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JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:39 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:24 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
now let me get this straight. he's complaining about govt healthcare
and extolling the virtures of the free market...
the market that brought you
-bear stearns
-GM
-wachovia
-bank of america
all of these, he thinks, bear witness to the efficiency of the market
and its ability to protect middle class americans.
i guess he doesn't get much news in his section of the woods.
BofA is a Federal caused problem. They are the ones who pressured BofA to
buy a crap brokerage house. And Bear Stearns, GM etc are all long time
deathbed candidates. How about Google, Oracle, and a host of other
successful corporations.
ROFLMAO!! hey genius that's EXACTLY my point. you think the free
market is great when IT JUST CAUSED THE COLLAPSE OF THE ECONOMY!!
and those other companies? guess you don't know they couldn't stop the
market from going from 14000 last year to 9000 today
Barney Frank and Chris Dodd say hi!

In fact Barney Frank just tried to get the banks to "readjust" interest
rates by mortgage holders and it went absolutely nowhere. Congress needs
to stop meddling in the banking industry.
except, of course, it was phil gramm and his wife, a sr. VP at enron,
who wrote the bill deregulating securities. this allowed CDO's to go
from $920B in 1997 to $62 TRILLION in 2007.

and the GOP knew that when the bill came due, the middle class would
pay for it to ensure the rich didn't lose a dollar.
No crap loans from Barney Frank and Chris Dodd no CDOs.
Yeah, now Chris Dodd has been let off the hook by his peers.. Says he
didn't know he got a special deal, yeah right! The guy is a sneaky piece
of ****...

Are there any Republican politicians that you think are sneaky pieces of
****?


Arlen Specter?? Sorry, couldn't help myself. Yes, there is Jack Abramoff
and his republican cronies for starters...

I can name hundreds more for you if you like!
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JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:39 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:24 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
now let me get this straight. he's complaining about govt healthcare
and extolling the virtures of the free market...
the market that brought you
-bear stearns
-GM
-wachovia
-bank of america
all of these, he thinks, bear witness to the efficiency of the market
and its ability to protect middle class americans.
i guess he doesn't get much news in his section of the woods.
BofA is a Federal caused problem. They are the ones who pressured BofA to
buy a crap brokerage house. And Bear Stearns, GM etc are all long time
deathbed candidates. How about Google, Oracle, and a host of other
successful corporations.
ROFLMAO!! hey genius that's EXACTLY my point. you think the free
market is great when IT JUST CAUSED THE COLLAPSE OF THE ECONOMY!!
and those other companies? guess you don't know they couldn't stop the
market from going from 14000 last year to 9000 today
Barney Frank and Chris Dodd say hi!

In fact Barney Frank just tried to get the banks to "readjust" interest
rates by mortgage holders and it went absolutely nowhere. Congress needs
to stop meddling in the banking industry.
except, of course, it was phil gramm and his wife, a sr. VP at enron,
who wrote the bill deregulating securities. this allowed CDO's to go
from $920B in 1997 to $62 TRILLION in 2007.

and the GOP knew that when the bill came due, the middle class would
pay for it to ensure the rich didn't lose a dollar.
No crap loans from Barney Frank and Chris Dodd no CDOs.
Yeah, now Chris Dodd has been let off the hook by his peers.. Says he
didn't know he got a special deal, yeah right! The guy is a sneaky piece
of ****...

Are there any Republican politicians that you think are sneaky pieces of
****?


Cunningham, Frist... ??? Keep these posts handy next time you are
putting me in a box, beer boy !! Hummmm, beer, how's the beer going?
I have a race next week, maybe I shoudld start drinking now


The robust porter is aging as we speak.
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JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:16:52 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:53:54 -0400, Jim numero uno "j i
wrote:

JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:46:16 -0400, Jim numero uno "j i
wrote:

H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:

Pelosi doing over 200 investigations and calling her congress the
"do nothing congress" is what caused the collapse of the economy.
Moron.
I notice you didn't dispute the facts. You moved straight into name
calling. Your usual MO.
I don't "debate" morons, and don't consider their facts "facts." Sorry.
I understand. You are afraid to debate. You are afraid of facts.

