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Frogwatch[_2_] October 23rd 09 04:53 PM

Lunar caving
 
"Pits" found on the moon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-the-moon.html
Opening to what seems to be a lunar lava tube has been found. it
seems to be a pit over 80 m deep.
Considering that such lunar lava tubes are probably the key to
establishing a permanent lunar base, exploration of this should be a
high priority.
How to do this on the cheap?
Back in the early Gemini program, there were plans to use Gemini as a
way to get men on the moon as early as 1966 using a single man open
cockpit lander.
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/bygemoon.htm
A variation could be resurrected using the Falcon Dragon capsule or
the new NASA capsule launched atop either the Atlas V or the new large
SpaceX launcher.
This would be a very high risk mission with the person going from
earth to the moon and landing on the moon by himself and then
descending this deep hole by himself. The person would have to be
happy being alone for long times and comfortable descending deep pits.
PICK ME, PICK ME, I VOLUNTEER. Single handed sailor, experienced
vertical caver. This would be the ultimate caving trip, after doing
this, nothing else would ever be necessary. If things fail and death
is likely, well, just give me a small cylinder of CO. This could be
the ultimate contribution to humanity.

John H.[_9_] October 23rd 09 05:58 PM

Lunar caving
 
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

"Pits" found on the moon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-the-moon.html
Opening to what seems to be a lunar lava tube has been found. it
seems to be a pit over 80 m deep.
Considering that such lunar lava tubes are probably the key to
establishing a permanent lunar base, exploration of this should be a
high priority.
How to do this on the cheap?
Back in the early Gemini program, there were plans to use Gemini as a
way to get men on the moon as early as 1966 using a single man open
cockpit lander.
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/bygemoon.htm
A variation could be resurrected using the Falcon Dragon capsule or
the new NASA capsule launched atop either the Atlas V or the new large
SpaceX launcher.
This would be a very high risk mission with the person going from
earth to the moon and landing on the moon by himself and then
descending this deep hole by himself. The person would have to be
happy being alone for long times and comfortable descending deep pits.
PICK ME, PICK ME, I VOLUNTEER. Single handed sailor, experienced
vertical caver. This would be the ultimate caving trip, after doing
this, nothing else would ever be necessary. If things fail and death
is likely, well, just give me a small cylinder of CO. This could be
the ultimate contribution to humanity.


What's CO?

I'd rather have a case of a good Scotch.

thunder October 23rd 09 06:07 PM

Lunar caving
 
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:58:39 -0400, John H. wrote:


What's CO?


carbon monoxide

John H.[_9_] October 23rd 09 06:10 PM

Lunar caving
 
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:07:03 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:58:39 -0400, John H. wrote:


What's CO?


carbon monoxide


That's what I thought. But, what would be the joy in going to your
death with carbon monoxide? Did I miss something there?

Frogwatch[_2_] October 23rd 09 06:14 PM

Lunar caving
 
On Oct 23, 12:10*pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:07:03 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:58:39 -0400, John H. wrote:


What's CO?


carbon monoxide


That's what I thought. But, what would be the joy in going to your
death with carbon monoxide? Did I miss something there?


OK, CO and a sipper tube with good scotch. This would not be a suicide
mission.

Tosk October 23rd 09 06:15 PM

Lunar caving
 
In article ,
says...

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

"Pits" found on the moon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-the-moon.html
Opening to what seems to be a lunar lava tube has been found. it
seems to be a pit over 80 m deep.
Considering that such lunar lava tubes are probably the key to
establishing a permanent lunar base, exploration of this should be a
high priority.
How to do this on the cheap?
Back in the early Gemini program, there were plans to use Gemini as a
way to get men on the moon as early as 1966 using a single man open
cockpit lander.
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/bygemoon.htm
A variation could be resurrected using the Falcon Dragon capsule or
the new NASA capsule launched atop either the Atlas V or the new large
SpaceX launcher.
This would be a very high risk mission with the person going from
earth to the moon and landing on the moon by himself and then
descending this deep hole by himself. The person would have to be
happy being alone for long times and comfortable descending deep pits.
PICK ME, PICK ME, I VOLUNTEER. Single handed sailor, experienced
vertical caver. This would be the ultimate caving trip, after doing
this, nothing else would ever be necessary. If things fail and death
is likely, well, just give me a small cylinder of CO. This could be
the ultimate contribution to humanity.


What's CO?

I'd rather have a case of a good Scotch.


I suspect he is talking about Carbon Monoxide...

Loogypicker[_2_] October 23rd 09 07:04 PM

Lunar caving
 
On Oct 23, 11:58*am, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch





wrote:
"Pits" found on the moon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-skylight-on-t...
Opening to what seems to be a lunar lava tube has been found. *it
seems to be a pit over 80 m deep.
Considering that such lunar lava tubes are probably the key to
establishing a permanent lunar base, exploration of this should be a
high priority.
How to do this on the cheap?
Back in the early Gemini program, there were plans to use Gemini as a
way to get men on the moon as early as 1966 using a single man open
cockpit lander.
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/bygemoon.htm
*A variation could be resurrected using the Falcon Dragon capsule or
the new NASA capsule launched atop either the Atlas V or the new large
SpaceX launcher.
This would be a very high risk mission with the person going from
earth to the moon and landing on the moon by himself and then
descending this deep hole by himself. *The person would have to be
happy being alone for long times and comfortable descending deep pits.
PICK ME, PICK ME, I VOLUNTEER. *Single handed sailor, experienced
vertical caver. *This would be the ultimate caving trip, after doing
this, nothing else would ever be necessary. *If things fail and death
is likely, well, just give me a small cylinder of CO. *This could be
the ultimate contribution to humanity.


