On 10/18/09 7:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:44:32 -0400, wrote:

On the one hand, the right claims that it's the sun that's warming the
earth. On the other hand, the right claims that it isn't happening. Would
you like to pick one?


Cite please.

Jim, you must be in love.



No doubt, since it is unlikely he gets any at home.


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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
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In thirty years, I have never seen this happen before.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zzards%20I.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zards%20II.jpg

Nine black buzzards on the main house and another six on the guest
house and an additional eleven in the trees - that picture didn't
come
out that well.

26 black buzzards in one place at the same time.

Must be global warming. :)
Maybe it is! We have the same thing occurring here. Never, in
anybody's recollection, have there been this many buzzards. Where
there used to be one or two, now there are large flocks....

Weird.

I don't think any one event can have a direct link to adverse climate
change. It's a pattern, mostly of high and increased variability.
Global
Warming isn't the correct nomenclature for what's going on. The correct
term
is Adverse Climate Change, which is attributed to our pollution.
Maybe, but the Earth, as a whole, is warming.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet?
---Apologies to WS

I think attribution of all "Adverse Climate Change" to "our" pollution
is a fallacy... the "fossil record" clearly makes us accessories after
the fact..... whether it is a warning ticket, a misdemeanor, or a
felony is yet to be determined

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who
are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

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Well, as someone said, words count. So, if one is going to try and get
consensus and action, it's important to use some accuracy. The earth is
warming, but the issue that's most troubling is the variations we're
seeing.
We've certainly dramatically increased the amount of C02 in the
atmosphere
in the last 100 years or so. That can't be a good thing.
Who says the earth is warming, Al Gore? He should immediately be
discounted for being a proven liar, and of course having his hands deep
in the pockets of the Global Taxing industry... I have read many reports
that state that the earth has been cooling for nearly a decade...


On the one hand, the right claims that it's the sun that's warming the
earth. On the other hand, the right claims that it isn't happening. Would
you like to pick one?


Cite please.

Please, these are talking "points", not essays... It's easier for these
folks to argue if they get to make up both sides of the conversation.

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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:45:05 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In thirty years, I have never seen this happen before.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zzards%20I.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zards%20II.jpg

Nine black buzzards on the main house and another six on the guest
house and an additional eleven in the trees - that picture didn't
come
out that well.

26 black buzzards in one place at the same time.

Must be global warming. :)

Maybe it is! We have the same thing occurring here. Never, in
anybody's recollection, have there been this many buzzards. Where
there used to be one or two, now there are large flocks....

Weird.


I don't think any one event can have a direct link to adverse
climate
change. It's a pattern, mostly of high and increased variability.
Global
Warming isn't the correct nomenclature for what's going on. The
correct
term
is Adverse Climate Change, which is attributed to our pollution.

Maybe, but the Earth, as a whole, is warming.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet?
---Apologies to WS

I think attribution of all "Adverse Climate Change" to "our"
pollution
is a fallacy... the "fossil record" clearly makes us accessories
after
the fact..... whether it is a warning ticket, a misdemeanor, or a
felony is yet to be determined

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who
are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171


Well, as someone said, words count. So, if one is going to try and get
consensus and action, it's important to use some accuracy. The earth
is
warming, but the issue that's most troubling is the variations we're
seeing.
We've certainly dramatically increased the amount of C02 in the
atmosphere
in the last 100 years or so. That can't be a good thing.

Who says the earth is warming, Al Gore? He should immediately be
discounted for being a proven liar, and of course having his hands deep
in the pockets of the Global Taxing industry... I have read many
reports
that state that the earth has been cooling for nearly a decade...


On the one hand, the right claims that it's the sun that's warming the
earth. On the other hand, the right claims that it isn't happening. Would
you like to pick one?

Guess you would have to ask someone who thinks the earth is warming...
Personally I have seen too much evidenced that the numbers and
monitoring stations have been compromised...


Yes, I'm sure you have.

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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:44:32 -0400, Jim wrote:

On the one hand, the right claims that it's the sun that's warming the
earth. On the other hand, the right claims that it isn't happening.
Would
you like to pick one?


Cite please.

Jim, you must be in love.



Sounds like it. That or he doesn't google. Can't help him with either
though.

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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In thirty years, I have never seen this happen before.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zzards%20I.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zards%20II.jpg

Nine black buzzards on the main house and another six on the guest
house and an additional eleven in the trees - that picture didn't
come
out that well.

26 black buzzards in one place at the same time.