Obviously, *you* don't understand, since you couldn't figure out the
uncomplicated sentence I offered you.
Simply put, WAFA. Comprende?
Buenos dias, Numero Uno.
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All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.
Greetings from south of your border, John.
I want to visit that store one day. But, I'm always doing about 77mph
when I go by the exit and don't want to waste the time.

Is it a worthwhile stop?
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All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Talking about south of the border, SC? It is worth the stop only for the
fact that it's the tackiest thing you ever saw!!! So, yes, stop
sometime! Pedro is the mascot, and EVERYTHING is Pedro this, Pedro that!

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2211


Reckon I'll just keep doing my 77mph and wave as I go by.
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All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Oh, it is something to see, like I said, if for nothing more than to see
just how tacky things can get!
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JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:07 -0400, NotNow wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:23:33 -0400, NotNow wrote:

First, the bull**** about killing off the elderly.

On former Sen. Fred Thompson’s radio show, former lieutenant governor of
New York Betsy McCaughey said that the House’s proposed health care bill
contained a provision that would institute mandatory counseling sessions
telling seniors how "to do what’s in society’s best interest … and cut
your life short." House Minority Leader John Boehner made a slightly
more measured statement, warning that the same provision "may start us
down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if
enacted into law."
Geez, you would think the Republicans would get on the same page. The
"Death Panel" was an amendment put in by a pro-life Republican, from your
state by the way. And, it makes sense.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...ct-a-pro-life-
republican-from-georgia.html

Actually, there are more and more Republicans every day who are getting
fed up with the lies coming from the right concerning Obama's healthcare
plan.


It would be nice if Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc. would stop telling all
the damn lies. Then all the Republicans (and lots of Democrats)
wouldn't be getting so fed up.
--
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All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


The lies about the healthcare issue is coming from the righteous right.

http://www.factcheck.org/

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On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:28:30 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:07 -0400, NotNow wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:23:33 -0400, NotNow wrote:

First, the bull**** about killing off the elderly.

On former Sen. Fred Thompson’s radio show, former lieutenant governor of
New York Betsy McCaughey said that the House’s proposed health care bill
contained a provision that would institute mandatory counseling sessions
telling seniors how "to do what’s in society’s best interest … and cut
your life short." House Minority Leader John Boehner made a slightly
more measured statement, warning that the same provision "may start us
down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if
enacted into law."
Geez, you would think the Republicans would get on the same page. The
"Death Panel" was an amendment put in by a pro-life Republican, from your
state by the way. And, it makes sense.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...ct-a-pro-life-
republican-from-georgia.html
Actually, there are more and more Republicans every day who are getting
fed up with the lies coming from the right concerning Obama's healthcare
plan.


It would be nice if Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc. would stop telling all
the damn lies. Then all the Republicans (and lots of Democrats)
wouldn't be getting so fed up.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


The lies about the healthcare issue is coming from the righteous right.

http://www.factcheck.org/


Nope. You're wrong. There may have been some slight exagerations, but
no lies.

The comments made by the right are based on the bill itself. How often
do you see the 'rebuttals' quoting the bill? They are simply adding
more bull**** to the fire.

When Obama says he doesn't want a single payer health plan, he is
telling a lie.

'Nuff said.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


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In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 10:39 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:24 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
now let me get this straight. he's complaining about govt healthcare
and extolling the virtures of the free market...
the market that brought you
-bear stearns
-GM
-wachovia
-bank of america
all of these, he thinks, bear witness to the efficiency of the market
and its ability to protect middle class americans.
i guess he doesn't get much news in his section of the woods.
BofA is a Federal caused problem. They are the ones who pressured BofA to
buy a crap brokerage house. And Bear Stearns, GM etc are all long time
deathbed candidates. How about Google, Oracle, and a host of other
successful corporations.
ROFLMAO!! hey genius that's EXACTLY my point. you think the free
market is great when IT JUST CAUSED THE COLLAPSE OF THE ECONOMY!!
and those other companies? guess you don't know they couldn't stop the
market from going from 14000 last year to 9000 today
Barney Frank and Chris Dodd say hi!

