On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:16:36 -0500, wrote:



Your thoughtful missive is certainly worthy of contemplation, Vic.

Nah.

A
Thesaurus does have its place, and I do use a thesaurus on occasion.
But, I personally don't have the inclination to invest time rummaging
through a thesaurus to post notes in rec.boats. This is more of a
distraction for me. I suppose there are better distractions. But,
some of the the posts in this NG are rather witty and informative, and
except for the the racalcitrant progressive remonstration (sorry),
these can make for a pleasant diversion.

I tossed my thesaurus when I found this group.
Find plenty of new words here.

--Vic

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:13:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:40:44 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:00:27 -0400, H the K
wrote:

snipped for posterity

And where do you stand exactly in the class struggle, Harry? You
inarguably have made it quite clear that you deem it to be an insult
to be cast with the lower classes. What style of progressivism do you
subscribe to, Harry? One of elitism?



You apparently are not a careful reader.

I assume we are not discussing Marxism here.

I stand "exactly" with the middle class, with those who are trying to
maintain their standing in it, and with those who are trying to achieve
it. I believe in extending a hand to those in the lower socioeconomic
classes who are *working* to achieve "middleclassdom." That "hand"
should include a way to pay for decent, readily available health care
insurance/coverage for themselves and their families, good public
schools, safety on the job, job retraining if they need it, et cetera.

I believe this country rises or falls on the success of the middle
class. I don't believe a right-wing financial oligarchy serves this
country. I believe that economic policy should promote expansion of the
middle class.


This is really rather depressing. If there is an attitude that can
subdue the spirit of individuality and a charter that denies the
individual the mobility to do with his life as he pleases, this screed
embodies it. What was once a burgeoning optimism in the youth of a
foundling nation in whose design lay the seminal notion of the
empowerment of the individual, there is now a gloomy surrender to the
premise that the individual must subordinate his potential to the
state, for the good of the state and the security of all. The
pretense of a duty to the state by the individual for the common good
is nothing more than a perfidious ploy to bridal any passion for
individuality and personal responsibility. The extended hand of the
collective is the hand that robs the individual, and it serves as a
cruel metaphor for the villiany of unbounded aspirations. It is an
unwarranted disdain for the successes of the inspired individual that
drives this pernicious philosophy, a comportment that disguises itself
as dutiful compassion. Fortunately, that 'compassion' has been
exposed in this thread for what it is - envy, superciliousness,
condescending patronage, contempt, and hate. Describing one's loyalty
to the middle class does not palliate a personal loathing of the less
fortunate, and it does not elevate the world of insults that defines
you.

Bye now.

Harry has been exposed yet again for the self centered, self indulgent
piece of crap he really is... But what's new, most of us have known that
for years..

According to our irascible JPS, I'm the self-centered, self-indulgent
piece of refuse. I wouldn't want to deny him the pleasure of
castigating me, now.

There's room for more than one self-centered, self-indulgent piece of
refuse in rec.boats, clearly. You and Jim-the-arse are both here,
aren't you? Your brains seem about equally developed.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:52:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:13:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:40:44 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:00:27 -0400, H the K
wrote:

snipped for posterity

And where do you stand exactly in the class struggle, Harry? You
inarguably have made it quite clear that you deem it to be an insult
to be cast with the lower classes. What style of progressivism do you
subscribe to, Harry? One of elitism?



You apparently are not a careful reader.

I assume we are not discussing Marxism here.

I stand "exactly" with the middle class, with those who are trying to
maintain their standing in it, and with those who are trying to achieve
it. I believe in extending a hand to those in the lower socioeconomic
classes who are *working* to achieve "middleclassdom." That "hand"
should include a way to pay for decent, readily available health care
insurance/coverage for themselves and their families, good public
schools, safety on the job, job retraining if they need it, et cetera.

I believe this country rises or falls on the success of the middle
class. I don't believe a right-wing financial oligarchy serves this
country. I believe that economic policy should promote expansion of the
middle class.


This is really rather depressing. If there is an attitude that can
subdue the spirit of individuality and a charter that denies the
individual the mobility to do with his life as he pleases, this screed
embodies it. What was once a burgeoning optimism in the youth of a
foundling nation in whose design lay the seminal notion of the
empowerment of the individual, there is now a gloomy surrender to the
premise that the individual must subordinate his potential to the
state, for the good of the state and the security of all. The
pretense of a duty to the state by the individual for the common good
is nothing more than a perfidious ploy to bridal any passion for
individuality and personal responsibility. The extended hand of the
collective is the hand that robs the individual, and it serves as a
cruel metaphor for the villiany of unbounded aspirations. It is an
unwarranted disdain for the successes of the inspired individual that
drives this pernicious philosophy, a comportment that disguises itself
as dutiful compassion. Fortunately, that 'compassion' has been
exposed in this thread for what it is - envy, superciliousness,
condescending patronage, contempt, and hate. Describing one's loyalty
to the middle class does not palliate a personal loathing of the less
fortunate, and it does not elevate the world of insults that defines
you.

