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On Oct 18, 7:52*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:12:09 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:59:06 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:08:51 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Oct 18, 5:28*pm, thunder wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:04:32 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Had my daughter at her crew practice so I took a walk an the nature trail. *By the time I got outta the woods my legs were itching and by Thur night I had obvious bites all over. *Now, I am covered with itchy welts. *YIKES, redbugs. *I used to be immune to them what's going on here. *I'd only get a few but this is major. *Now I see why people hated them so much. *Oddly, my entire family was immune to them but now I am not. What are red bugs? *Chiggers? Chiggers, yup Try rubbing the bites with ammonia. *It's amazingly effective on mosquito bites. A paste of baking soda on fire ants, wasps and other acid based venom critters. The ones that eat you inject some kind of saliva but I am not sure about the pH of that. I got ate up down there about a month ago. Not sure what it was - maybe a combo of no-see-ums and some kind of little black fly that swarmed me as soon as we entered a nature preserve in Punta Gorda. Some nature preserve. *Just a place where they put a trail through the woods, and never spray. *Not fit for human beings. *Probably the only thing in there is bugs and the bugs that eat other bugs. Didn't get a good look as I didn't have my glasses on. Started to swat them off, but there were too many - so we ran like hell out of there. *Still see the spots on my legs. Good reason to never wear shorts in the woods. I tried the ammonia stuff Wayne suggested, among a few other things, but nothing helped to reduce the itching except time. Managed to resist scratching through sheer will power, but them things poisoned me good. *All that resisting makes you prone to drinking beer to make you forget about the itching. So there is an upside. Probably lost my resistance to bug bites. *Haven't been hit like that since I was a kid. *Hardly got my wife at all, and usually it's the reverse. --Vic When I as in college, one afternoon prob after smoking enough to have really poor judgement, 4 of us decided to go for a nice romantic campout on the coast in the dunes. We talked a friend into driving us down to Bald Point south of Tallahassee in the middle of nowhere and drop us off to pick us up the next day. Afternoon was ok but then the no-see-ums came out around dusk. We had no tent cuz we didnt expect rain and no sleeping bags cuz i was still summer and we was mizerable. No breeze at all. The only way to get relief was to stand in the middle of the paved road with 10 feet on either side to the sand. The density of no-see-ums was just a trifle lower in the middle of the road. To sleep, we would lay down in the road while somebody was appointed to look out for cars. No cars came the entire night. Funny now but wasnt then. |
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On Oct 18, 8:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Oct 18, 7:52*pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:12:09 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:59:06 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:08:51 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Oct 18, 5:28*pm, thunder wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:04:32 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Had my daughter at her crew practice so I took a walk an the nature trail. *By the time I got outta the woods my legs were itching and by Thur night I had obvious bites all over. *Now, I am covered with itchy welts. *YIKES, redbugs. *I used to be immune to them what's going on here. *I'd only get a few but this is major. *Now I see why people hated them so much. *Oddly, my entire family was immune to them but now I am not. What are red bugs? *Chiggers? Chiggers, yup Try rubbing the bites with ammonia. *It's amazingly effective on mosquito bites. A paste of baking soda on fire ants, wasps and other acid based venom critters. The ones that eat you inject some kind of saliva but I am not sure about the pH of that. I got ate up down there about a month ago. Not sure what it was - maybe a combo of no-see-ums and some kind of little black fly that swarmed me as soon as we entered a nature preserve in Punta Gorda. Some nature preserve. *Just a place where they put a trail through the woods, and never spray. *Not fit for human beings. *Probably the only thing in there is bugs and the bugs that eat other bugs. Didn't get a good look as I didn't have my glasses on. Started to swat them off, but there were too many - so we ran like hell out of there. *Still see the spots on my legs. Good reason to never wear shorts in the woods. I tried the ammonia stuff Wayne suggested, among a few other things, but nothing helped to reduce the itching except time. Managed to resist scratching through sheer will power, but them things poisoned me good. *All that resisting makes you prone to drinking beer to make you forget about the itching. So there is an upside. Probably lost my resistance to bug bites. *Haven't been hit like that since I was a kid. *Hardly got my wife at all, and usually it's the reverse. --Vic When I as in college, one afternoon prob after smoking enough to have really poor judgement, 4 of us decided to go for a nice romantic campout on the coast in the dunes. *We talked a friend into driving us down to Bald Point south of Tallahassee in the middle of nowhere and drop us off to pick us up the next day. Afternoon was ok but then the no-see-ums came out around dusk. *We had no tent cuz we didnt expect rain and no *sleeping bags cuz i was still summer and we was mizerable. *No breeze at all. *The only way to get relief was to stand in the middle of the paved road with 10 feet on either side to the sand. *The density of no-see-ums was just a trifle lower in the middle of the road. *To sleep, we would lay down in the road while somebody was appointed to look out for cars. *No cars came the entire night. *Funny now but wasnt then. I just read that indians used wax myrtle as a natural repellent. Dunno how well it'd work but it does grow everywhere here. Also read that willow bark has natural aspirin, willow is everywhere near water too. |
