"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 10:58 pm, Wilson Woods wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:12:00 -0700, Wilson Woods
wrote:

In 1964, when Republicans objected to the Civil Rights Act because it
would lead to quotas, Hubert Humphrey notoriously said he would "start
eating the pages one after another, because [language mandating quotas]
is not in there." Of course, it didn't matter that the language wasn't
in there - the act *DID* lead to quotas.

There is no language in any funding bill for public education in any
state that explicitly provides for providing public schooling to
illegal
aliens, but we now have a regime that *mandates* providing public
schooling to illegal aliens.

Why would any serious person think the same thing won't happen with
health care for illegal aliens under Obamacare legislation? Of *course*
it will! Leftists - Obama included - overtly sympathize with illegals.
MALDEF, ACLU, ACORN MEChA, and all the other far-left organizations
that want to destroy America, and who *today* already sympathize with
illegal aliens, can barely wait for the ink to dry on any Obamacare
bill
before they run into federal court and demand that coverage extend to
illegals. And when they do, Obama's administration will file amicus
briefs with the courts agreeing with the plaintiffs.

Guaranteed.

They're not listening.

Conservatives and moderates aren't listening. Illegal alien loving
"liberals" are, and they're laughing, because they know it's true.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

the right's not listening because they've already destroyed america.
we're on the road to being a 3rd world country, courtesy of 30 years
of reagonomics.
------
Reaganonics end tbe 1982 recession by leaving more money in producers
pockets, raising the incentive and rewards of producing. By chance it also
happened to address the reasons for the recession, people didn't have the
money to spend.

At the rate Obama is going, we all might as well getting use to being poor,
as with more and more working for goverrnment does not create wealth. In
Regan's term, buy now it was on a firm turn around minus the inflation.
With Obamanomics unemployment is still growing, GSP is still stagnent and we
are on the horizon of 70's like inflation.

The key to addressing any problem is to see the problem. People don't have
the cash flow to sustain government debt, banks and corporate welfare to the
levels the government is accustomed to.

The next economic powerhouse will be China with a much lower taxation of
wealth and growing middle class. Get used to it, America is the author of
it's own demise. Statism comes at a price, a heavy price.

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Toots Sweet
wrote:

I would suggest to you that Carter & Clinton did, and Obama will do,
more damage to American interests domestically and abroad than GWB
EVER did during his eight years in office.

By all means, don't let the facts or history cloud your fantasies.

By any objective measure, the Republicans have done more to undercut
and destroy the country in the last 30 years than Democrats will do
over the next 100.



So why don't you give us the list of items you used to claim your "objective
measures"...



The one thing I'll agree on is that Clinton was far too in love with
globalism. He hastened our demise buying into the Republican wet
dream of global corporatism.


It's "global corporatism", that is US corporations selling their products,
goods, and services, all over the planet that made the US so rich
It's universal ignorance, that makes idiots like you claim that it's a bad
thing.

"Wilson Woods" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Toots Sweet
wrote:

I would suggest to you that Carter & Clinton did, and Obama will do,
more damage to American interests domestically and abroad than GWB
EVER did during his eight years in office.

By all means, don't let the facts or history cloud your fantasies.

By any objective measure, the Republicans have done more to undercut
and destroy the country in the last 30 years than Democrats will do
over the next 100.

Hey, that game looks like fun! Let *me* try it, huh?

By any objective measure, Obama will do more to set back the human
condition just during his morning dump tomorrow than all Republicans,
Conservatives, Tories, Royalists, Christian Democrats and other
center-right parties have done in recorded history.

Wow, that /was/ fun!

Here's another one.
By any objective measure, socialists have caused more death and misery in
the last 100 years than anyone else has in previous times.
(See www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM "

"jps" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:13:22 -0700, Wilson Woods
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Toots Sweet
wrote:

I would suggest to you that Carter & Clinton did, and Obama will do,
more damage to American interests domestically and abroad than GWB
EVER did during his eight years in office.

By all means, don't let the facts or history cloud your fantasies.

