On 11/1/09 10:38 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:08:51 -0500, H the
wrote:


Your hospital is going to write off that bill and also use it to sock it
to paying customers.

They won't give up on the bill until it is clear they are not getting
paid, then they sell it to a collection agency for whatever they can
get.


Which in no way conflicts with my posit. They will use the unpaid debt
to sock it to paying customers.

In article ,
says...

He's has quite the potty mouth...considering it's Sunday & all.
His 'magic undies' must be a couple sizes too small.

Did you teach your son to treat others in a bigoted and intolerant
manner that you do? Your behavior is disgusting Don.

On 11/1/09 11:20 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

He's has quite the potty mouth...considering it's Sunday& all.
His 'magic undies' must be a couple sizes too small.

Did you teach your son to treat others in a bigoted and intolerant
manner that you do? Your behavior is disgusting Don.

Pot, kettle, black.

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:05:43 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 10/31/09 10:36 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Oct 31, 10:26 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:08:35 -0400, H the
wrote:



On 10/31/09 9:30 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:56:48 -0400, H the
wrote:

On 10/31/09 3:41 PM, Tosk wrote:

When I was in the hospital last week one doctor all but suggested that I
give a fake name and ss number knowing I was uninsured. He said and I
quote "everybody does it"... But no, I will be paying the 26,000 dollars
for the next twenty years because I am not a thief...

I figured you were among the uninsured. Really. But you are lying about
the doctor, of course, because reputable hospitals ask for photo IDs,
and you'd have to produce your driver's license.

"Everybody does it" said Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc.

Yeah, really. And the uninsured little **** ran up a $26,000 tab, which
he cannot pay because...well, he's unemployable. So that means his tab
will be spread out over paying customers and their insurance companies.

I wonder what he's planning to do if and when his kid has a serious
medical problem. Sell off her motorbike?

I don't think I'd have my kid on a motocross bike without insurance.
Can't believe how much my kids cost with insurance. Between
deductibles, co-pays, limits it gets expensive quickly.

Son has been through muscle tear and a bone chip, daughter through
shin splint therapy. Last year I spent $8K out of pocket for the
whole family. That's in addition to the $15K for medical and dental
coverage.

OK, for the last time, my kid is insured.. Period.. The division we
race in doesn't allow otherwise, and the local school system has the
same policy... So **** you and your cowardly little bitch friends,
liars all of you, go **** yourself...

snerk Tork, er, Tusk, er, whatever, must have bought one of those
school accident policies...assuming they still sell them.

How the hell are the kids insured and he isn't? If they're on his
wife's policy, then he could be too. Just saving $ by putting it on
the taxpayers? What's the deal, motoboy?

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:42:00 -0400, wrote:


The up side is the pharmacy computer will have your prescription as
soon as the doctor enters it, they won't be giving you incompatible
drugs and billing will be easier. Your x rays and other tests will be
available wherever you go and you might not have to get as many
duplicate tests.
The bad side, you will have less privacy. Your employer may be able to
see whether you really were sick and the DMV will know what you are
taking so that pain pill prescription might show up on the cop's
laptop while he is following you.
I imagine if you want to send NetDetective $69.95 you can get
anyone's records.

Yep. There is no privacy.
BTW, employers have always had the right to make you prove you were at
the doctor when that's how it works for sick pay compensation.
The computerization of medical records is a good thing.
My doc is computerized and carries a laptop. Checking in is simple.
Insurance card and picture id, and a short form asking if any health
condition has changed since the last visit.
Took my wife to a new OB/GYN a few weeks ago and had to fill out about
8 pages of forms. Major hospital group - Lutheran General in Park
Ridge, Il. It's highly rated. I picked it because of good outcomes
for a range of ailments, and fewer scalpels sewed up in incisions.
Wrote our address and her SSN multiple times on multiple pages.
Ignoring the inefficiency of the forms, I figured it could be excused
because she was a new patient.
Then while we were doing the forms a patient came in and was given the
same form package. She protested that she had already filled them in
many times, but the front desk clerk insisted it be done.
When my wife was called to her doc I chatted with the other woman.
She was ****ed about the forms. She'd been coming to this doc for 10
years and the doc had delivered her 3 children.
But she liked the doc, so she put up with it.
Behind the front desk floor-to-ceiling open-front cabinets were
visible, and I saw nurses searching them, and pulling stuff in and
out.
The file cabinets are suspended on ceiling tracks, so one layer
can be swung away to reveal another
Full of manilla folders. Manilla folders now containing my address,
phone number, group id insurance number, and SSN about 4 times
each.
Might have that 10 year patient's stuff 40 times.
Or maybe they get archived to a cave in Nevada to keep the fork lift
guys employed. Those cabinets were overflowing.
I bet they don't do that in modern countries.
But modern countries don't have a sixth of their economies tied up in
the medical and insurance industries.