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H the K wrote:
On 10/18/09 6:59 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:08:51 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Oct 18, 5:28 pm, wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:04:32 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Had my daughter at her crew practice so I took a walk an the nature trail. By the time I got outta the woods my legs were itching and by Thur night I had obvious bites all over. Now, I am covered with itchy welts. YIKES, redbugs. I used to be immune to them what's going on here. I'd only get a few but this is major. Now I see why people hated them so much. Oddly, my entire family was immune to them but now I am not. What are red bugs? Chiggers? Chiggers, yup Try rubbing the bites with ammonia. It's amazingly effective on mosquito bites. And it will improve froggy's natural body aroma. Another sad response from a "professional" writer. |
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On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:04:32 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
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![]() wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:10:13 -0300, "Don White" wrote: I used to hear that indians in FL used to apply lots of mud to their bodies to protect themselves from bugs. Wonder if this was true? If it dried and flaked off, it'd still leave enough residue to minimize exposed bare skin. How did they bear all the bugs? That is true but it was mud from shell and limestone, not clay like you have up there. I think the combination of the alkalinity and the barrier protection was the key. Guys I know from Everglades City are pretty much immune to mosquitoes anyway. They just tolerate the bites As a related thing to the mud, I know concrete dust is a mosquito repellant. If you are out in the morning mixing concrete they will bite until you get a bit of the concrete dust on you ther they leave you alone. - Plugs up their biters? |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:38:00 -0400, "mmc" wrote:
Vic, Try looking like a local next time, the bugs are trained to eat tourists and condo dwellers. Black socks and shorts are a key ID feature for tourists and condo dwellers. That was the only time I wore them outside. And the worse time to wear them. Don't like shorts, but the wife is always tries laying them out for me. I bit this time - and got bit back. All kidding aside, Avon Skin So Soft is great stuff for keeping the bugs away. Met a sailor down there who said the same thing. I'm going to get some. We were talking about no-see-ums. He said the worst time for them was at dusk and dawn. A few got me on the arms, but since I wore jeans all the time when fishing, never felt them there. I usually wear a long-sleeve shirt when fishing but it was so damn hot down there I was in a t-shirt. Wife used DEET and started calling it no-see-um food. We have a city owned island (only boat access - no bridge) that is a nature reserve on this side of Florida and the last time we went was during the week when the place was empty, saw gopher tortuses, armadillo, osprey, buzzerds, mocking birds, bluejays, finches, etc, etc. during a 1 hour walk. Daybreak is a much better time to see wildlife but I can't get the boat loaded (people) that early. We found a pretty good nature park at Ponce de Leon with most of those critters and it was likewise empty of people. No bugs there. This place I got ate up was basically an undeveloped few acres right in the town. Had maybe 6 parking slots, a nice sign. Here's the sign, with wife next to it. Only pic we got there. She liked the pastels. http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...t/IMG_1604.jpg They whacked a narrow trail into the brush/mangroves and laid down some gravel. We laugh about this"idyllic" pic, because less than a minute later we entered the trail, got attacked within 20 feet, and were running like hell out of that place. Jumped real quick into the car, floored it and kept on screaming as we escaped the vicinity. Lucky I didn't get a ticket. Never saw so many bugs light on me at once. Sure did change the "ambience" of my vacation, what with me itching to get on vacation, then really itching all through my vacation. Pretty sure this is what got me, http://www.entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatu...stock/bfly.htm Seems to fit. It was pretty wet down there. They didn't get my wife, it was skeeters that attacked her, but not bad. She was back a bit from me, because after the skeeters started on her she stopped and didn't want to go further after 10 feet in. I hadn't even seen a skeeter and went ahead another 10 feet to show her there was nothing to it. You can hardly feel these things bite. By the time I felt anything my legs were black with them. Itching started within a minute, and lasted almost 2 weeks. Think I got enough of whatever they inject that it tired me out a bit, and made me drink more beer than I otherwise would. Reduces the itching after 4 or 5. Or maybe you just don't know you're scratching. If I'd been wearing long pants and shirt, it would have been a non-event. Would have just backed out of there slow and easy. --Vic |