Bye now.

Harry has been exposed yet again for the self centered, self indulgent
piece of crap he really is... But what's new, most of us have known that
for years..

According to our irascible JPS, I'm the self-centered, self-indulgent
piece of refuse. I wouldn't want to deny him the pleasure of
castigating me, now.

There's room for more than one self-centered, self-indulgent piece of
refuse in rec.boats, clearly. You and Jim-the-arse are both here,
aren't you? Your brains seem about equally developed.

I'm surprised that you possess the charity to compliment Jim so
graciously.

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wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:52:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:13:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:40:44 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:00:27 -0400, H the K
wrote:

snipped for posterity
And where do you stand exactly in the class struggle, Harry? You
inarguably have made it quite clear that you deem it to be an insult
to be cast with the lower classes. What style of progressivism do you
subscribe to, Harry? One of elitism?


You apparently are not a careful reader.

I assume we are not discussing Marxism here.

I stand "exactly" with the middle class, with those who are trying to
maintain their standing in it, and with those who are trying to achieve
it. I believe in extending a hand to those in the lower socioeconomic
classes who are *working* to achieve "middleclassdom." That "hand"
should include a way to pay for decent, readily available health care
insurance/coverage for themselves and their families, good public
schools, safety on the job, job retraining if they need it, et cetera.

I believe this country rises or falls on the success of the middle
class. I don't believe a right-wing financial oligarchy serves this
country. I believe that economic policy should promote expansion of the
middle class.

This is really rather depressing. If there is an attitude that can
subdue the spirit of individuality and a charter that denies the
individual the mobility to do with his life as he pleases, this screed
embodies it. What was once a burgeoning optimism in the youth of a
foundling nation in whose design lay the seminal notion of the
empowerment of the individual, there is now a gloomy surrender to the
premise that the individual must subordinate his potential to the
state, for the good of the state and the security of all. The
pretense of a duty to the state by the individual for the common good
is nothing more than a perfidious ploy to bridal any passion for
individuality and personal responsibility. The extended hand of the
collective is the hand that robs the individual, and it serves as a
cruel metaphor for the villiany of unbounded aspirations. It is an
unwarranted disdain for the successes of the inspired individual that
drives this pernicious philosophy, a comportment that disguises itself
as dutiful compassion. Fortunately, that 'compassion' has been
exposed in this thread for what it is - envy, superciliousness,
condescending patronage, contempt, and hate. Describing one's loyalty
to the middle class does not palliate a personal loathing of the less
fortunate, and it does not elevate the world of insults that defines
you.

Bye now.
Harry has been exposed yet again for the self centered, self indulgent
piece of crap he really is... But what's new, most of us have known that
for years..
According to our irascible JPS, I'm the self-centered, self-indulgent
piece of refuse. I wouldn't want to deny him the pleasure of
castigating me, now.
There's room for more than one self-centered, self-indulgent piece of
refuse in rec.boats, clearly. You and Jim-the-arse are both here,
aren't you? Your brains seem about equally developed.

I'm surprised that you possess the charity to compliment Jim so
graciously.

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As disgusting as it sounds,I think JPS is warm for my form. wink wink

On 10/30/09 12:52 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:13:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:40:44 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:00:27 -0400, H the
wrote:

snipped for posterity

And where do you stand exactly in the class struggle, Harry? You
inarguably have made it quite clear that you deem it to be an insult
to be cast with the lower classes. What style of progressivism do you
subscribe to, Harry? One of elitism?



You apparently are not a careful reader.

I assume we are not discussing Marxism here.

I stand "exactly" with the middle class, with those who are trying to
maintain their standing in it, and with those who are trying to achieve
it. I believe in extending a hand to those in the lower socioeconomic
classes who are *working* to achieve "middleclassdom." That "hand"
should include a way to pay for decent, readily available health care
insurance/coverage for themselves and their families, good public
schools, safety on the job, job retraining if they need it, et cetera.

I believe this country rises or falls on the success of the middle
class. I don't believe a right-wing financial oligarchy serves this
country. I believe that economic policy should promote expansion of the
middle class.