In fact Barney Frank just tried to get the banks to "readjust" interest
rates by mortgage holders and it went absolutely nowhere. Congress needs
to stop meddling in the banking industry.
except, of course, it was phil gramm and his wife, a sr. VP at enron,
who wrote the bill deregulating securities. this allowed CDO's to go
from $920B in 1997 to $62 TRILLION in 2007.

and the GOP knew that when the bill came due, the middle class would
pay for it to ensure the rich didn't lose a dollar.
No crap loans from Barney Frank and Chris Dodd no CDOs.
Yeah, now Chris Dodd has been let off the hook by his peers.. Says he
didn't know he got a special deal, yeah right! The guy is a sneaky piece
of ****...

Are there any Republican politicians that you think are sneaky pieces of
****?


Arlen Specter?? Sorry, couldn't help myself. Yes, there is Jack Abramoff
and his republican cronies for starters...

I can name hundreds more for you if you like!


What? I answered your question... my turn..

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On Aug 14, 10:46*am, JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...





JustWait wrote:
In article 790f68d9-d57f-408e-8102-03275f5fe814
@f33g2000vbm.googlegroups.com, says...
On Aug 13, 5:24 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message


now let me get this straight. he's complaining about govt healthcare
and extolling the virtures of the free market...


the market that brought you


-bear stearns
-GM
-wachovia
-bank of america


all of these, he thinks, bear witness to the efficiency of the market
and its ability to protect middle class americans.


i guess he doesn't get much news in his section of the woods.


BofA is a Federal caused problem. *They are the ones who pressured BofA to
buy a crap brokerage house. *And Bear Stearns, GM etc are all long time
deathbed candidates. *How about Google, Oracle, and a host of other
successful corporations.
ROFLMAO!! hey genius that's EXACTLY my point. you think the free
market is great when IT JUST CAUSED THE COLLAPSE OF THE ECONOMY!!


and those other companies? guess you don't know they couldn't stop the
market from going from 14000 last year to 9000 today


you need to start reading the news.


Pelosi doing over 200 investigations and calling her congress the "do
nothing congress" is what caused the collapse of the economy. If she had
not broken her campaign promise and let gas go to $4.00 a gallon, and
helped the Bush Admin reign in the Fannie Freddie syndicate, we would
not have fallen off of the edge. You can blame the three highest
recipients of fannie and freddie lobby money over a ten year period.
Chris Dodd, Barak Obama, and John Kerry.. And remember, Obama was only
there for the last two years.. How much do you think he got to be in the
number two spot against Dodd, and Kerry and a ten year run?


Let's see, an excuse for everything for the right wing, then blame it
all on the liberals...... SO typical.


But I do blame it on the housing crisis, which was partially caused or
at least exaggerate by the huge gas hike after Pelosi took over congress
and refused to let the administration do almost anything.


guess the sixty two trillion dollars in CDO's by the GOP was a minor
point, right? the fact that the amount of CDO's was larger than the
GDP of the entire planet...to you that's of no consequence

what an idiot
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BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:

Pelosi doing over 200 investigations and calling her congress the "do
nothing congress" is what caused the collapse of the economy.


Moron.


I notice you didn't dispute the facts. You moved straight into name
calling. Your usual MO.


Fight or flight response. His narcissism offered him nothing else.
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JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:28:30 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:07 -0400, NotNow wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:23:33 -0400, NotNow wrote:

First, the bull**** about killing off the elderly.