Must be global warming. :)

Maybe it is! We have the same thing occurring here. Never, in
anybody's recollection, have there been this many buzzards. Where
there used to be one or two, now there are large flocks....

Weird.


I don't think any one event can have a direct link to adverse climate
change. It's a pattern, mostly of high and increased variability.
Global
Warming isn't the correct nomenclature for what's going on. The
correct
term
is Adverse Climate Change, which is attributed to our pollution.

Global taxing, climate change...

Health care reform, Health Insurance reform...

Create jobs, save jobs...

Change, repair...

LOL, see a pattern here??

Lack of education and/or inability of those on the right to logical
argument?

Uh, no... Think shooting darts, only with a blindfold, using only your
ears and the sound of the crowd to decide which direction to throw.


Sounds like Rush's/Beck's crowd. I'm assuming that's not how you meant it.

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On 10/18/09 9:22 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:45:05 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In thirty years, I have never seen this happen before.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zzards%20I.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zards%20II.jpg

Nine black buzzards on the main house and another six on the guest
house and an additional eleven in the trees - that picture didn't
come
out that well.

26 black buzzards in one place at the same time.

Must be global warming. :)

Maybe it is! We have the same thing occurring here. Never, in
anybody's recollection, have there been this many buzzards. Where
there used to be one or two, now there are large flocks....

Weird.


I don't think any one event can have a direct link to adverse
climate
change. It's a pattern, mostly of high and increased variability.
Global
Warming isn't the correct nomenclature for what's going on. The
correct
term
is Adverse Climate Change, which is attributed to our pollution.

Maybe, but the Earth, as a whole, is warming.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet?
---Apologies to WS

I think attribution of all "Adverse Climate Change" to "our"
pollution
is a fallacy... the "fossil record" clearly makes us accessories
after
the fact..... whether it is a warning ticket, a misdemeanor, or a
felony is yet to be determined

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who
are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171


Well, as someone said, words count. So, if one is going to try and get
consensus and action, it's important to use some accuracy. The earth
is
warming, but the issue that's most troubling is the variations we're
seeing.
We've certainly dramatically increased the amount of C02 in the
atmosphere
in the last 100 years or so. That can't be a good thing.

Who says the earth is warming, Al Gore? He should immediately be
discounted for being a proven liar, and of course having his hands deep
in the pockets of the Global Taxing industry... I have read many
reports
that state that the earth has been cooling for nearly a decade...


On the one hand, the right claims that it's the sun that's warming the
earth. On the other hand, the right claims that it isn't happening. Would
you like to pick one?

Guess you would have to ask someone who thinks the earth is warming...
Personally I have seen too much evidenced that the numbers and
monitoring stations have been compromised...


Yes, I'm sure you have.



Ingersoll wants us to believe he has the education to understand climate
data.


--
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are
conservatives. - John Stuart Mill

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"Gene" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In thirty years, I have never seen this happen before.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zzards%20I.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zards%20II.jpg

Nine black buzzards on the main house and another six on the guest
house and an additional eleven in the trees - that picture didn't
come
out that well.

26 black buzzards in one place at the same time.

Must be global warming. :)

Maybe it is! We have the same thing occurring here. Never, in
anybody's recollection, have there been this many buzzards. Where
there used to be one or two, now there are large flocks....

Weird.


I don't think any one event can have a direct link to adverse climate
change. It's a pattern, mostly of high and increased variability.
Global
Warming isn't the correct nomenclature for what's going on. The
correct
term
is Adverse Climate Change, which is attributed to our pollution.

Global taxing, climate change...

Health care reform, Health Insurance reform...

Create jobs, save jobs...

Change, repair...

LOL, see a pattern here??

Lack of education and/or inability of those on the right to logical
argument?

Uh, no... Think shooting darts, only with a blindfold, using only your
ears and the sound of the crowd to decide which direction to throw.


Sounds like Rush's/Beck's crowd. I'm assuming that's not how you meant it.

So, how would you like me to mean it, I mean, you are going to make up
your own version of Rush and Becks crowd which neither one of us listen
to I am sure... But anyway, tell me what I know please, it is comical to
hear you all tell your stories and try to justify your stereotypes...

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:22:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:45:05 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Gene" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In thirty years, I have never seen this happen before.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zzards%20I.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zards%20II.jpg

Nine black buzzards on the main house and another six on the guest
house and an additional eleven in the trees - that picture didn't
come
out that well.

26 black buzzards in one place at the same time.

Must be global warming. :)

Maybe it is! We have the same thing occurring here. Never, in
anybody's recollection, have there been this many buzzards. Where
there used to be one or two, now there are large flocks....

