weeks.
--

John H


Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.

I had it welded and the guy did a good job, and all seemed to work
fine. I was afraid it would vibrate, but didn't seem to. Even
dealerships had a hard time getting new ones in the late 70's. So the
only alternative was to take it to a good machine shop and have it
welded.

then my brother got a hold of the bike and rode it for some time, then
the rear end went out. I'm not sure if when the u joint went it
damaged a seal or not, and maybe it was coincidental, but still, he
was good to blame it on just the same.

?";^ ).

It's that damned whatchamajigger that's causing all of your problems.

Lil' John July 21st 09 11:48 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:08:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 20, 6:24*pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 20, 4:46*pm, Lil' John wrote:
This is what fell out of my swing arm when I took if off today.


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0011.jpg


Look familiar?
--


John H


John, that's beat to heck!


I'd be suspicious of the coupler too and something else to look into
is to see if there was any seal damage done to the rear end. I hope
the drive shaft isn't bent.


Some people might say I must full of "good news" about this, but when
you consider that type of consequential damage there could be more
than just replacing a u-joint.


The carrier bearing is in good shape, and the joint was still fitting
snug therein. That's good news. The destroyed end is the transmission
end. *The visible splines slide onto the transmission output shaft.
The transmission seemed OK, but I'll put it through the gears and give
it the stethascope test before reassembly.

The bike has to be ready for a trip north in about six weeks.
--

John H


Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.

I had it welded and the guy did a good job, and all seemed to work
fine. I was afraid it would vibrate, but didn't seem to. Even
dealerships had a hard time getting new ones in the late 70's. So the
only alternative was to take it to a good machine shop and have it
welded.

then my brother got a hold of the bike and rode it for some time, then
the rear end went out. I'm not sure if when the u joint went it
damaged a seal or not, and maybe it was coincidental, but still, he
was good to blame it on just the same.

?";^ ).


I've never heard of welding a u-joint to repair it. There was a guy in
AZ or somewhere out there that would replace the bearings if they were
caught soon enough, and he would put grease fittings in them. Don't
know of anyone who ever bought one from him though.


--

John H

Lil' John July 21st 09 11:51 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:13:27 -0400, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Jul 20, 6:24 pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 20, 4:46 pm, Lil' John wrote:
This is what fell out of my swing arm when I took if off today.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0011.jpg
Look familiar?
--
John H
John, that's beat to heck!
I'd be suspicious of the coupler too and something else to look into
is to see if there was any seal damage done to the rear end. I hope
the drive shaft isn't bent.
Some people might say I must full of "good news" about this, but when
you consider that type of consequential damage there could be more
than just replacing a u-joint.
The carrier bearing is in good shape, and the joint was still fitting
snug therein. That's good news. The destroyed end is the transmission
end. The visible splines slide onto the transmission output shaft.
The transmission seemed OK, but I'll put it through the gears and give
it the stethascope test before reassembly.

The bike has to be ready for a trip north in about six weeks.
--

John H


Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.

I had it welded and the guy did a good job, and all seemed to work
fine. I was afraid it would vibrate, but didn't seem to. Even
dealerships had a hard time getting new ones in the late 70's. So the
only alternative was to take it to a good machine shop and have it
welded.

then my brother got a hold of the bike and rode it for some time, then
the rear end went out. I'm not sure if when the u joint went it
damaged a seal or not, and maybe it was coincidental, but still, he
was good to blame it on just the same.

?";^ ).


Geeze, looks like it got pretty dry.. Shouldn't it have some grease in
there??


Nope, no grease goes in there. They are supposed to be permanently
lubricated, which is BS. If grease is packed into the swing arm with
the u-joint, it'll just melt and run into the final drive, overfilling
it.
--

John H

Lil' John July 21st 09 11:52 PM

Yo Tim!
 
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:32:35 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:08:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.


Well you know what happens when your joint goes out - the
whatchamajiggers just hang there doing nothing.


The whatchamajiggers get caught in other moving parts!
--

John H

Tim July 22nd 09 12:47 AM

Yo Tim!
 
On Jul 21, 4:48*pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:08:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 20, 6:24*pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Jul 20, 4:46*pm, Lil' John wrote:
This is what fell out of my swing arm when I took if off today.


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0011.jpg


Look familiar?
--


John H


John, that's beat to heck!


I'd be suspicious of the coupler too and something else to look into
is to see if there was any seal damage done to the rear end. I hope
the drive shaft isn't bent.


Some people might say I must full of "good news" about this, but when
you consider that type of consequential damage there could be more
than just replacing a u-joint.


The carrier bearing is in good shape, and the joint was still fitting
snug therein. That's good news. The destroyed end is the transmission
end. *The visible splines slide onto the transmission output shaft.
The transmission seemed OK, but I'll put it through the gears and give
it the stethascope test before reassembly.


The bike has to be ready for a trip north in about six weeks.
--


John H


Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.


I had it welded and the guy did a good job, and all seemed to work
fine. I was afraid it would vibrate, but didn't seem to. Even
dealerships had a hard time getting new ones in the late 70's. So the
only alternative was to take it to a good machine shop and have it
welded.


then my brother got a hold of the bike and rode it for some time, then
the rear end went out. I'm not sure if when the u joint went it
damaged a seal or not, and maybe it was coincidental, but still, he
was good to blame it on just the same.


?";^ ).


I've never heard of welding a u-joint to repair it. There was a guy in
AZ or somewhere out there that would replace the bearings if they were
caught soon enough, and he would put grease fittings in them. Don't
know of anyone who ever bought one from him though.

--

John H


No, the coupler got a crack. the u-joint was demolished like yours and
cracked the "whatchamajigger" that the u-joint fits in.

