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![]() "Gene" wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:04:49 -0400, John H. wrote: On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:40:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... And that doesn't take into account the loss of revenue for the aftermarket parts and repair industry that just lost those potential 700,000 vehicles to the junkyard. Nor the energy savings of recycling those parts through the re-manufacturing industry And, it doesn't take into account the improvement to the atmosphere, small though it is (if you really want a big improvement, severely restrict beef sales), nor the improvement, also relatively small in the viability of the auto manufacturers nor putting the breaks on a worsening job market. Hate to break it to you, but most of the usable parts of the clunkers were salvaged before the shredding. There was some loss to the secondary car sales market, since they were removed from the mix. Until you liberals get serious about nuclear energy, your 'improvement to the atmosphere' comments are little more than humorous politics. Nuclear energy sucks. It is dirty, dangerous, and expensive. I pay 30% more for the electricity running through this laptop sitting while I'm sitting on this couch, than I do at my other home which is served by a coal plant. Once or twice a year, they remind me that I have to drive by the melting reactor building to get away, if there ever is a serious event. That makes my family safe, huh? What the HELL do we do with all of that spent fuel? It is ACCUMULATING AT THE REACTOR COMPLEXES now, since no state wants it transported down their roads or stored within their borders. When will the bill come due and who will pay for the final disposal of that stuff? I'd be all for it, if we could overcome the shortcomings, but at this writing it just sucks. -- The Pollyanna twins...Kevin & JohnnyPrepH think nuclear power is as safe as going to Sunday mass. Maybe they should sit on one of the spent rods for a bit to see if it can power up their brains. |
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Don White wrote:
"Gene" wrote in message ... On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 07:04:49 -0400, John H. wrote: On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:40:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... And that doesn't take into account the loss of revenue for the aftermarket parts and repair industry that just lost those potential 700,000 vehicles to the junkyard. Nor the energy savings of recycling those parts through the re-manufacturing industry And, it doesn't take into account the improvement to the atmosphere, small though it is (if you really want a big improvement, severely restrict beef sales), nor the improvement, also relatively small in the viability of the auto manufacturers nor putting the breaks on a worsening job market. Hate to break it to you, but most of the usable parts of the clunkers were salvaged before the shredding. There was some loss to the secondary car sales market, since they were removed from the mix. Until you liberals get serious about nuclear energy, your 'improvement to the atmosphere' comments are little more than humorous politics. Nuclear energy sucks. It is dirty, dangerous, and expensive. I pay 30% more for the electricity running through this laptop sitting while I'm sitting on this couch, than I do at my other home which is served by a coal plant. Once or twice a year, they remind me that I have to drive by the melting reactor building to get away, if there ever is a serious event. That makes my family safe, huh? What the HELL do we do with all of that spent fuel? It is ACCUMULATING AT THE REACTOR COMPLEXES now, since no state wants it transported down their roads or stored within their borders. When will the bill come due and who will pay for the final disposal of that stuff? I'd be all for it, if we could overcome the shortcomings, but at this writing it just sucks. -- The Pollyanna twins...Kevin & JohnnyPrepH think nuclear power is as safe as going to Sunday mass. Maybe they should sit on one of the spent rods for a bit to see if it can power up their brains. Damn! Why didn't I think of that! The "deathers" are going to visit herring soon, and tattoo a Do Not Resuscitate label on his foot. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther Idiots All |
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"John H." wrote in message
... On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:41:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... That's Obomath. This bunch of morons we have for an administration do well to breath on their own. As opposed to the previous administration, a bunch of lying thieves, who spent our treasure and blood like drunken sailors on shore leave. That is a great example of 'Bush Rationale'. Bush spent a lot of money, so it's OK for 'Bama to waste four times as much. You guys are something else. I reject that argument. It's just another label. The point is that the money Obama is spending for the economic recovery (the nearly failed economy being easily laid at Bush's door) and has so far been shown not to be a waste. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Jim" wrote in message
... "Waste" implys that bama can account for the money he so frivolously throws around. Most of the bailout money just vaporized into thin air. Does anyone know where all that automaker bailout money? Even more difficult to trace is the financial industry bailout. I wonder if those executives ever got their bonuses. The clunker program hasn't done so well either. Mis management of the program has left the dealers holding the empty bag. Hopefully they will eventually get paid. Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"John H." wrote in message
