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W.T. Hatch September 12th 03 02:02 AM

Sailors and power boaters...
 
I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations, power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."

I know what my observations have been but I wonder what others here might
think.

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch




Wayne.B September 12th 03 02:29 AM

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:02:41 -0700, "W.T. Hatch"
wrote:
I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations, power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."

I know what my observations have been but I wonder what others here might
think.

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All of my old sailboats would lean left or right with equal facility.

If the powerboats start showing biased tendencies, a quick blip with
Mr Bennett's good trim tabs will put them back on an even keel. My
port side (left) engine runs a few degrees hotter however.





Gould 0738 September 12th 03 02:56 AM

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I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations, power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."


As a stinkpotter, (and darn proud of it), I'm sure that most people who know me
would consider me an extreme conservative.

Yup, just me and the Constitution runnin' against the wind. :-)



JR North September 12th 03 03:49 AM

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Yup. Us power boaters, like Republicans, pay our own way,
and don't expect to get home otherwise. Ragbaggers, like
Democrats, are always looking for some thing for nothing,
and just expect to get helped along for free.
JR

Gould 0738 wrote:

I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations, power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."


As a stinkpotter, (and darn proud of it), I'm sure that most people who know me
would consider me an extreme conservative.

Yup, just me and the Constitution runnin' against the wind. :-)


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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

bb September 12th 03 03:59 AM

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:49:04 -0700, JR North
wrote:

Yup. Us power boaters, like Republicans, pay our own way,
and don't expect to get home otherwise.


Don't forget the part about always spewing large amounts of foul
smelling gas out of your orifice.

bb

Don White September 12th 03 04:27 AM

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Oh,oh! Better check your guns before steaming north.

Gould 0738 wrote in message
...
As a stinkpotter, (and darn proud of it), I'm sure that most people who

know me
would consider me an extreme conservative.

Yup, just me and the Constitution runnin' against the wind. :-)





Gfretwell September 12th 03 04:34 AM

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I rigged a sail on my power boat ... damn am I becoming a Democrat?

Are there any pills I can take?

I know, next I will be wanting the government to pay for them. ;-)

Paul September 12th 03 04:35 AM

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Rely on the government = rely on the wind? Interesting thought.

In answer to your question, my experience seems to be the same.




"W.T. Hatch" wrote in message
.. .
I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations,

power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."

I know what my observations have been but I wonder what others here might
think.

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch






JR North September 12th 03 04:43 AM

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At anchor, it's usually the ragbaggers that are paving the
waves with low-flying clouds of smoke from their puky diesel
gens.
JR

bb wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:49:04 -0700, JR North
wrote:

Yup. Us power boaters, like Republicans, pay our own way,
and don't expect to get home otherwise.


Don't forget the part about always spewing large amounts of foul
smelling gas out of your orifice.

bb


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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Joe Parsons September 12th 03 07:00 AM

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 20:43:51 -0700, JR North wrote:

At anchor, it's usually the ragbaggers that are paving the
waves with low-flying clouds of smoke from their puky diesel
gens.


One question, one observation.

Question: do powerboaters not use diesel gensets? And if so, do they not smoke
or puke?

Observation: What do we make of the sailors who, like me, have solar panels to
keep the batteries charged?

Joe Parsons

JR

bb wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:49:04 -0700, JR North
wrote:

Yup. Us power boaters, like Republicans, pay our own way,
and don't expect to get home otherwise.


Don't forget the part about always spewing large amounts of foul
smelling gas out of your orifice.

bb



jps September 12th 03 09:03 AM

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"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...
I rigged a sail on my power boat ... damn am I becoming a Democrat?

Are there any pills I can take?


Stupid pills?



jps September 12th 03 09:04 AM

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"W.T. Hatch" wrote in message
.. .
I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations,

power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."

I know what my observations have been but I wonder what others here might
think.


I'm a stinkpotter and lean to the left. However, I would agree with your
general assessment of the seascape.

jps



Paul September 12th 03 02:07 PM

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Question: do powerboaters not use diesel gensets? And if so, do they not
smoke
or puke?


I would imagine if they have diesel engines they would use diesel gensets.
My friends all use gas and therefore gas gensets. Don't even know when
they're running.

Observation: What do we make of the sailors who, like me, have solar

panels to
keep the batteries charged?


The sun is free. The solar panels on the other hand ...



Joe Parsons September 12th 03 04:41 PM

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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:07:21 GMT, "Paul" wrote:

Question: do powerboaters not use diesel gensets? And if so, do they not

smoke
or puke?


