I just checked slip fees at Carabelle Florida. $260/month and that
includes water and electric. I think that is high and they say they
have slips available, meaning that people will not pay.
Their rate for hauling both ways (in and out) is $308. Their fee for
keeping her on blocks in their yard is $190/month.

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I just checked slip fees at Carabelle Florida. $260/month and that
includes water and electric. I think that is high and they say they
have slips available, meaning that people will not pay.
Their rate for hauling both ways (in and out) is $308. Their fee for
keeping her on blocks in their yard is $190/month.

It may be high for Carabelle but $9/month/ft is about par for the
course in the rest of Florida.

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I just checked slip fees at Carabelle Florida. $260/month and that
includes water and electric. I think that is high and they say they
have slips available, meaning that people will not pay.
Their rate for hauling both ways (in and out) is $308. Their fee for
keeping her on blocks in their yard is $190/month.

Roughly $9/ft is expensive?

Good thing you don't live up here - you'd have a heart attack.

On Oct 6, 10:31*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
I just checked slip fees at Carabelle Florida. *$260/month and that
includes water and electric. *I think that is high and they say they
have slips available, meaning that people will not pay.
Their rate for hauling both ways (in and out) is $308. *Their fee for
keeping her on blocks in their yard is $190/month.

It may be high for Carabelle but $9/month/ft is about par for the
course in the rest of Florida.

In 1985 when I had my '28 ft. Chris Craft Cavalier slipped at lake
carlyle, it was $9.00 per ft., per month, on a nine month lease.

That was 24 yr. ago. with no shore power, that is unless you brought
your own extension cord, and water was a spigot for ever 6 slips per
dock and was used for washing purposes only. Crane fee then was
$100.00 per haul. I really don't think the rate they're quoting you is
really that high.

On Oct 6, 12:37*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:31:00 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I just checked slip fees at Carabelle Florida. *$260/month and that
includes water and electric. *I think that is high and they say they
have slips available, meaning that people will not pay.
Their rate for hauling both ways (in and out) is $308. *Their fee for
keeping her on blocks in their yard is $190/month.

It may be high for Carabelle but $9/month/ft is about par for the
course in the rest of Florida.

Up around Sarasota/Bradenton that is still low. My buddy gave up the
idea of buying a boat when he priced slips.
They may be a little cheaper now but he was looking at $3500-4000 a
year for a large day sailer

When I see the number of vacant slips in these parts, I think it is
high. We have an unfinished marina within 5 minutes of my boat, and
at least 30 vacant slips within walking distance of my boat. 5 miles
away East there is another unfinished marina and another 15 vacant
slips. In Carrabelle, there are two unfinished marinas and about 30
vacant slips. In Panacea, there are about 8 vacant slips. This does
not count all the private docks available.
However, the yard in Carrabelle is the only one within 70 miles where
I can get my boat hauled and put on the bank for a month.

On 10/6/09 1:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:04:54 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Oct 6, 12:37 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:31:00 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:02:03 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I just checked slip fees at Carabelle Florida. $260/month and that
includes water and electric. I think that is high and they say they
have slips available, meaning that people will not pay.
Their rate for hauling both ways (in and out) is $308. Their fee for
keeping her on blocks in their yard is $190/month.

It may be high for Carabelle but $9/month/ft is about par for the
course in the rest of Florida.

Up around Sarasota/Bradenton that is still low. My buddy gave up the
idea of buying a boat when he priced slips.
They may be a little cheaper now but he was looking at $3500-4000 a
year for a large day sailer

When I see the number of vacant slips in these parts, I think it is
high. We have an unfinished marina within 5 minutes of my boat, and
at least 30 vacant slips within walking distance of my boat. 5 miles
away East there is another unfinished marina and another 15 vacant
slips. In Carrabelle, there are two unfinished marinas and about 30
vacant slips. In Panacea, there are about 8 vacant slips. This does
not count all the private docks available.
However, the yard in Carrabelle is the only one within 70 miles where
I can get my boat hauled and put on the bank for a month.


At a certain point the owner can't cut his fee any more.
He still has his bills to pay. Taxes, interest and insurance certainly
didn't go down even if he slashed his payroll..
I suspect the market may force some of those guys out of business.
Then who knows who will end up being there, but they will, by
definition, be rich people. The only question is whether the regular
riff raff will be allowed to keep boats there after that.
The loss of public dock space is already a problem in large parts of
the US. Every time we have one of these recessions that amount of
public dock space gets smaller.

I'm sure happy I have my little patch of water behind my house. It is
really the most valuable thing I own.


What happens when the canal collapses? :)





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On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:07:33 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Roughly $9/ft is expensive?

Good thing you don't live up here - you'd have a heart attack.

Yeah. I think Nantucket Boat Basin is up to about $9/ft/day.

On Oct 6, 1:31*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:07:33 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
Roughly $9/ft is expensive?

Good thing you don't live up here - you'd have a heart attack.

Yeah. *I think Nantucket Boat Basin is up to about $9/ft/day.

Wow. Charleston Harbor City Marina charges $1/ft/day for transient
slips with a 30ft minimum. The other marinas nearby seemed to all be
the same. Don't know what they charge for hookups, I didn't need any.

Our home slip on the lake is less than $120/month.

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 11:13:35 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

Wow. Charleston Harbor City Marina charges $1/ft/day for transient
slips with a 30ft minimum.

Yes, and it's a first class marina also. The mid-Atlantic states
seem to have the most reasonable dockage rates for some reason.

On 10/6/09 3:14 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:26:22 -0400, H the K
wrote:

I'm sure happy I have my little patch of water behind my house. It is
really the most valuable thing I own.


What happens when the canal collapses? :)

That is what HOAs are good for. My dock is at the end of the canal
that serves the HOA boat basin so they would fix it.
In real life I would probably rent a big assed pump and suck it out
myself since I am the biggest user. I can sell the dirt for the price
of a day's pump rental.
Permits are trivial on this because it is not a natural body of water.
I just need to mud boom the entrance of the canal. If you boomed the
canal and did it over the weekend you could probably get away without
a permit, but as Nixon said, "that would be wrong" ;-)

The HOA has looked into digging the canal deeper but it is on the
"wait and see" agenda.

BTW that is the main reason why I let the mangroves grow as wild as
they are on the banks (ask Wayne). It holds the dirt so the canal
won't "collapse". Nature beats technology every time.
Just be sure to duck on your way out ;-)


In some parts of the world, there would be interesting snakes living
among the branches of those mangroves, just waiting to drop down on you,
including the genus Bungarus.



:)

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