By any objective measure, the Republicans have done more to undercut
and destroy the country in the last 30 years than Democrats will do
over the next 100.

Hey, that game looks like fun! Let *me* try it, huh?

By any objective measure, Obama will do more to set back the human
condition just during his morning dump tomorrow than all Republicans,
Conservatives, Tories, Royalists, Christian Democrats and other
center-right parties have done in recorded history.

Wow, that /was/ fun!

Difference is, I can provide the objective measure.

You, not so much.

Go ahead, provide it.

On Sep 23, 7:43*am, "SaPeIsMa" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

...

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Toots Sweet
wrote:

I would suggest to you that Carter & Clinton did, and Obama will do,
more damage to American interests domestically and abroad than GWB
EVER did during his eight years in office.

By all means, don't let the facts or history cloud your fantasies.

By any objective measure, the Republicans have done more to undercut
and destroy the country in the last 30 years than Democrats will do
over the next 100.

So why don't you give us the list of items you used to claim your "objective
measures"...

the fact that under bush, the middle class had no increase in the
standard of living while the richest 1% saw their income triple, for
example...that the kind of data you need...and, will, of couse, ignore


The one thing I'll agree on is that Clinton was far too in love with
globalism. *He hastened our demise buying into the Republican wet
dream of global corporatism.

It's "global corporatism", that is US corporations selling their products,
goods, and services, all over the planet that made the US so rich

the US isn't rich. we're a debtor nation primarily because global
corporatism has exported jobs in a race to the bottom.

It's universal ignorance, that makes idiots like you claim that it's a bad
thing.

says the ostrich, congratulating himself on his view of the world.

jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:13:22 -0700, Wilson Woods
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Toots Sweet
wrote:

I would suggest to you that Carter & Clinton did, and Obama will do,
more damage to American interests domestically and abroad than GWB
EVER did during his eight years in office.
By all means, don't let the facts or history cloud your fantasies.

By any objective measure, the Republicans have done more to undercut
and destroy the country in the last 30 years than Democrats will do
over the next 100.
Hey, that game looks like fun! Let *me* try it, huh?

By any objective measure, Obama will do more to set back the human
condition just during his morning dump tomorrow than all Republicans,
Conservatives, Tories, Royalists, Christian Democrats and other
center-right parties have done in recorded history.

Wow, that /was/ fun!

Difference is, I can provide the objective measure.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! *GOOD* one!

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:02:41 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:37:21 -0700 (PDT), Toots Sweet
wrote:

On Sep 22, 11:25*am, H the K wrote:

The group of 'em ought to be called "Woofie and the Dogmatics."

Ah, the Battle of the Bands.

Harry and the Minions of Glorious Cultural Revolution Marching Towards
The Grand Future In Socialist Lock Step Comrades.

You are an idiot. Socialism isn't happening nor will it happen in
this country. The asshole CEOs who ran our country into the ground
with the Republicans had to beg for a handout so we'd not descend into
complete recession.

It's not a goal for the government to own Amercican business, it was a
necessity so we wouldn't go down the ******** in real hurry.

Oh really? You need to wake up jps. Or was taking over banks and
automobile manufacturing a 'necessity' like the war in Afghanistan?

Get a ****ing education you fool.

Learn some different adjectives, you ****I .

--

John H

On 9/23/09 11:08 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:02:41 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:37:21 -0700 (PDT), Toots Sweet
wrote:

On Sep 22, 11:25 am, H the wrote:

The group of 'em ought to be called "Woofie and the Dogmatics."

Ah, the Battle of the Bands.

Harry and the Minions of Glorious Cultural Revolution Marching Towards
The Grand Future In Socialist Lock Step Comrades.

You are an idiot. Socialism isn't happening nor will it happen in
this country. The asshole CEOs who ran our country into the ground
with the Republicans had to beg for a handout so we'd not descend into
complete recession.

It's not a goal for the government to own Amercican business, it was a
necessity so we wouldn't go down the ******** in real hurry.

Oh really? You need to wake up jps. Or was taking over banks and
automobile manufacturing a 'necessity' like the war in Afghanistan?

