JustWait wrote:


Nope, Armitage outed the agent to Novak. At least read a little before
spewing out. You are the one who want's to assure that nobody is called
guilty until convicted, but I guess when it comes to repubs you can call
them "traitor who outed a CIA agent" because he is a republican, even
though he got convicted of providing false information, that's all. Now
if you want to convict someone of outing CIA agents, let's have an
investigation into the recent activity by the ACLU following real covert
agents home, photographing them and their families, and showing them to
prisoners and admitted AlQueda agents at Gitmo. And before you deflect,
please go to their page and read the admission in their own words. OJ is
innocent even though he was found responsible in court, but Scooter is
guilty of "treason" even though he didn't get convicted of anything near
that.. Man, your double standard showing...



Moron.

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in
the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.

You folks are simply amazing.


How so? These are facts.

Never mind.

So 7 is ok.. I will be sure to teach my kids that...snerk Here we are
and all along I thought one was bad...

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Wafa free since 2009


I don't believe he said that 7 was ok. He said that the comparision is
remarkable.

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Nom=de=Plume

"John H." wrote in message
...
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.

Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.


I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:25:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.

Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.


I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.

Call it what you will. It is what it is.

"Bush screwed up, therefore Obama's screwups are OK."

Give me a break.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:


Nope, Armitage outed the agent to Novak. At least read a little before
spewing out. You are the one who want's to assure that nobody is
called guilty until convicted, but I guess when it comes to repubs you
can call them "traitor who outed a CIA agent" because he is a
republican, even though he got convicted of providing false
information, that's all. Now if you want to convict someone of outing
CIA agents, let's have an investigation into the recent activity by
the ACLU following real covert agents home, photographing them and
their families, and showing them to prisoners and admitted AlQueda
agents at Gitmo. And before you deflect, please go to their page and
read the admission in their own words. OJ is innocent even though he
was found responsible in court, but Scooter is guilty of "treason"
even though he didn't get convicted of anything near that.. Man, your
double standard showing...



Moron.

That's your opinion. And, of course, we know how worthless your opinions
and positions are.

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:25:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.
Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.

I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.

Call it what you will. It is what it is.

"Bush screwed up, therefore Obama's screwups are OK."

Give me a break.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
Just think, a year ago, it was Clinton screwed up, therefore Bush's
screwups are OK.

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:15:49 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:25:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.
Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.

I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.

Call it what you will. It is what it is.

"Bush screwed up, therefore Obama's screwups are OK."

Give me a break.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
Just think, a year ago, it was Clinton screwed up, therefore Bush's
screwups are OK.

Bush's screwup were never OK. Get your head out of the sand.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

In article ,
says...

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:25:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.
Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.

I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.

Call it what you will. It is what it is.

"Bush screwed up, therefore Obama's screwups are OK."

Give me a break.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
Just think, a year ago, it was Clinton screwed up, therefore Bush's
screwups are OK.

Bull****... Just plain bull****...

--
Wafa free since 2009

nom=de=plume wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message
...
Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/
So, a few little lies here and there shouldn't taint a mans status?..
Tell me again why Scooter Libby went to jail again for forgetting one
date, years earlier? Double standard...


In the scheme of things, I'm impressed with Obama's work and follow-through.

FYI, Scooter didn't spend a day in jail. Convicted and walking around to
this day. What he did was treason in my and others' opinion. Cheney was
probably at the center of it. Even Bush couldn't stomach actually pardoning
Scooter, for which I give his $0.01 credit.


Go back and check the facts of that whole episode and you will find that
no crime was committed. Libby was caught in a purgery trap due to his
own arrogance and hubris.

In article ,
says...

nom=de=plume wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message
...
Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/
So, a few little lies here and there shouldn't taint a mans status?..
Tell me again why Scooter Libby went to jail again for forgetting one
date, years earlier? Double standard...


In the scheme of things, I'm impressed with Obama's work and follow-through.

FYI, Scooter didn't spend a day in jail. Convicted and walking around to
this day. What he did was treason in my and others' opinion. Cheney was
probably at the center of it. Even Bush couldn't stomach actually pardoning
Scooter, for which I give his $0.01 credit.


Go back and check the facts of that whole episode and you will find that
no crime was committed. Libby was caught in a purgery trap due to his
own arrogance and hubris.

double standard... not worth addressing...

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Wafa free since 2009