nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
"Waste" implys that bama can account for the money he so frivolously
throws around. Most of the bailout money just vaporized into thin air.
Does anyone know where all that automaker bailout money? Even more
difficult to trace is the financial industry bailout. I wonder if those
executives ever got their bonuses. The clunker program hasn't done so well
either. Mis management of the program has left the dealers holding the
empty bag. Hopefully they will eventually get paid.


Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's
administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too?

Why didn't bama learn from Bushes mistake and demand some accountability
instead of making the same mistake again?

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:35:10 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
And, it doesn't take into account the improvement to the atmosphere, small
though it is (if you really want a big improvement, severely restrict beef
sales), nor the improvement, also relatively small in the viability of the
auto manufacturers nor putting the breaks on a worsening job market.

Hate to break it to you, but most of the usable parts of the clunkers were
salvaged before the shredding. There was some loss to the secondary car
sales market, since they were removed from the mix.
Until you liberals get serious about nuclear energy, your 'improvement
to the atmosphere' comments are little more than humorous politics.

It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes years
to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem.

Liberals have been saying that for years. Go read up on the new
technology for dealing with nuclear waste.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318688,00.html
Yeah, it came from Fox News, but you wouldn't expect the liberal media
to mention it, would you?

When are you going to get serious about the actual problems.

When Florida is inundated because liberals don't want to solve
problems. If they did, we wouldn't have these situations:

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit, MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo, NY 29..9%
3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%
5. Miami, FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis, MO 26.8%
7. El Paso, TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%
10. Newark, NJ 24.2%
U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty
rate all have in common? Democrat mayors.


The po folk just love those liberal cities and states. They come from
far and wide to find some teat to suck on.

nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
And, it doesn't take into account the improvement to the atmosphere, small
though it is (if you really want a big improvement, severely restrict beef
sales), nor the improvement, also relatively small in the viability of the
auto manufacturers nor putting the breaks on a worsening job market.

Hate to break it to you, but most of the usable parts of the clunkers were
salvaged before the shredding. There was some loss to the secondary car
sales market, since they were removed from the mix.
Until you liberals get serious about nuclear energy, your 'improvement
to the atmosphere' comments are little more than humorous politics.


It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes years
to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem.

Every day you delay the building of nuclear plants is another day the
citizens of the USA are sending money overseas for energy or burning
coal and oil.

When are you going to get serious about the actual problems.

When are you going to stop talking about the problem and start taking
action.

"John H." wrote in message
...
Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's
administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too?

You skipped the main point. 'Bama is wasting money as fast as he can.

--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


You missed the main point. It's been shown to have worked, and it's
continuing to help.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
"Waste" implys that bama can account for the money he so frivolously
throws around. Most of the bailout money just vaporized into thin air.
Does anyone know where all that automaker bailout money? Even more
difficult to trace is the financial industry bailout. I wonder if those
executives ever got their bonuses. The clunker program hasn't done so
well either. Mis management of the program has left the dealers holding
the empty bag. Hopefully they will eventually get paid.


Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's
administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too?

Why didn't bama learn from Bushes mistake and demand some accountability
instead of making the same mistake again?


Having trouble spelling? It's "O"bama. There's much more accountability in
the more recent bailouts.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"John H." wrote in message
...
I reject that argument. It's just another label. The point is that the
money
Obama is spending for the economic recovery (the nearly failed economy
being
easily laid at Bush's door) and has so far been shown not to be a waste.

Reject away. You attempted to justify 'Bama's acts by comparing him to
Bush. The failed economy is easily laid at the door of Chris and
Barney. But...


So, now you're blaming Frank and Dodd? I thought is was Obama's fault.

Pot, kettle, black.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:36:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
How have the stupid, friggin' French managed to do so well, Gene?
Perhaps you should do a little reading on the new technology available
for dealing with nuclear waste.


I guess you forgot about the right's deepseated hatred for all things
French. Got any fries?

Nope, not all things. I like their sensibility about the use of
nuclear power, and I like many of the works by Michel Delacroix.
Croissants fresh from the campsite owner's oven were a real treat.
Paying over $10 for two cokes at Sacré-Coeur Basilica was hard to
take. But, the kids were thirsty.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


So, the Freedom Fries were just an left-wing plot to confuse us?

--
Nom=de=Plume

"John H." wrote in message
news
It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes
years
to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem.

Liberals have been saying that for years. Go read up on the new
technology for dealing with nuclear waste.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318688,00.html
Yeah, it came from Fox News, but you wouldn't expect the liberal media
to mention it, would you?

Hmmm.... a tool of the Heritage Foundation. No mention of that in the
article. As to the merits of reprocessing, if it can be done safely, I'm all
for it.

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty
rate all have in common? Democrat mayors.


Sure is easy for you to morph from nuclear power to city's poor. Another
tactic to distract from the facts?

--
Nom=de=Plume

"BAR" wrote in message
...
It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes
years to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem.

Every day you delay the building of nuclear plants is another day the
citizens of the USA are sending money overseas for energy or burning coal
and oil.

True enough.


When are you going to get serious about the actual problems.

When are you going to stop talking about the problem and start taking
action.

The real solution is to stop eating so much meat. That would have an
immediate and positive effect. The other things take years.

--
Nom=de=Plume

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
"Waste" implys that bama can account for the money he so frivolously
throws around. Most of the bailout money just vaporized into thin air.
Does anyone know where all that automaker bailout money? Even more
difficult to trace is the financial industry bailout. I wonder if those
executives ever got their bonuses. The clunker program hasn't done so
well either. Mis management of the program has left the dealers holding
the empty bag. Hopefully they will eventually get paid.

Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's
administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too?

Why didn't bama learn from Bushes mistake and demand some accountability
instead of making the same mistake again?


Having trouble spelling? It's "O"bama. There's much more accountability in
the more recent bailouts.

Maybe he's starting to catch on. Let's "hope" so. I still think he's
throwing gobs of money into the air and "hopes" it lands in the right
places. "Change" is a comin. Lets "hope" it doesn't trample us all when
it does.