Get a ****ing education you fool.

Learn some different adjectives, you ****I .

--

John H


Jesus...I drop my shields for a moment to make some adjustments and
there you are, john herring ****wit...the same old and aging right-wing
asshole as always.

Why aren't you motorcycling up to connecticut to help your buttbuddy
Scotty plant his daddy in the ground?

B'uh-bye...and back in the septic tank you go.



--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

On Sep 23, 7:40*am, "Canuck57" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 21, 10:58 pm, Wilson Woods wrote:





wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:12:00 -0700, Wilson Woods
wrote:

In 1964, when Republicans objected to the Civil Rights Act because it
would lead to quotas, Hubert Humphrey notoriously said he would "start
eating the pages one after another, because [language mandating quotas]
is not in there." Of course, it didn't matter that the language wasn't
in there - the act *DID* lead to quotas.

There is no language in any funding bill for public education in any
state that explicitly provides for providing public schooling to
illegal
aliens, but we now have a regime that *mandates* providing public
schooling to illegal aliens.

Why would any serious person think the same thing won't happen with
health care for illegal aliens under Obamacare legislation? Of *course*
it will! Leftists - Obama included - overtly sympathize with illegals.
MALDEF, ACLU, ACORN MEChA, and all the other far-left organizations
that want to destroy America, and who *today* already sympathize with
illegal aliens, can barely wait for the ink to dry on any Obamacare
bill
before they run into federal court and demand that coverage extend to
illegals. And when they do, Obama's administration will file amicus
briefs with the courts agreeing with the plaintiffs.

Guaranteed.

They're not listening.

Conservatives and moderates aren't listening. Illegal alien loving
"liberals" are, and they're laughing, because they know it's true.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

the right's not listening because they've already destroyed america.
we're on the road to being a 3rd world country, courtesy of 30 years
of reagonomics.
------
Reaganonics end tbe 1982 recession by leaving more money in producers
pockets, raising the incentive and rewards of producing. *By chance it also
happened to address the reasons for the recession, people didn't have the
money to spend.

it left more money in the hands of the rich and began the long,
downward spiral of middle class incomes. remember 'supply side'
economics...which we know is wrong, but was all the rage under reagan.


At the rate Obama is going, we all might as well getting use to being poor,

we ALREADY are poor, courtesy of george bush and his free market
fundamentalism. obama has done NOTHING that is worse than bush did.

as with more and more working for goverrnment does not create wealth.

wrong. i suggest you read the latest article by richard posner, a
former conservative free market fundamentalist, in the 'new
republic'.


*In
Regan's term, buy now it was on a firm turn around minus the inflation.
With Obamanomics unemployment is still growing, GSP is still stagnent and we
are on the horizon of 70's like inflation.

you seem to think obama was president for the last 8 years. newsflash,
genius: he wasn't. the problems he's addressing were created by bush.




The next economic powerhouse will be China with a much lower taxation of
wealth and growing middle class. *Get used to it, America is the author of
it's own demise. *Statism comes at a price, a heavy price.-

under bush we already had socialism: for the rich. we privatized
reward and socialized risk for the wealthy.

you just have a double standard.

JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:02:41 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:37:21 -0700 (PDT), Toots Sweet
wrote:

On Sep 22, 11:25 am, H the K wrote:

The group of 'em ought to be called "Woofie and the Dogmatics."
Ah, the Battle of the Bands.

Harry and the Minions of Glorious Cultural Revolution Marching Towards
The Grand Future In Socialist Lock Step Comrades.
You are an idiot. Socialism isn't happening nor will it happen in
this country. The asshole CEOs who ran our country into the ground
with the Republicans had to beg for a handout so we'd not descend into
complete recession.

It's not a goal for the government to own Amercican business, it was a
necessity so we wouldn't go down the ******** in real hurry.

Oh really? You need to wake up jps. Or was taking over banks and
automobile manufacturing a 'necessity' like the war in Afghanistan?

Get a ****ing education you fool.

Learn some different adjectives, you ****I .

--

John H


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