"Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ff604fe8-7d01-4bdd-99ef-
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On Oct 27, 9:01 pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all
the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

Bull****. He spent two and a half hours with "friendly" media two
Mondays ago, behind closed doors, only with invited media. He has
reportedly spend only about two hours with his own hand picked
general... That is a fact. I am getting sick of being called a liar when
the facts are so accessible. Just because you don't like them, doesn't
mean they aren't true. Don't be a Harry..

And, previously, he spent some time at George Will's house with right-wing
pundits.

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care
less...
For starters...

Campaigning? Umm... the election was over last year.

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.


The fact is Obermann, Maddow, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, New York Lies, Daily
Garble, and dozens of other minority media outlets made a big stink when
on the rare occasion Bush did play golf but seem to have no problem when
Obama does, even though he does it much more. My point is the media
double standard, I am not attacking your man Obama here directly. You
keep talking about Hannity and Rush. I don't know anything about Rush,
but Hannity "always" has representatives for both sides of an issue
available, something MSNBC and the rest are afraid to do... You should
watch once in a while, just like I watch Maddow and the CNN crew.. Just
can't watch Obermann, can't hear him anyway over the wail of my gaydar
and the smug attitude..

Hannity? That's who you're defending? Now that's funny.

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"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 27, 9:01 pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...



On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all
the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less...
For starters...

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.

Loogy, in the past month I may have listened to Rush and Hannity for a
total of two hours.

From all appearances, you listen to them every day.

Trust me, one does not need Rush or Hannity to see the Obama dickups.

And, your comment above is BS.


All you have to do is watch Olbermann and Maddow. They slam Obama all the
time. Hard to believe, but it's true.

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and
balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President Bush's
golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So why aren't
they making the same comparision for President Obama who has, as of
today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of his
Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration under
the same conditions?
Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave
up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051302783.html




It's totally fair. That guy was an idiot (or so I'm told).


OR SO YOU'RE TOLD. I knew you were a sock puppet. Thanks for admitting it.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:36:52 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:19:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:40:04 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:42:51 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

Frankly, I honestly don't care either. However, again to be fair and
balanced, the media and the Left made a big deal about President
Bush's golf outings during times of economic stress and two wars. So
why aren't they making the same comparision for President Obama who
has, as of today, made more golf outings in the first nine months of
his Administration than Bush did in three years of his administration
under the same conditions?

Do you really think it's fair to compare Obama with some idiot who gave
up golf "in solidarity" with dying soldiers?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2008/05/13/
AR2008051302783.html

Yes I do. He gave it up direcly because of the criticism.

Call it what you will. I don't care one way or the other as I said.

What's fair is fair.

Well, to be fair then, I can't find anyone "making a big deal" of Bush's
golfing. I do remember the press making a big deal about Bush playing
guitar while New Orleans flooded. It also seems a little silly to be
comparing golf outings of someone who does golf, with someone who gave it
up, for whatever reason.

How about brush clearing? I'm sure Bush has spent much more time
clearing brush than Obama has.

How about basketball games in the middle of the day? "Date" nights.

The problem is that the liberal media, and most liberals, can't live
by their own rules. As Saul Alinsky said: "Make the enemy live up to
their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no
more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to
Christianity.:

Fair is fair. :)

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:52:53 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:


More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Heh - oh yeah - always an excuse. "The Vietcong won't attack - it's
TET".

Seem like I heard that one before - twice.

On Oct 28, 11:53*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:01:46 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Oct 27, 9:01*pm, Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:04:25 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs....

What? You have a problem that he didn't "cut and run?"

No, I have a problem that he has spent more time behind closed doors
with friendly media than with his generals in the field...

That's another lie you've been sucked into. Why do you guys instantly
believe entertainers such as Hannity and Rush?

More time
campaigning than with his generals in the field, more time playing golf
in 9 months than Bush did in three years and the left could care less....
For starters...

And that, put out their by your gods Hannity and Rush is VERY
intellectually dishonest. Obama has played more golf, because Bush
didn't play much golf. BUT, Bush had MUCH more vacation time by now
than Obama.

Loogy, in the past month I may have listened to Rush and Hannity for a
total of two hours.

I wonder how it is then that you can parrot almost exactly what
they've said every single day?

From all appearances, you listen to them every day.

I listen to Hannity every evening on my drive home. I like listening
to the latest lies he's telling.

Trust me, one does not need Rush or Hannity to see the Obama dickups.

Yes, I know, everything liberal is bad, everything conservative is
good.

And, your comment above is BS.- Hide quoted text -

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Cite?

On Oct 28, 11:57*am, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:23:02 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:03*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Oct 28, 8:59*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Oct 27, 7:04*pm, Tosk wrote:

American soldiers killed while Obama campaigns for democrats in New
Jersey. Disgusting how the left has no problem with this, after all the
crap they gave Bush.. Double standard and tingles up their legs.....

Honest Scott, in your quest to **** on everything not conservative,
you're beginning to sound foolish.

Do you not remember the minority media during the Bush admin. Just
want to see some balanced ideas. This double standard is ridiculous
and dangerous for our country. And yes, I remember clearly Obama
saying clearly "I will listen to my generals in the field" during the
campaign, and clearly, he is not, that is important. Much more
important than Scooter Libby forgetting a date.

I'll tell you a double standard. John claims that anything that
happened during the Bush administration is of now, gone. And yes, he
IS listening to his generals. He met for 25 minutes recently regarding
how best to move forward.

You've read my 'claim' several times. Now you lie about it. That's not
what I've said. Apparently you still don't understand, or you do
understand but can't face it.- Hide quoted text -

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John, you know good and well that you've stated here several times
that it's all in Obama's hands now, we can't blame anything on Bush.
It's really really ignorant of someone to bury their head in the sand
so far that they can't say anything good about a liberal or anything
bad about a conservative.

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 11:52 am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?


You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???

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On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?


You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???



Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care
about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or
inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find
himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags
have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america."

"H the K" wrote in message
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On 10/28/09 4:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 11:52 am, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:24:16 -0700, Jack wrote:
More than fair. The idiot in office now won't make a decision, but
still plays tons of golf while soldiers die. WTF!?!

The need isn't to hurry. The need is to get the decision right. Any
troop increases won't be needed until the spring, as the winter weather
in Afghanistan pretty much shuts the Taliban down.

Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers. Besides, what better
time to hit them than when they are inactive?


You want more dead soldiers and grieving families because of a rushed
decision???



Right-wing warmongers don't give a damn about casualties. All they care
about is the projection of military force, no matter how ill-advised or
inappropriate. Further, what the righties want is for Obama to find
himself in the same morass Bush himself into. These right-wing scumbags
have an agenda, but it isn't "let's do what is good for america."


All of which is pretty shocking. It's a scary day when Newt is the voice of
reason in the party.

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