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![]() "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Oct 18, 8:05 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Oct 18, 7:52 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:12:09 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:59:06 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:08:51 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Oct 18, 5:28 pm, thunder wrote: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:04:32 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Had my daughter at her crew practice so I took a walk an the nature trail. By the time I got outta the woods my legs were itching and by Thur night I had obvious bites all over. Now, I am covered with itchy welts. YIKES, redbugs. I used to be immune to them what's going on here. I'd only get a few but this is major. Now I see why people hated them so much. Oddly, my entire family was immune to them but now I am not. What are red bugs? Chiggers? Chiggers, yup Try rubbing the bites with ammonia. It's amazingly effective on mosquito bites. A paste of baking soda on fire ants, wasps and other acid based venom critters. The ones that eat you inject some kind of saliva but I am not sure about the pH of that. I got ate up down there about a month ago. Not sure what it was - maybe a combo of no-see-ums and some kind of little black fly that swarmed me as soon as we entered a nature preserve in Punta Gorda. Some nature preserve. Just a place where they put a trail through the woods, and never spray. Not fit for human beings. Probably the only thing in there is bugs and the bugs that eat other bugs. Didn't get a good look as I didn't have my glasses on. Started to swat them off, but there were too many - so we ran like hell out of there. Still see the spots on my legs. Good reason to never wear shorts in the woods. I tried the ammonia stuff Wayne suggested, among a few other things, but nothing helped to reduce the itching except time. Managed to resist scratching through sheer will power, but them things poisoned me good. All that resisting makes you prone to drinking beer to make you forget about the itching. So there is an upside. Probably lost my resistance to bug bites. Haven't been hit like that since I was a kid. Hardly got my wife at all, and usually it's the reverse. --Vic When I as in college, one afternoon prob after smoking enough to have really poor judgement, 4 of us decided to go for a nice romantic campout on the coast in the dunes. We talked a friend into driving us down to Bald Point south of Tallahassee in the middle of nowhere and drop us off to pick us up the next day. Afternoon was ok but then the no-see-ums came out around dusk. We had no tent cuz we didnt expect rain and no sleeping bags cuz i was still summer and we was mizerable. No breeze at all. The only way to get relief was to stand in the middle of the paved road with 10 feet on either side to the sand. The density of no-see-ums was just a trifle lower in the middle of the road. To sleep, we would lay down in the road while somebody was appointed to look out for cars. No cars came the entire night. Funny now but wasnt then. I just read that indians used wax myrtle as a natural repellent. Dunno how well it'd work but it does grow everywhere here. Also read that willow bark has natural aspirin, willow is everywhere near water too. _______ How did they use the wax myrtle? |
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On Oct 19, 1:22*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:38:00 -0400, "mmc" wrote: Vic, Try looking like a local next time, the bugs are trained to eat tourists and condo dwellers. Black socks and shorts are a key ID feature for tourists and condo dwellers. That was the only time I wore them outside. *And the worse time to wear them. *Don't like shorts, but the wife is always tries laying them out for me. *I bit this time - and got bit back. All kidding aside, Avon Skin So Soft is great stuff for keeping the bugs away. Met a sailor down there who said the same thing. *I'm going to get some. We were talking about no-see-ums. *He said the worst time for them was at dusk and dawn. A few got me on the arms, but since I wore jeans all the time when fishing, never felt them there. *I usually wear a long-sleeve shirt when fishing but it was so damn hot down there I was in a t-shirt. Wife used DEET and started calling it no-see-um food. We have a city owned island (only boat access - no bridge) that is a nature reserve on this side of Florida and the last time we went was during the week when the place was empty, saw gopher tortuses, armadillo, osprey, buzzerds, mocking birds, bluejays, finches, etc, etc. during a 1 hour walk. Daybreak is a much better time to see wildlife but I can't get the boat loaded (people) that early. We found a pretty good nature park at Ponce de Leon with most of those critters and it was likewise empty of people. *No bugs there. This place I got ate up was basically an undeveloped few acres right in the town. *Had maybe 6 parking slots, a nice sign. * Here's the sign, with wife next to it. *Only pic we got there. *She liked the pastels.http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...t/IMG_1604.jpg They whacked a narrow trail into the brush/mangroves and laid down some gravel. We laugh about this"idyllic" pic, because less than a minute later we entered the trail, got attacked within 20 feet, and were running like hell out of that place. Jumped real quick into the car, floored it and kept on screaming as we escaped the vicinity. *Lucky I didn't get a ticket. Never saw so many bugs light on me at once. Sure did change the "ambience" of my vacation, what with me itching to get on vacation, then really itching all through my vacation. Pretty sure this is what got me,http://www.entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatu...stock/bfly.htm Seems to fit. *It was pretty wet down there. They didn't get my wife, it was skeeters that attacked her, but not bad. She was back a bit from me, because after the skeeters started on her she stopped and didn't want to go further after 10 feet in. I hadn't even seen a skeeter and went ahead another 10 feet to show her there was nothing to it. You can hardly feel these things bite. *By the time I felt anything my legs were black with them. *Itching started within a minute, and lasted almost 2 weeks. Think I got enough of whatever they inject that it tired me out a bit, and made me drink more beer than I otherwise would. Reduces the itching after 4 or 5. *Or maybe you just don't know you're scratching. * If I'd been wearing long pants and shirt, it would have been a non-event. Would have just backed out of there slow and easy. --Vic I have a friend whose job it is to survey shores after storms. He never goes out there, even in dead of summer without long sleeves, long pants, hat, socks, boots, etc. |
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