... And, it doesn't take into account the improvement to the atmosphere, small though it is (if you really want a big improvement, severely restrict beef sales), nor the improvement, also relatively small in the viability of the auto manufacturers nor putting the breaks on a worsening job market. Hate to break it to you, but most of the usable parts of the clunkers were salvaged before the shredding. There was some loss to the secondary car sales market, since they were removed from the mix. Until you liberals get serious about nuclear energy, your 'improvement to the atmosphere' comments are little more than humorous politics. It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes years to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem. When are you going to get serious about the actual problems. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"John H." wrote in message
... How have the stupid, friggin' French managed to do so well, Gene? Perhaps you should do a little reading on the new technology available for dealing with nuclear waste. I guess you forgot about the right's deepseated hatred for all things French. Got any fries? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:33:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Jim" wrote in message . .. "Waste" implys that bama can account for the money he so frivolously throws around. Most of the bailout money just vaporized into thin air. Does anyone know where all that automaker bailout money? Even more difficult to trace is the financial industry bailout. I wonder if those executives ever got their bonuses. The clunker program hasn't done so well either. Mis management of the program has left the dealers holding the empty bag. Hopefully they will eventually get paid. Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too? You skipped the main point. 'Bama is wasting money as fast as he can. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:35:10 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . And, it doesn't take into account the improvement to the atmosphere, small though it is (if you really want a big improvement, severely restrict beef sales), nor the improvement, also relatively small in the viability of the auto manufacturers nor putting the breaks on a worsening job market. Hate to break it to you, but most of the usable parts of the clunkers were salvaged before the shredding. There was some loss to the secondary car sales market, since they were removed from the mix. Until you liberals get serious about nuclear energy, your 'improvement to the atmosphere' comments are little more than humorous politics. It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes years to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem. Liberals have been saying that for years. Go read up on the new technology for dealing with nuclear waste. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318688,00.html Yeah, it came from Fox News, but you wouldn't expect the liberal media to mention it, would you? When are you going to get serious about the actual problems. When Florida is inundated because liberals don't want to solve problems. If they did, we wouldn't have these situations: City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level 1. Detroit, MI 32.5% 2. Buffalo, NY 29..9% 3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8% 4. Cleveland, OH 27.0% 5. Miami, FL 26.9% 5. St. Louis, MO 26.8% 7. El Paso, TX 26.4% 8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2% 9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1% 10. Newark, NJ 24.2% U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007 What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common? Democrat mayors. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:32:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:41:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... That's Obomath. This bunch of morons we have for an administration do well to breath on their own. As opposed to the previous administration, a bunch of lying thieves, who spent our treasure and blood like drunken sailors on shore leave. That is a great example of 'Bush Rationale'. Bush spent a lot of money, so it's OK for 'Bama to waste four times as much. You guys are something else. I reject that argument. It's just another label. The point is that the money Obama is spending for the economic recovery (the nearly failed economy being easily laid at Bush's door) and has so far been shown not to be a waste. Reject away. You attempted to justify 'Bama's acts by comparing him to Bush. The failed economy is easily laid at the door of Chris and Barney. But... -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:36:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . How have the stupid, friggin' French managed to do so well, Gene? Perhaps you should do a little reading on the new technology available for dealing with nuclear waste. I guess you forgot about the right's deepseated hatred for all things French. Got any fries? Nope, not all things. I like their sensibility about the use of nuclear power, and I like many of the works by Michel Delacroix. Croissants fresh from the campsite owner's oven were a real treat. Paying over $10 for two cokes at Sacré-Coeur Basilica was hard to take. But, the kids were thirsty. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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