On former Sen. Fred Thompson’s radio show, former lieutenant governor of
New York Betsy McCaughey said that the House’s proposed health care bill
contained a provision that would institute mandatory counseling sessions
telling seniors how "to do what’s in society’s best interest … and cut
your life short." House Minority Leader John Boehner made a slightly
more measured statement, warning that the same provision "may start us
down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if
enacted into law."
Geez, you would think the Republicans would get on the same page. The
"Death Panel" was an amendment put in by a pro-life Republican, from your
state by the way. And, it makes sense.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...ct-a-pro-life-
republican-from-georgia.html
Actually, there are more and more Republicans every day who are getting
fed up with the lies coming from the right concerning Obama's healthcare
plan.
It would be nice if Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc. would stop telling all
the damn lies. Then all the Republicans (and lots of Democrats)
wouldn't be getting so fed up.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

The lies about the healthcare issue is coming from the righteous right.

http://www.factcheck.org/


Nope. You're wrong. There may have been some slight exagerations, but
no lies.

The comments made by the right are based on the bill itself. How often
do you see the 'rebuttals' quoting the bill? They are simply adding
more bull**** to the fire.

When Obama says he doesn't want a single payer health plan, he is
telling a lie.

'Nuff said.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


You don't think THIS is a lie?????

Chain e-mail: "On Page 425 of Obama’s health care bill, the Federal
Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a
counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will
explain to them just how to end their own life earlier. Yes…They are
going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!!!"

Page 425 does deal with counseling sessions for seniors, but it is far
from recommending a "Logan’s Run" approach to Medicare spending. In
fact, it requires Medicare to cover counseling sessions for seniors who
want to consider their end-of-life choices – including whether they want
to refuse or, conversely, require certain types of care. The claim that
the bill would "push suicide" is a falsehood.
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In article ,
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JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:28:30 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JLH LXV wrote:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 10:08:07 -0400, NotNow wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:23:33 -0400, NotNow wrote:

First, the bull**** about killing off the elderly.

On former Sen. Fred Thompson?s radio show, former lieutenant governor of
New York Betsy McCaughey said that the House?s proposed health care bill
contained a provision that would institute mandatory counseling sessions
telling seniors how "to do what?s in society?s best interest ? and cut
your life short." House Minority Leader John Boehner made a slightly
more measured statement, warning that the same provision "may start us
down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if
enacted into law."
Geez, you would think the Republicans would get on the same page. The
"Death Panel" was an amendment put in by a pro-life Republican, from your
state by the way. And, it makes sense.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/...ct-a-pro-life-
republican-from-georgia.html
Actually, there are more and more Republicans every day who are getting
fed up with the lies coming from the right concerning Obama's healthcare
plan.
It would be nice if Obama, Pelosi, Reid, etc. would stop telling all
the damn lies. Then all the Republicans (and lots of Democrats)
wouldn't be getting so fed up.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.
The lies about the healthcare issue is coming from the righteous right..

http://www.factcheck.org/


Nope. You're wrong. There may have been some slight exagerations, but
no lies.

The comments made by the right are based on the bill itself. How often
do you see the 'rebuttals' quoting the bill? They are simply adding
more bull**** to the fire.

When Obama says he doesn't want a single payer health plan, he is
telling a lie.

'Nuff said.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.


You don't think THIS is a lie?????

Chain e-mail: "On Page 425 of Obama?s health care bill, the Federal
Government will require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a
counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will
explain to them just how to end their own life earlier. Yes?They are
going to push SUICIDE to cut medicare spending!!!"

Page 425 does deal with counseling sessions for seniors, but it is far
from recommending a "Logan?s Run" approach to Medicare spending. In
fact, it requires Medicare to cover counseling sessions for seniors who
want to consider their end-of-life choices ? including whether they want
to refuse or, conversely, require certain types of care. The claim that
the bill would "push suicide" is a falsehood.


The model is already being set in Oregon. A man whit Hepatitis was
turned down for treatment but sent a letter suggesting that the state
would help him pay for "end of life" meds to end well, his life... That
is not a lie, it is an example of how far left medical coverage works...

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