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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:56:22 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote:


Card check? No idea what you're talking about. You claimed net
neutrality was a censorship doctrine. It isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_check


Hmm... well, I don't know enough about the issue to comment. If management
is doing a good job, seems to me you don't need a union. That was why they
formed.

The union doesn't care if management is good or bad, the union is
looking for more members paying dues. With union membership dwindling
they are looking for more income and more muscle with which to lobby
Congress.

Well, now two dems are trying to make it so Fed employees (such as
themselves) don't have to pay tax on the so called "Cadillac policies"
along with the Union members.. Seems it's just a way to pay off the
folks who voted for Obama and further punish anyone who didn't... These
guys are unbelievable. Time to bring back the gallows for treason.

On 10/24/09 3:32 PM, Tosk wrote:
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wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:56:22 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote:


Card check? No idea what you're talking about. You claimed net
neutrality was a censorship doctrine. It isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_check


Hmm... well, I don't know enough about the issue to comment. If management
is doing a good job, seems to me you don't need a union. That was why they
formed.

The union doesn't care if management is good or bad, the union is
looking for more members paying dues. With union membership dwindling
they are looking for more income and more muscle with which to lobby
Congress.

Well, now two dems are trying to make it so Fed employees (such as
themselves) don't have to pay tax on the so called "Cadillac policies"
along with the Union members.. Seems it's just a way to pay off the
folks who voted for Obama and further punish anyone who didn't... These
guys are unbelievable. Time to bring back the gallows for treason.


You can follow limbaugh and beck onto the platform.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:56:22 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote:


Card check? No idea what you're talking about. You claimed net
neutrality was a censorship doctrine. It isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_check


Hmm... well, I don't know enough about the issue to comment. If
management
is doing a good job, seems to me you don't need a union. That was why
they
formed.

The union doesn't care if management is good or bad, the union is
looking for more members paying dues. With union membership dwindling
they are looking for more income and more muscle with which to lobby
Congress.



Perhaps, but that's a management issue within the union. That's got nothing
to do with why they exist in the first place, which is bad corporate
management.

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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:10:48 -0400, Tosk wrote:


puleeeeaaseeee. He was and is a joke... Kinda' like calling the
pending
censorship doctrine, the "fairness" doctrine...

Fairness Doctrine or net neutrality? The Fairness Doctrine has
been
dead
for quite a while. However, the FCC is now considering rules to
insure
net neutrality.

What is net neutrality? Did you forget that you entered into a
contract
with your ISP? If you don't like what one offers you can excercise
your
right to choose a different ISP. Or, you can negotiate with your ISP
to
provide you with better quality service.



The ISP really isn't the issue. They're a dime a dozen. The issue is
the
broadband providers. There are just a few of those. They're mostly
backbones, such as MCI, Spring, UUNET...

MCI no longer exists, see Verizon.

Sprin(g)t no longer exists, see AT&T.

UUNET no longer exists, see Verizon.

Besides UUNet never owned the long lines, the had modems at the POPs.

The misnomer of public and private traffic on the Internet blurs the
fact that it was all privately owned.

Try again.


Whatever... it's still the broadband providers not the ISP. Net
neutrality

Did you agree to terms and conditions when you obtained your Internet
connection? You entered into a private contract, at least in the US for
now. If you don't like the terms and conditions then don't pay for the
service.

Access to the Internet is not a right.

Buy a newspaper or a magazine.

This has nothing to do with my contract with my ISP. This has a lot to do
with whether or not ATT charges my ISP based on content, which will of
course, trickle down to my cost.

I'm not sure how to say it any more simply.

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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:53:02 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:31:23 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:19:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:35:13 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:23:01 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:04:26 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:47:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:36:10 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:33:42 -0700, jps wrote:

snipped

That woman looked like she was experiencing the onset of an anal
outburst.

I love Al and I love Alan Grayson. What's with Dems named Al?

I love Al Gore too, apart from how he runs campaigns.


How is it possible for a person to "love" any politician? (It seems
to be a sickening fetish similar to necrophilia.)

Love doesn't exist on your end of the political spectrum, unless you
count money.

You consider that a reasonable declaration? On a primal, nascent
level, I suspect that you don't really know what "love" is. You and
most others in this NG don't display "love" in any sense of the word.

What do you find wrong with it? Even "compassionate conservatives"
send fellow citizens to war based on known false information.

