On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:57:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



I have ridden on F31 tris twice and although they are truly fast,
they also seemed wet in any chop with the amas throwing spray up onto
us. Like most sailboats, they are subject to the vagaries of weather
although the normal 15 hp outboard on an F31 will push it at 10 kts.
How would it handle in nasty conditions? I dunno although if weather
was already bad, I'd rather be on my monohull sailboat with its 2500
lbs of ballast. Once the weather is bad, the tri isn't going to go
any faster than a monohull downwind and not much faster into the waves
either.
HArry is right that the powerboat can outrun the nasty but the Tri
should also be able to outrun it. The monohull sailboat (except the
Mac26, a special case) cannot outrun the nasty weather and is built to
take it. A major advantage of a tri is the beachability where they
can be taken right up to a beach or into extremely shallow water where
you have safety.
I believe that if you integrate safety over the entire use of a
sailboat, you would actually find that a trimaran with its ability to
outrun weather and go into shallow water is probably safer than a
displacement hull sailboat. Likewise, if a Mac 26 is used properly
(it is not an offshore boat) it is also safer than a monohull sailboat
AND safer than a powerboat.
However, neither the F27 nor the F31 strike me as a good fishing
platform. Sailing is work and the faster you go the more work it is.
Can you really enjoy fishing and tending sails at the same time? Like
most sailboats, the cockpits of the Farrier Tris are small for good
offshore ability making it difficult to fish from.

Agree with everything you said. The Telstar amas are fishable, and
quite a bit different than the Farriers'.
The sails are just for getting there. I won't fish under sail.
That just ain't right.
Be like drinking beer with coffee shooters.

--Vic

On 10/24/09 9:25 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:55:02 -0400, H the K
wrote:



Decently powered monohulls properly designed for offshore use tend to go
where you point them, e.g., in a straight line towards shore if
necessary. Sailboats, all sailboats, are much more dependent upon the
vagaries of nature.

If I am going fishing 20-30 miles offshore and my choices were a 27'
deep vee or power cat, or a sailboat...well...I'd hop on the powerboat,
knowing my chances of outrunning an incoming storm were far greater with
a boat that can do 30 knots and head straight in.


Nah, the tri just quickly floats in on the pressure wave in front of
the storm (-:
But aside from running from weather, and fishing in uncomfortable
conditions you probably don't want to fish in, these tris are better
sea boats than any open boat. They just plain don't sink.
A 24' DLX Carolina Skiff would do for going out there only when you're
pretty sure seas will stay fairly flat. Pretty limiting.
These Telstars easily handle 8 foot seas if required.
I know which boat I'd rather be aboard should I get caught in that.
And they provide a lot of area to fish on if it's not too bumpy.
BTW, the Telstar is supposed to power at 15 knots with a 40hp OB.
Don't think I'd want to weight it down with one though.
Last thing I want is a gas-guzzling 27' power boat.
Not in my cards for many reasons.

--Vic


I wouldn't deliberately go out on the ocean in eight foot seas on any
small boat.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:57:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



I have ridden on F31 tris twice and although they are truly fast,
they also seemed wet in any chop with the amas throwing spray up onto
us. Like most sailboats, they are subject to the vagaries of weather
although the normal 15 hp outboard on an F31 will push it at 10 kts.
How would it handle in nasty conditions? I dunno although if weather
was already bad, I'd rather be on my monohull sailboat with its 2500
lbs of ballast. Once the weather is bad, the tri isn't going to go
any faster than a monohull downwind and not much faster into the waves
either.
HArry is right that the powerboat can outrun the nasty but the Tri
should also be able to outrun it. The monohull sailboat (except the
Mac26, a special case) cannot outrun the nasty weather and is built to
take it. A major advantage of a tri is the beachability where they
can be taken right up to a beach or into extremely shallow water where
you have safety.
I believe that if you integrate safety over the entire use of a
sailboat, you would actually find that a trimaran with its ability to
outrun weather and go into shallow water is probably safer than a
displacement hull sailboat. Likewise, if a Mac 26 is used properly
(it is not an offshore boat) it is also safer than a monohull sailboat
AND safer than a powerboat.
However, neither the F27 nor the F31 strike me as a good fishing
platform. Sailing is work and the faster you go the more work it is.
Can you really enjoy fishing and tending sails at the same time? Like
most sailboats, the cockpits of the Farrier Tris are small for good
offshore ability making it difficult to fish from.

Agree with everything you said. The Telstar amas are fishable, and
quite a bit different than the Farriers'.
The sails are just for getting there. I won't fish under sail.
That just ain't right.
Be like drinking beer with coffee shooters.

--Vic

Trolling with a mono hull is good stuff Vic. 3-6 kts is a pretty good speed
for many fish.
Behind a go-fast tri, you might just reel in a set of fish lips. Ha!