I would imagine if they have diesel engines they would use diesel gensets.
My friends all use gas and therefore gas gensets. Don't even know when
they're running.

Observation: What do we make of the sailors who, like me, have solar

panels to
keep the batteries charged?


The sun is free. The solar panels on the other hand ...


Pricy, indeed--but Mr. North's comment related to the "puky" nature of diesel
gensets.

Joe Parsons



noah September 13th 03 12:17 AM

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:02:41 -0700, "W.T. Hatch"
wrote:

I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations, power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."

I know what my observations have been but I wonder what others here might
think.

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch


Oh Lordy, Lordy!
But, I disagree. Powerboaters are generally testosterone driven,
while sailors are more cerebral.

Politics is secondary between a man and his boat. It's more intimate
than that. :o)

noah

otnmbrd September 13th 03 12:44 AM

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Sometimes, I'm liberally conservative and other times conservatively
liberal, depending on the subject and my frame of mind, but normally,
I'm just "off the wall", or as one instructor in college described me
.....a platonic hedonist .... then again, my daughter says.......(never
mind what my wife says)

otn

noah wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 18:02:41 -0700, "W.T. Hatch"
wrote:


I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations, power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."

I know what my observations have been but I wonder what others here might
think.

Most sincerely,
W.T. Hatch



Oh Lordy, Lordy!
But, I disagree. Powerboaters are generally testosterone driven,
while sailors are more cerebral.

Politics is secondary between a man and his boat. It's more intimate
than that. :o)

noah



noah September 13th 03 01:13 AM

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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 23:44:29 GMT, otnmbrd
wrote:

Sometimes, I'm liberally conservative and other times conservatively
liberal, depending on the subject and my frame of mind, but normally,
I'm just "off the wall", or as one instructor in college described me
....a platonic hedonist .... then again, my daughter says.......(never
mind what my wife says)

otn


LOL! "platonic hedonist"?
It scares me that I think I know what you mean...!
Is that a "passive-aggresive" with a boner? :o)


....sorry. Lord, I apologise.
noah

Dionysus Feldman September 15th 03 02:02 PM

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So what kind of boat would a Libertarian pilot?

FWIW we're starting with a single screw power boat.


jps September 16th 03 07:12 AM

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"Dionysus Feldman" wrote in message
...
So what kind of boat would a Libertarian pilot?

FWIW we're starting with a single screw power boat.



One that didn't require a license, could go fast and use as much gas as you
****ing well pleased or go as slow as you ****ing well please when powered
by a sail.

Does that sound suitable?



Bill Cole September 16th 03 08:28 AM

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I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.


"jps" wrote in message
...
"Dionysus Feldman" wrote in message
...
So what kind of boat would a Libertarian pilot?

FWIW we're starting with a single screw power boat.



One that didn't require a license, could go fast and use as much gas as

you
****ing well pleased or go as slow as you ****ing well please when powered
by a sail.

Does that sound suitable?





Dionysus Feldman September 16th 03 01:27 PM

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Bill Cole--
I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.

df--

Sounds like you feel that it's moral to force people to donate to causes
with which they don't agree -- at gun point.

So far I've refrained from Ad-Hominem attacks -- why haven't you?




jps September 16th 03 03:56 PM

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Buttsniffer.

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
et...
I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with

off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.





Bill Cole September 16th 03 05:39 PM

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df,
I was not making fun of you or libertarians, jps was talking about how
Libertarians are so self centered they don't care about anyone else, and I
was showing him the irony of his making that statement while at the same
time polluting this NG with his OT drivel.

"Dionysus Feldman" wrote in message
...
Bill Cole--
I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with

off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.

df--

Sounds like you feel that it's moral to force people to donate to causes
with which they don't agree -- at gun point.

So far I've refrained from Ad-Hominem attacks -- why haven't you?






Bill Cole September 16th 03 05:40 PM

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lol with a quick witted response like that isn't it time you high 5 Harry?


"jps" wrote in message
...
Buttsniffer.

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
et...
I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with

off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.







LaBomba182 September 16th 03 11:05 PM

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Subject: Sailors and power boaters...
From: "Bill Cole"


I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.


Based on the above drivel, I take it you're a Libertarian.

Capt. Bill

Bill Cole September 16th 03 11:14 PM

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Capt. Bill,
I have just been reading the NG and following the example set by the
regulars. If you don't like the drivel I post, you need to let people know
that it is not acceptable. As long as the majority of regulars like to
clutter the NG with drivel this is what you get.