The only love the conservative movement displays is tough love, as in
"pull yourself up by your bootstraps cause there ain't nobody who
gives a **** once you're born."

I'm sure there's so much love to spread around on Sundays and then
Monday it's back to screwing others for your own.

Didn't you say you were in the insurance business?

I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs
persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any
speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist
persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other
side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question
I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any
reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager
that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that
my income stream is less than yours.)

Good for you!!!

Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation?

Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's
pre-emptive war of choice?

What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose
are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of
a six pack or two.

How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the
unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our
society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya?
Let's see the love, dude!

Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards
the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real
answers yet.

So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in
mine?

This is how it normally goes with you.

I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild
a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that
your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative
of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are
a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of
radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the
more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy.

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On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:41:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:53:02 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:31:23 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:19:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:35:13 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:23:01 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:04:26 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:47:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:36:10 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:33:42 -0700, jps wrote:

snipped

That woman looked like she was experiencing the onset of an anal
outburst.

I love Al and I love Alan Grayson. What's with Dems named Al?

I love Al Gore too, apart from how he runs campaigns.


How is it possible for a person to "love" any politician? (It seems
to be a sickening fetish similar to necrophilia.)

Love doesn't exist on your end of the political spectrum, unless you
count money.

You consider that a reasonable declaration? On a primal, nascent
level, I suspect that you don't really know what "love" is. You and
most others in this NG don't display "love" in any sense of the word.

What do you find wrong with it? Even "compassionate conservatives"
send fellow citizens to war based on known false information.

The only love the conservative movement displays is tough love, as in
"pull yourself up by your bootstraps cause there ain't nobody who
gives a **** once you're born."

I'm sure there's so much love to spread around on Sundays and then
Monday it's back to screwing others for your own.

Didn't you say you were in the insurance business?

I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs
persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any
speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist
persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other
side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question
I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any
reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager
that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that
my income stream is less than yours.)

Good for you!!!

Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation?

Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's
pre-emptive war of choice?

What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose
are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of
a six pack or two.

How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the
unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our
society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya?
Let's see the love, dude!

Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards
the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real
answers yet.

So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in
mine?

This is how it normally goes with you.

I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild
a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that
your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative
of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are
a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of
radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the
more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy.

I'm sure your family understands you.

On 10/25/09 10:36 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:41:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:53:02 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:31:23 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:19:19 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:35:13 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:23:01 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:04:26 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:47:45 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:36:10 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:33:42 -0700, wrote:

snipped

That woman looked like she was experiencing the onset of an anal
outburst.

I love Al and I love Alan Grayson. What's with Dems named Al?

I love Al Gore too, apart from how he runs campaigns.


How is it possible for a person to "love" any politician? (It seems
to be a sickening fetish similar to necrophilia.)

Love doesn't exist on your end of the political spectrum, unless you
count money.

You consider that a reasonable declaration? On a primal, nascent
level, I suspect that you don't really know what "love" is. You and
most others in this NG don't display "love" in any sense of the word.

What do you find wrong with it? Even "compassionate conservatives"
send fellow citizens to war based on known false information.

The only love the conservative movement displays is tough love, as in
"pull yourself up by your bootstraps cause there ain't nobody who
gives a **** once you're born."

I'm sure there's so much love to spread around on Sundays and then
Monday it's back to screwing others for your own.

Didn't you say you were in the insurance business?

I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs
persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any
speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist
persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other
side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question
I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any
reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager
that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that
my income stream is less than yours.)

Good for you!!!

Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation?

Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's
pre-emptive war of choice?

What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose
are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of
a six pack or two.

How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the
unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our
society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya?
Let's see the love, dude!

Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards
the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real
answers yet.

So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in
mine?

This is how it normally goes with you.

I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild
a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that
your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative
of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are
a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of
radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the
more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy.

I'm sure your family understands you.


You radical propagandist, you!

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:38:06 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/25/09 10:36 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:41:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:53:02 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:31:23 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:19:19 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:35:13 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:23:01 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:04:26 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:47:45 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:36:10 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:33:42 -0700, wrote:

snipped

That woman looked like she was experiencing the onset of an anal
outburst.

I love Al and I love Alan Grayson. What's with Dems named Al?

I love Al Gore too, apart from how he runs campaigns.


How is it possible for a person to "love" any politician? (It seems
to be a sickening fetish similar to necrophilia.)

Love doesn't exist on your end of the political spectrum, unless you
count money.