What's CO?

I'd rather have a case of a good Scotch.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Carbon Monoxide.

John H.[_9_] October 23rd 09 07:56 PM

Lunar caving
 
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:04:57 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 23, 11:58*am, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch





wrote:
"Pits" found on the moon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-skylight-on-t...
Opening to what seems to be a lunar lava tube has been found. *it
seems to be a pit over 80 m deep.
Considering that such lunar lava tubes are probably the key to
establishing a permanent lunar base, exploration of this should be a
high priority.
How to do this on the cheap?
Back in the early Gemini program, there were plans to use Gemini as a
way to get men on the moon as early as 1966 using a single man open
cockpit lander.
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/bygemoon.htm
*A variation could be resurrected using the Falcon Dragon capsule or
the new NASA capsule launched atop either the Atlas V or the new large
SpaceX launcher.
This would be a very high risk mission with the person going from
earth to the moon and landing on the moon by himself and then
descending this deep hole by himself. *The person would have to be
happy being alone for long times and comfortable descending deep pits.
PICK ME, PICK ME, I VOLUNTEER. *Single handed sailor, experienced
vertical caver. *This would be the ultimate caving trip, after doing
this, nothing else would ever be necessary. *If things fail and death
is likely, well, just give me a small cylinder of CO. *This could be
the ultimate contribution to humanity.


What's CO?

I'd rather have a case of a good Scotch.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Carbon Monoxide.


Yes, I know. The question is, "Why?"

Frogwatch[_2_] October 23rd 09 09:19 PM

Lunar caving
 
On Oct 23, 1:56*pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:04:57 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker



wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:58*am, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch


wrote:
"Pits" found on the moon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-skylight-on-t....
Opening to what seems to be a lunar lava tube has been found. *it
seems to be a pit over 80 m deep.
Considering that such lunar lava tubes are probably the key to
establishing a permanent lunar base, exploration of this should be a
high priority.
How to do this on the cheap?
Back in the early Gemini program, there were plans to use Gemini as a
way to get men on the moon as early as 1966 using a single man open
cockpit lander.
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/bygemoon.htm
*A variation could be resurrected using the Falcon Dragon capsule or
the new NASA capsule launched atop either the Atlas V or the new large
SpaceX launcher.
This would be a very high risk mission with the person going from
earth to the moon and landing on the moon by himself and then
descending this deep hole by himself. *The person would have to be
happy being alone for long times and comfortable descending deep pits..
PICK ME, PICK ME, I VOLUNTEER. *Single handed sailor, experienced
vertical caver. *This would be the ultimate caving trip, after doing
this, nothing else would ever be necessary. *If things fail and death
is likely, well, just give me a small cylinder of CO. *This could be
the ultimate contribution to humanity.


What's CO?


I'd rather have a case of a good Scotch.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Carbon Monoxide.


Yes, I know. The question is, "Why?"


If you cannot get back up the rope (maybe it breaks), or the one-man
lander fails to get back to its rendevous with the orbiter or
something similar, I'd want a pain free way to end it.

John H.[_9_] October 24th 09 12:03 AM

Lunar caving
 
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:19:28 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Oct 23, 1:56*pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:04:57 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker



wrote:
On Oct 23, 11:58*am, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:53:36 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch


wrote:
"Pits" found on the moon:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-skylight-on-t...
Opening to what seems to be a lunar lava tube has been found. *it
seems to be a pit over 80 m deep.
Considering that such lunar lava tubes are probably the key to
establishing a permanent lunar base, exploration of this should be a
high priority.
How to do this on the cheap?
Back in the early Gemini program, there were plans to use Gemini as a
way to get men on the moon as early as 1966 using a single man open
cockpit lander.
http://www.astronautix.com/articles/bygemoon.htm
*A variation could be resurrected using the Falcon Dragon capsule or
the new NASA capsule launched atop either the Atlas V or the new large
SpaceX launcher.
This would be a very high risk mission with the person going from
earth to the moon and landing on the moon by himself and then
descending this deep hole by himself. *The person would have to be
happy being alone for long times and comfortable descending deep pits.
PICK ME, PICK ME, I VOLUNTEER. *Single handed sailor, experienced
vertical caver. *This would be the ultimate caving trip, after doing
this, nothing else would ever be necessary. *If things fail and death
is likely, well, just give me a small cylinder of CO. *This could be
the ultimate contribution to humanity.


What's CO?


I'd rather have a case of a good Scotch.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Carbon Monoxide.


Yes, I know. The question is, "Why?"


If you cannot get back up the rope (maybe it breaks), or the one-man
lander fails to get back to its rendevous with the orbiter or
something similar, I'd want a pain free way to end it.


OK. But, I'd never heard of CO being used in that fashion. A good
Scotch would seem to be a much nicer way to go. It may take a case
though - or at least a few bottles.

Tom Shortwave knows a lot about BAC. How many bottles of Scotch would
it take, Tom? For say a 200lb'er.


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