This is really rather depressing. If there is an attitude that can
subdue the spirit of individuality and a charter that denies the
individual the mobility to do with his life as he pleases, this screed
embodies it. What was once a burgeoning optimism in the youth of a
foundling nation in whose design lay the seminal notion of the
empowerment of the individual, there is now a gloomy surrender to the
premise that the individual must subordinate his potential to the
state, for the good of the state and the security of all. The
pretense of a duty to the state by the individual for the common good
is nothing more than a perfidious ploy to bridal any passion for
individuality and personal responsibility. The extended hand of the
collective is the hand that robs the individual, and it serves as a
cruel metaphor for the villiany of unbounded aspirations. It is an
unwarranted disdain for the successes of the inspired individual that
drives this pernicious philosophy, a comportment that disguises itself
as dutiful compassion. Fortunately, that 'compassion' has been
exposed in this thread for what it is - envy, superciliousness,
condescending patronage, contempt, and hate. Describing one's loyalty
to the middle class does not palliate a personal loathing of the less
fortunate, and it does not elevate the world of insults that defines
you.

Bye now.

Harry has been exposed yet again for the self centered, self indulgent
piece of crap he really is... But what's new, most of us have known that
for years..

According to our irascible JPS, I'm the self-centered, self-indulgent
piece of refuse. I wouldn't want to deny him the pleasure of
castigating me, now.

There's room for more than one self-centered, self-indulgent piece of
refuse in rec.boats, clearly. You and Jim-the-arse are both here,
aren't you? Your brains seem about equally developed.


According to one of the right-wing idiots, I'm self-indulgent because I
stand with the middle class, with those who are trying to
maintain their standing in it, and with those who are trying to achieve
it.

Well, that makes sense. :)

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:57:16 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:52:57 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:13:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:40:44 -0400, Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:00:27 -0400, H the K
wrote:

snipped for posterity

And where do you stand exactly in the class struggle, Harry? You
inarguably have made it quite clear that you deem it to be an insult
to be cast with the lower classes. What style of progressivism do you
subscribe to, Harry? One of elitism?



You apparently are not a careful reader.

I assume we are not discussing Marxism here.

I stand "exactly" with the middle class, with those who are trying to
maintain their standing in it, and with those who are trying to achieve
it. I believe in extending a hand to those in the lower socioeconomic
classes who are *working* to achieve "middleclassdom." That "hand"
should include a way to pay for decent, readily available health care
insurance/coverage for themselves and their families, good public
schools, safety on the job, job retraining if they need it, et cetera.

I believe this country rises or falls on the success of the middle
class. I don't believe a right-wing financial oligarchy serves this
country. I believe that economic policy should promote expansion of the
middle class.


This is really rather depressing. If there is an attitude that can
subdue the spirit of individuality and a charter that denies the
individual the mobility to do with his life as he pleases, this screed
embodies it. What was once a burgeoning optimism in the youth of a
foundling nation in whose design lay the seminal notion of the
empowerment of the individual, there is now a gloomy surrender to the
premise that the individual must subordinate his potential to the
state, for the good of the state and the security of all. The
pretense of a duty to the state by the individual for the common good
is nothing more than a perfidious ploy to bridal any passion for
individuality and personal responsibility. The extended hand of the
collective is the hand that robs the individual, and it serves as a
cruel metaphor for the villiany of unbounded aspirations. It is an
unwarranted disdain for the successes of the inspired individual that
drives this pernicious philosophy, a comportment that disguises itself
as dutiful compassion. Fortunately, that 'compassion' has been
exposed in this thread for what it is - envy, superciliousness,
condescending patronage, contempt, and hate. Describing one's loyalty
to the middle class does not palliate a personal loathing of the less
fortunate, and it does not elevate the world of insults that defines
you.

Bye now.

Harry has been exposed yet again for the self centered, self indulgent
piece of crap he really is... But what's new, most of us have known that
for years..

According to our irascible JPS, I'm the self-centered, self-indulgent
piece of refuse. I wouldn't want to deny him the pleasure of
castigating me, now.

There's room for more than one self-centered, self-indulgent piece of
refuse in rec.boats, clearly. You and Jim-the-arse are both here,
aren't you? Your brains seem about equally developed.

I'm surprised that you possess the charity to compliment Jim so
graciously.

Graciousness is among my strong suits, thanks for noticing.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:07:13 -0400, Jim wrote:

plagiarizing.

Plagerism, I believe, but whatever.

Casady