You consider that a reasonable declaration? On a primal, nascent
level, I suspect that you don't really know what "love" is. You and
most others in this NG don't display "love" in any sense of the word.

What do you find wrong with it? Even "compassionate conservatives"
send fellow citizens to war based on known false information.

The only love the conservative movement displays is tough love, as in
"pull yourself up by your bootstraps cause there ain't nobody who
gives a **** once you're born."

I'm sure there's so much love to spread around on Sundays and then
Monday it's back to screwing others for your own.

Didn't you say you were in the insurance business?

I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs
persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any
speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist
persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other
side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question
I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any
reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager
that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that
my income stream is less than yours.)

Good for you!!!

Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation?

Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's
pre-emptive war of choice?

What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose
are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of
a six pack or two.

How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the
unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our
society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya?
Let's see the love, dude!

Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards
the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real
answers yet.

So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in
mine?

This is how it normally goes with you.

I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild
a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that
your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative
of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are
a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of
radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the
more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy.

I'm sure your family understands you.


You radical propagandist, you!

A minor radical propagandist. I'm guessing he's also convinced GW
Bush was a compassionate conservative.

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:36:50 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:41:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:53:02 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:31:23 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:19:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:35:13 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:23:01 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:04:26 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:47:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:36:10 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:33:42 -0700, jps wrote:

snipped

That woman looked like she was experiencing the onset of an anal
outburst.

I love Al and I love Alan Grayson. What's with Dems named Al?

I love Al Gore too, apart from how he runs campaigns.


How is it possible for a person to "love" any politician? (It seems
to be a sickening fetish similar to necrophilia.)

Love doesn't exist on your end of the political spectrum, unless you
count money.

You consider that a reasonable declaration? On a primal, nascent
level, I suspect that you don't really know what "love" is. You and
most others in this NG don't display "love" in any sense of the word.

What do you find wrong with it? Even "compassionate conservatives"
send fellow citizens to war based on known false information.

The only love the conservative movement displays is tough love, as in
"pull yourself up by your bootstraps cause there ain't nobody who
gives a **** once you're born."

I'm sure there's so much love to spread around on Sundays and then
Monday it's back to screwing others for your own.

Didn't you say you were in the insurance business?

I'm in the IT business, too. I also volunteer to help special-needs
persons - this, without compensation, reward, or to assauge any
speculated, deep-seated feelings of guilt. I have and do assist
persons that most other people would avoid by walking on the other
side of the street. (Do you do the same?) I'll return to a question
I have asked of you before, which you failed to answer in any
reasonable manner. Who are you to judge another? (And I'll wager
that I'm compensated annually less than you are. I'll also wager that
my income stream is less than yours.)

Good for you!!!

Weren't we talking about love and party affiliation?

Are you a compassionate conservative and did you support GW Bush's
pre-emptive war of choice?

What percentage of the folks who "avoid" your friends do you suppose
are Republicans? I'd expect it to be larger by at least the weight of
a six pack or two.

How much "love" do you have, jps? Do you volunteer your time for the
unfortunate, the dispossessed, the disaffected, the pariah of our
society? Or do you defer to "government" to do your lovin' for ya?
Let's see the love, dude!

Changing the subject. I'd be pleased to discuss my efforts towards
the benefits of mankind but you haven't favored me with any real
answers yet.

So why should I invest in your inquiry when you haven't invested in
mine?

This is how it normally goes with you.

I think a review of who first toke the path less relevant would yeild
a contrary result. What is apparent to the sensible reader is that
your declarations are far removed from reality, are not representative
of the truth, and that by design. You are a propagandist and you are
a minor one at that. You're traipsing around with your basket of
radical blubs in remote newsgroups, far from the big-lights that the
more notorious radicals, such as Michael Moore, enjoy.

I'm sure your family understands you.

"toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend
that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have
problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if
you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic
and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as
short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs."

Enjoy.

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On 10/26/09 8:53 AM, wrote:

"toke the path"? I was bleary-eyed last night. I would recommend
that you avoid reading C.S. Lewis' "The Abolition of Man" if you have
problems comprehending what I write. Then again, I suspect that if
you or HK were able to comprehend "The Abolition of Man," any acerbic
and witty rebuttal that either of you issued against it would fall as
short as all of your other lackluster "blurbs."

Enjoy.


I suggest you send your tao out for dry cleaning, or at least change
your handle to *Overwrought Prose*