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... On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 21:31:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I originally typed "Obama" but I didn't want to keep slamming a guy who is basically a puppet for the people who put him in office. You notice he has backed off of all of his "change" rhetoric since his Jimmy Carter moment (roughly defined as the day he realized the president is largely a ceremonial office) Gore has their ear and is the high priest in the carbon tax crusade. That cult has taken over the left. How do you come to the conclusion that Obama is a puppet? The majority of Americans put him in office and by a wide margin in the electoral college. Every president since Nixon was a puppet of the monied people who put him in office. It is getting worse each cycle. Well, in that sense ok. Nobody comes up with a billion dollars without owing a lot of allegiance to a lot of rich people. You also have party pressures. That is what knocked down all of Carter's lofty goals. I only bring him up as an example of an "outside the beltway" guy who came to town promising to change the way government worked. He was ground up and reduced to a gray paste in 3 months, much like Mr Obama. The jury is still out with Obama. I hope it won't happen. We need it not to happen. I guess it's got to be someone's fault, so Gore is it Gore is the spiritual leader of the carbon tax cult, no more, no less. In that regard he is the democratic equivalent of Jerry Falwell or Rick Warren who also were not government officials but had a lot of influence on Bush's policies and controlled a lot of votes. I'm unconvinced by either those groups... carbon tax vs. cap and trade. I should read more about it. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"JustWait" wrote in message ... I accurately laid it at Bush's door. Believe what you want! You and your friends here seem to think that racism is funny or can be dismissed as such. Comments like this are, unfortunately, typical of those who would rather create fear and mistrust vs. have an intelligent discussion of the important issues. Liberals have been crying racist any time 'Bama gets criticized. You've just joined the crowd. Racist, my ass. Really. It's a bunch of bull****, but it does seem to kindle flames, just as it is meant to do... When are minority Americans going to figure out the only folks that seem to see race in everything is the Dem leadership... It's just another deflection... Good grief. You're actually going to deny that the Republican leadership (Rush, Beck, etc.) are not racists? Those guys are republican party leaders? Now that's news. |
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wrote in message ... On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:41:14 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Hate to tell you, but the first bank bailout happened during Bush's administration. Are you going to blame the president for that too? ... and the bank deregulation that allowed it happened on Clinton's watch with virtually unanimous congressional support (4 nay votes in the house, 2 D, 2 R, 100% support in the senate) There is plenty of blame to go around. I agree! But, there are some that only want to blame Obama or Bush. Instead of blame, how about looking at the facts, what happened, and how to fix it? Nahhh... too straightforward. The only real "fix" is to rebuild American industry and start making things here again instead of just creating "prosperity" on paper. That may bump into the carbon tax problem. China is building new coal plants at a rate of 2 a week to fuel their factories. If we can't find a way of coming up with the energy to compete with that in some acceptable and economically feasible way we will never dig our way out of this hole. I agree. We certainly have the brains. We absolutely need to address the global implications of China's plants. Doing something by ourselves (talking greenhouse gases) isn't the ultimate solution. It needs to be a global effort. We have (and will have more) influence around the world. We need to use our influence and power for good. Our "power" is diminishing rapidly. The country is broke and nearly broken. The first thing we need to do is to repeal the all of the entitlements at the federal level and tell those who receive them that they are going to have to take on for the team again. |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message ... I accurately laid it at Bush's door. Believe what you want! You and your friends here seem to think that racism is funny or can be dismissed as such. Comments like this are, unfortunately, typical of those who would rather create fear and mistrust vs. have an intelligent discussion of the important issues. Liberals have been crying racist any time 'Bama gets criticized. You've just joined the crowd. Racist, my ass. Really. It's a bunch of bull****, but it does seem to kindle flames, just as it is meant to do... When are minority Americans going to figure out the only folks that seem to see race in everything is the Dem leadership... It's just another deflection... Good grief. You're actually going to deny that the Republican leadership (Rush, Beck, etc.) are not racists. Cooper, Maddow and Eifil are Democrat leadership? |
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![]() "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... Got his from a blog at http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2331218/posts Hard to argue with the math: "Here's some math from your stories that the average clunker got 15 mpg and the average replacement gets 25. · A vehicle at 15 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 800 gallons a year of gasoline. · A vehicle at 25 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 480 gallons a year. · So, an average clunker transaction reduces U.S. gasoline consumption by 320 gallons per year. · The total is about 700,000 vehicles - so that's 224 million gallons / year. · That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil. · 5 million barrels of oil is about ¼ of one day's U.S. consumption. · And, 5 million barrels of oil costs about $350 million dollars at $75/bbl. · So, we all contributed to spending $3 billion to save $350 million. How good a deal was that???" And that doesn't take into account the loss of revenue for the aftermarket parts and repair industry that just lost those potential 700,000 vehicles to the junkyard. Nor the energy savings of recycling those parts through the re-manufacturing industry To bribe the voters. Obama knows his policies are not working and political support is dicipating, so he bribes those he can with our money. Or should I say our credit-debt? Obama is destined to be the biggest debt increase of any government leader in the history of the world. It will takes decades, perhaps generations to recover from. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
... I agree. We certainly have the brains. We absolutely need to address the global implications of China's plants. Doing something by ourselves (talking greenhouse gases) isn't the ultimate solution. It needs to be a global effort. We have (and will have more) influence around the world. We need to use our influence and power for good. Our "power" is diminishing rapidly. The country is broke and nearly broken. The first thing we need to do is to repeal the all of the entitlements at the federal level and tell those who receive them that they are going to have to take on for the team again. Yeah, screw the poor created by the mis-notion of free market capitalism. What would Jesus do? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Jim" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: "JustWait" wrote in message ... I accurately laid it at Bush's door. Believe what you want! You and your friends here seem to think that racism is funny or can be dismissed as such. Comments like this are, unfortunately, typical of those who would rather create fear and mistrust vs. have an intelligent discussion of the important issues. Liberals have been crying racist any time 'Bama gets criticized. You've just joined the crowd. Racist, my ass. Really. It's a bunch of bull****, but it does seem to kindle flames, just as it is meant to do... When are minority Americans going to figure out the only folks that seem to see race in everything is the Dem leadership... It's just another deflection... Good grief. You're actually going to deny that the Republican leadership (Rush, Beck, etc.) are not racists? Those guys are republican party leaders? Now that's news. Not really. Please name an actual leader who isn't kowtowing to them. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"JustWait" wrote in message
... Good grief. You're actually going to deny that the Republican leadership (Rush, Beck, etc.) are not racists? Those guys are republican party leaders? Now that's news. Yeah, and both do more for minorities than Jessi Jackass and Charlie Rangle combined, they just don't talk much about it. Dems call them "racist" because that is the worst insult they can think of for someone who doesn't toe the party line. They would turn on Obama and call him racist if he didn't line up too. It's kind of funny to hear it coming from Dems all the time though, they being the ones who are creating most of the racial divides to maintain power over the block votes... How that's funny! I thought I saw Rush and Beck at an NAACP meeting last week. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"BAR" wrote in message
... Good grief. You're actually going to deny that the Republican leadership (Rush, Beck, etc.) are not racists. Cooper, Maddow and Eifil are Democrat leadership? Umm... now if you had said Obama, Reid, Pelosi and perhaps a couple of others in Congress, I'd agree. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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