"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Sailors and power boaters...
From: "Bill Cole"


I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with

off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.


Based on the above drivel, I take it you're a Libertarian.

Capt. Bill




LaBomba182 September 16th 03 11:26 PM

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Subject: Sailors and power boaters...
From: "Bill Cole"


I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.




jps September 16th 03 11:44 PM

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"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Sailors and power boaters...
From: "Bill Cole"


I bet a Libertarian is the kind of idiot who would clutter up a NG with

off
topic drivel scattered with profanity. Most Libertarians are so self
centered they don't think about anyone but themselves.


Based on the above drivel, I take it you're a Libertarian.

Capt. Bill



Bwaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Willie Cole doesn't cotton to humor real well so expect a perfectly serioius
response...



LaBomba182 September 17th 03 12:59 AM

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Subject: Sailors and power boaters...
From: "jps"


Willie Cole doesn't cotton to humor real well so expect a perfectly serioius
response...


You hit the nail:

"Capt. Bill,
I have just been reading the NG and following the example set by the
regulars. If you don't like the drivel I post, you need to let people know
that it is not acceptable. As long as the majority of regulars like to
clutter the NG with drivel this is what you get."

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 September 17th 03 12:59 AM

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Subject: Sailors and power boaters...
From: "Bill Cole"


Capt. Bill,
I have just been reading the NG and following the example set by the
regulars. If you don't like the drivel I post, you need to let people know
that it is not acceptable. As long as the majority of regulars like to
clutter the NG with drivel this is what you get.


Ok, so are you a libertarian or not?

Capt. Bill



Bill Cole September 17th 03 01:49 AM

Sailors and power boaters...
 
Nah, I am a left wing conservative.


"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Sailors and power boaters...
From: "Bill Cole"


Capt. Bill,
I have just been reading the NG and following the example set by the
regulars. If you don't like the drivel I post, you need to let people

know
that it is not acceptable. As long as the majority of regulars like to
clutter the NG with drivel this is what you get.


Ok, so are you a libertarian or not?

Capt. Bill





jps September 17th 03 02:14 AM

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"LaBomba182" wrote in message
...
Subject: Sailors and power boaters...
From: "jps"


Willie Cole doesn't cotton to humor real well so expect a perfectly

serioius
response...


You hit the nail:

"Capt. Bill,
I have just been reading the NG and following the example set by the
regulars. If you don't like the drivel I post, you need to let people

know
that it is not acceptable. As long as the majority of regulars like to
clutter the NG with drivel this is what you get."

Capt. Bill



Most people could use a stick extraction from time to time. In Bill's case
it's more like a log and it'll require an intervention.



Richard Malcolm September 17th 03 03:49 AM

Sailors and power boaters...
 
I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations, power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."

I know what my observations have been but I wonder what others here might
think.


since you asked, I am just the opposite. if there was a tree in the
middle of Buzzards Bay, I would zoom up to it in my stink pot, stop
long enough to hug it and then zoom on.
good luck with your querry

jps September 17th 03 04:39 AM

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"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
I have observed over many years that, were we to make generalisations,

power
boaters tend to identify themselves as more "conservative," whilst

sailors
tend to think of themselves as more "liberal."

I know what my observations have been but I wonder what others here

might
think.


since you asked, I am just the opposite. if there was a tree in the
middle of Buzzards Bay, I would zoom up to it in my stink pot, stop
long enough to hug it and then zoom on.
good luck with your querry


Bravo!



megabite September 17th 03 04:40 AM

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Real, Libertarians would use a Submarine....Never seen in public, somehow,
always making waves.
"Dionysus Feldman" wrote in message
...
So what kind of boat would a Libertarian pilot?

FWIW we're starting with a single screw power boat.




jps September 17th 03 05:05 AM

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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
t...
df,
I was not making fun of you or libertarians, jps was talking about how
Libertarians are so self centered they don't care about anyone else, and I
was showing him the irony of his making that statement while at the same
time polluting this NG with his OT drivel.


I was making a joke of their "libertarian" ways. Bill, if you're going to
make an allowance for humor in your life, you're going to have to consider
that some things aren't meant to be taken literally. I know you have it in
you.

Now, let's take a deep cleansing breath. Good, again. Yes, that's right.
Again. Again. Again.

There, do you feel any better?

Now, read the passage again and realize I had my tongue firmly planted in
my cheek when writing it...






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