Our future is here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...njections.html

Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
Our future is here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...njections.html






And after that, they are going to show up at your house to take you to
the soylent green factory.

Moron.

Gene wrote:
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:38:55 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote:

Our future is here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...njections.html

I trust the Telegraph as much as I trust Michael Moore.


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Tom is a card-carrying birther.

"Captain Marvel of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
Our future is here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...njections.html

Government calls it rationed heath care, although they will never admit it.
You don't think politicially connected live by those rules, it is for the
masses! Once they raise your taxes to 50% and beyond, you can't afford the
alternatives.

Happens in Canada too, their primary purpose is to contain the costs of
services and services become rationed by chair mushrooms you don't know. No
realistic alternative for most. And even with government care, most have
"supplimentry" additional costs as government does cover many things.

Government will use this an excuse to raise taxes, and skim a portion of the
taxes towards GM, banks and other corrupt endeavors and full health care
value will never be seen. The government needs your money and will use
health care against you to raise and sell the idea of increased taxation.

Government has this all figured out.

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:52:01 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 11:38:55 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote:

Our future is here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...njections.html

I trust the Telegraph as much as I trust Michael Moore.

From page 7 of the referenced document:

"Physical activity and exercise
" Consider offering a structured exercise programme tailored to
the person:
This should comprise up to a maximum of eight sessions over a
period of up to 12 weeks.
Offer a group supervised exercise programme, in a group of up
to 10 people.
A one-to-one supervised exercise programme may be offered if a
group programme is not suitable for a particular person.
Manual therapy
" Consider offering a course of manual therapy, including spinal
manipulation, comprising up to a maximum of nine sessions over a
period of up to 12 weeks.
Invasive procedures
" Consider offering a course of acupuncture needling comprising
up to a maximum of 10 sessions over a period of up to 12 weeks.
" Do not offer injections of therapeutic substances into the
back for
non-specific low back pain."

***Note the last sentence. Perhaps you should not be so quick with
your judgement. ***

More at:
http://www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/pdf...delineWord.doc

or,

http://guidance.nice.org.uk/CG88/Nic...ce/pdf/English


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John H

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:30:43 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:32:21 -0400, Infamous John
wrote:


***Note the last sentence. Perhaps you should not be so quick with
your judgement. ***

Even a blind pig gets an acorn once in a while.

The Telegraph is a wingnut publication and needs to be regarded as
such. Ditto KOS.... and I'm sure they get it right once in a while
too, but I'm not going to hold them up as a valid source, either.

Especially since they may not agree with your political views. We've a
couple folks like that here. Harry and jps come to mind.

Shoot the messenger.
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John H

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:28:34 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:08:17 -0400, Drifting John
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:30:43 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:32:21 -0400, Infamous John
wrote:


***Note the last sentence. Perhaps you should not be so quick with
your judgement. ***

Even a blind pig gets an acorn once in a while.

The Telegraph is a wingnut publication and needs to be regarded as
such. Ditto KOS.... and I'm sure they get it right once in a while
too, but I'm not going to hold them up as a valid source, either.

Especially since they may not agree with your political views. We've a
couple folks like that here. Harry and jps come to mind.

Shoot the messenger.

In this case, it is probably OK to at least shoot at the messenger.

The term, "shooting the messenger" was about shooting the messenger
simply because he was bearing unwelcome news. It was always assumed
that this was wrong because the messenger had no agenda and he got
whacked purely because of content.

You must consider the purpose of these news outlets.... they *sell*
news and pander to their audience to do so effectively, some more than
others. IMHO, don't trust ANY of them, but try to listen to all of
them. Then YOU decide what is true. You won't find reality at The
Telegraph or KOS, but with enough information you can make an informed
guess at what *is* the truth.

Pardon me. I was under the impression you'd brushed them off before
becoming at all informed.
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John H

Gene wrote:
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:08:17 -0400, Drifting John
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:30:43 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:32:21 -0400, Infamous John
wrote:


***Note the last sentence. Perhaps you should not be so quick with
your judgement. ***
Even a blind pig gets an acorn once in a while.

The Telegraph is a wingnut publication and needs to be regarded as
such. Ditto KOS.... and I'm sure they get it right once in a while
too, but I'm not going to hold them up as a valid source, either.
Especially since they may not agree with your political views. We've a
couple folks like that here. Harry and jps come to mind.

Shoot the messenger.

In this case, it is probably OK to at least shoot at the messenger.

The term, "shooting the messenger" was about shooting the messenger
simply because he was bearing unwelcome news. It was always assumed
that this was wrong because the messenger had no agenda and he got
whacked purely because of content.

You must consider the purpose of these news outlets.... they *sell*
news and pander to their audience to do so effectively, some more than
others. IMHO, don't trust ANY of them, but try to listen to all of
them. Then YOU decide what is true. You won't find reality at The
Telegraph or KOS, but with enough information you can make an informed
guess at what *is* the truth.

The truth shall **** you off.

copy write 2009 Florida Jim