Just wait a frekin' minute! July 22nd 09 01:00 AM

Yo Tim!
 
Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:13:27 -0400, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Jul 20, 6:24 pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 20, 4:46 pm, Lil' John wrote:
This is what fell out of my swing arm when I took if off today.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0011.jpg
Look familiar?
--
John H
John, that's beat to heck!
I'd be suspicious of the coupler too and something else to look into
is to see if there was any seal damage done to the rear end. I hope
the drive shaft isn't bent.
Some people might say I must full of "good news" about this, but when
you consider that type of consequential damage there could be more
than just replacing a u-joint.
The carrier bearing is in good shape, and the joint was still fitting
snug therein. That's good news. The destroyed end is the transmission
end. The visible splines slide onto the transmission output shaft.
The transmission seemed OK, but I'll put it through the gears and give
it the stethascope test before reassembly.

The bike has to be ready for a trip north in about six weeks.
--

John H
Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.

I had it welded and the guy did a good job, and all seemed to work
fine. I was afraid it would vibrate, but didn't seem to. Even
dealerships had a hard time getting new ones in the late 70's. So the
only alternative was to take it to a good machine shop and have it
welded.

then my brother got a hold of the bike and rode it for some time, then
the rear end went out. I'm not sure if when the u joint went it
damaged a seal or not, and maybe it was coincidental, but still, he
was good to blame it on just the same.

?";^ ).

Geeze, looks like it got pretty dry.. Shouldn't it have some grease in
there??


Nope, no grease goes in there. They are supposed to be permanently
lubricated, which is BS. If grease is packed into the swing arm with
the u-joint, it'll just melt and run into the final drive, overfilling
it.
--

John H


Er, uh, I meant the grease in the dead bearing... Yeah, that's the ticket;)

Tim July 22nd 09 01:07 AM

Yo Tim!
 
On Jul 21, 6:00*pm, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:
Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:13:27 -0400, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:


Tim wrote:
On Jul 20, 6:24 pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Jul 20, 4:46 pm, Lil' John wrote:
This is what fell out of my swing arm when I took if off today.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0011.jpg
Look familiar?
--
John H
John, that's beat to heck!
I'd be suspicious of the coupler too and something else to look into
is to see if there was any seal damage done to the rear end. I hope
the drive shaft isn't bent.
Some people might say I must full of "good news" about this, but when
you consider that type of consequential damage there could be more
than just replacing a u-joint.
The carrier bearing is in good shape, and the joint was still fitting
snug therein. That's good news. The destroyed end is the transmission
end. *The visible splines slide onto the transmission output shaft..
The transmission seemed OK, but I'll put it through the gears and give
it the stethascope test before reassembly.


The bike has to be ready for a trip north in about six weeks.
--


John H
Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.


I had it welded and the guy did a good job, and all seemed to work
fine. I was afraid it would vibrate, but didn't seem to. Even
dealerships had a hard time getting new ones in the late 70's. So the
only alternative was to take it to a good machine shop and have it
welded.


then my brother got a hold of the bike and rode it for some time, then
the rear end went out. I'm not sure if when the u joint went it
damaged a seal or not, and maybe it was coincidental, but still, he
was good to blame it on just the same.


?";^ ).
Geeze, looks like it got pretty dry.. Shouldn't it have some grease in
there??


Nope, no grease goes in there. They are supposed to be permanently
lubricated, which is BS. If grease is packed into the swing arm with
the u-joint, it'll just melt and run into the final drive, overfilling
it.
--


John H


Er, uh, I meant the grease in the dead bearing... Yeah, that's the ticket;)


John, you sure you don't need my book?

Lil' John July 22nd 09 02:56 AM

Yo Tim!
 
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:00:05 -0400, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:

Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:13:27 -0400, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Jul 20, 6:24 pm, Lil' John wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:09:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 20, 4:46 pm, Lil' John wrote:
This is what fell out of my swing arm when I took if off today.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1/_DIS0011.jpg
Look familiar?
--
John H
John, that's beat to heck!
I'd be suspicious of the coupler too and something else to look into
is to see if there was any seal damage done to the rear end. I hope
the drive shaft isn't bent.
Some people might say I must full of "good news" about this, but when
you consider that type of consequential damage there could be more
than just replacing a u-joint.
The carrier bearing is in good shape, and the joint was still fitting
snug therein. That's good news. The destroyed end is the transmission
end. The visible splines slide onto the transmission output shaft.
The transmission seemed OK, but I'll put it through the gears and give
it the stethascope test before reassembly.

The bike has to be ready for a trip north in about six weeks.
--

John H
Odd, my u joint went out on the dif. side. and cracked the coupler,
velocity joint, whatchamajigger, etc.

I had it welded and the guy did a good job, and all seemed to work
fine. I was afraid it would vibrate, but didn't seem to. Even
dealerships had a hard time getting new ones in the late 70's. So the
only alternative was to take it to a good machine shop and have it
welded.

then my brother got a hold of the bike and rode it for some time, then
the rear end went out. I'm not sure if when the u joint went it
damaged a seal or not, and maybe it was coincidental, but still, he
was good to blame it on just the same.

?";^ ).
Geeze, looks like it got pretty dry.. Shouldn't it have some grease in
there??


Nope, no grease goes in there. They are supposed to be permanently
lubricated, which is BS. If grease is packed into the swing arm with
the u-joint, it'll just melt and run into the final drive, overfilling
it.
--

John H


Er, uh, I meant the grease in the dead bearing... Yeah, that's the ticket;)


Oh. I expect the heat generated when this thing went to pot while I
was doing about 70-75 melted whatever grease happened to be left in
there.
--

John H


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