Weird.


I don't think any one event can have a direct link to adverse
climate
change. It's a pattern, mostly of high and increased variability.
Global
Warming isn't the correct nomenclature for what's going on. The
correct
term
is Adverse Climate Change, which is attributed to our pollution.

Maybe, but the Earth, as a whole, is warming.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet?
---Apologies to WS

I think attribution of all "Adverse Climate Change" to "our"
pollution
is a fallacy... the "fossil record" clearly makes us accessories
after
the fact..... whether it is a warning ticket, a misdemeanor, or a
felony is yet to be determined

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who
are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171


Well, as someone said, words count. So, if one is going to try and get
consensus and action, it's important to use some accuracy. The earth
is
warming, but the issue that's most troubling is the variations we're
seeing.
We've certainly dramatically increased the amount of C02 in the
atmosphere
in the last 100 years or so. That can't be a good thing.

Who says the earth is warming, Al Gore? He should immediately be
discounted for being a proven liar, and of course having his hands deep
in the pockets of the Global Taxing industry... I have read many
reports
that state that the earth has been cooling for nearly a decade...


On the one hand, the right claims that it's the sun that's warming the
earth. On the other hand, the right claims that it isn't happening. Would
you like to pick one?

Guess you would have to ask someone who thinks the earth is warming...
Personally I have seen too much evidenced that the numbers and
monitoring stations have been compromised...


Yes, I'm sure you have.

He's among those who receive personalized signals from the monitoring
station. No need for a tin hat as they come directly to the part of
the cortex responsible for auditory synapses. Same gift that GW Bush
used when God told him to run for office and invade Iraq.

Special people.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:24:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In thirty years, I have never seen this happen before.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zzards%20I.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zards%20II.jpg

Nine black buzzards on the main house and another six on the guest
house and an additional eleven in the trees - that picture didn't
come
out that well.

26 black buzzards in one place at the same time.

Must be global warming. :)

Maybe it is! We have the same thing occurring here. Never, in
anybody's recollection, have there been this many buzzards. Where
there used to be one or two, now there are large flocks....

Weird.


I don't think any one event can have a direct link to adverse climate
change. It's a pattern, mostly of high and increased variability.
Global
Warming isn't the correct nomenclature for what's going on. The
correct
term
is Adverse Climate Change, which is attributed to our pollution.

Global taxing, climate change...

Health care reform, Health Insurance reform...

Create jobs, save jobs...

Change, repair...

LOL, see a pattern here??

Lack of education and/or inability of those on the right to logical
argument?

Uh, no... Think shooting darts, only with a blindfold, using only your
ears and the sound of the crowd to decide which direction to throw.


Sounds like Rush's/Beck's crowd. I'm assuming that's not how you meant it.

Yes he did. They know they're right just because. Facts don't rate.

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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:56:36 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

In thirty years, I have never seen this happen before.

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zzards%20I.jpg

http://www.swsports.org/images/Pictu...zards%20II.jpg

Nine black buzzards on the main house and another six on the
guest
house and an additional eleven in the trees - that picture didn't
come
out that well.

26 black buzzards in one place at the same time.

Must be global warming. :)

Maybe it is! We have the same thing occurring here. Never, in
anybody's recollection, have there been this many buzzards. Where
there used to be one or two, now there are large flocks....

Weird.


I don't think any one event can have a direct link to adverse
climate
change. It's a pattern, mostly of high and increased variability.
Global
Warming isn't the correct nomenclature for what's going on. The
correct
term
is Adverse Climate Change, which is attributed to our pollution.

Global taxing, climate change...

Health care reform, Health Insurance reform...

Create jobs, save jobs...

Change, repair...

LOL, see a pattern here??

Lack of education and/or inability of those on the right to logical
argument?

Uh, no... Think shooting darts, only with a blindfold, using only your
ears and the sound of the crowd to decide which direction to throw.


Sounds like Rush's/Beck's crowd. I'm assuming that's not how you meant
it.

So, how would you like me to mean it, I mean, you are going to make up
your own version of Rush and Becks crowd which neither one of us listen
to I am sure... But anyway, tell me what I know please, it is comical to
hear you all tell your stories and try to justify your stereotypes...


I do not presume to tell you what you mean. I said "sounds like" the crowd.
If you don't listen to them, perhaps you should just a little bit, then
you'll see what I mean.

I'm sure I have plenty of things I stereotype, but I work against that
instinct. You know... things like mosquitoes are evil and my obsessive
hatred of pigeons, because they're filthy little beasts.

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