--Vic

On 11/1/09 12:39 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:05:43 -0500, H the
wrote:

On 10/31/09 10:36 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Oct 31, 10:26 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:08:35 -0400, H the
wrote:



On 10/31/09 9:30 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:56:48 -0400, H the
wrote:

On 10/31/09 3:41 PM, Tosk wrote:

When I was in the hospital last week one doctor all but suggested that I
give a fake name and ss number knowing I was uninsured. He said and I
quote "everybody does it"... But no, I will be paying the 26,000 dollars
for the next twenty years because I am not a thief...

I figured you were among the uninsured. Really. But you are lying about
the doctor, of course, because reputable hospitals ask for photo IDs,
and you'd have to produce your driver's license.

"Everybody does it" said Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc.

Yeah, really. And the uninsured little **** ran up a $26,000 tab, which
he cannot pay because...well, he's unemployable. So that means his tab
will be spread out over paying customers and their insurance companies.

I wonder what he's planning to do if and when his kid has a serious
medical problem. Sell off her motorbike?

I don't think I'd have my kid on a motocross bike without insurance.
Can't believe how much my kids cost with insurance. Between
deductibles, co-pays, limits it gets expensive quickly.

Son has been through muscle tear and a bone chip, daughter through
shin splint therapy. Last year I spent $8K out of pocket for the
whole family. That's in addition to the $15K for medical and dental
coverage.

OK, for the last time, my kid is insured.. Period.. The division we
race in doesn't allow otherwise, and the local school system has the
same policy... So **** you and your cowardly little bitch friends,
liars all of you, go **** yourself...

snerk Tork, er, Tusk, er, whatever, must have bought one of those
school accident policies...assuming they still sell them.

How the hell are the kids insured and he isn't? If they're on his
wife's policy, then he could be too. Just saving $ by putting it on
the taxpayers? What's the deal, motoboy?



I really don't know, but I vaguely recall that when I was a kid, there
was some sort of "accident policy" your parents could buy through the
schools that paid for or helped pay for medical care related to injuries
(as opposed to illness). That's why I suggested the school accident
policy, if they still exist. Or maybe the bittykid motorbike racers
offer something.

Whatever it is, the little turd has a lot of nerve speaking out against
health care insurance reform when he has no cards in the game. You'd
think that someone who will be stiffing a hospital out of $26,000 would
be first in line to obtain a "public option" policy.

A year or two ago, when he was whining about the high cost of
prescriptions, I offered to put him in touch with someone who could take
care of that problem for him. Apparently he wasn't interested in a
"cure," but only the ability to whine about it.

He's a real piece of work.

In article ,
says...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...

He's has quite the potty mouth...considering it's Sunday & all.
His 'magic undies' must be a couple sizes too small.

Did you teach your son to treat others in a bigoted and intolerant
manner that you do? Your behavior is disgusting Don.


Too ****ing bad..anyone that trashes my family gets it back...and that
includes you asshole.
You don't like it... head on 'over there'.

You don't like being made fun of do you? You don't like having your
principles questioned do you? You don't like having your parental
capabilities questioned do you?

You sure can dish out the trash talk but you have a very difficult time
when it is thrown back at you.

And, just an observation. You could have said the same thing to me and
it wouldn't have bothered me because it isn't true.

On 11/1/09 2:58 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

wrote in message
. ..
In ,
says...

He's has quite the potty mouth...considering it's Sunday& all.
His 'magic undies' must be a couple sizes too small.

Did you teach your son to treat others in a bigoted and intolerant
manner that you do? Your behavior is disgusting Don.


Too ****ing bad..anyone that trashes my family gets it back...and that
includes you asshole.
You don't like it... head on 'over there'.

You don't like being made fun of do you? You don't like having your
principles questioned do you? You don't like having your parental
capabilities questioned do you?

You sure can dish out the trash talk but you have a very difficult time
when it is thrown back at you.

And, just an observation. You could have said the same thing to me and
it wouldn't have bothered me because it isn't true.


Are you saying that in your family, bigoted assholedom ends with you?
Good for your wife.

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:02:27 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/1/09 2:58 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

wrote in message
. ..
In ,
says...

He's has quite the potty mouth...considering it's Sunday& all.
His 'magic undies' must be a couple sizes too small.

Did you teach your son to treat others in a bigoted and intolerant
manner that you do? Your behavior is disgusting Don.


Too ****ing bad..anyone that trashes my family gets it back...and that
includes you asshole.
You don't like it... head on 'over there'.

You don't like being made fun of do you? You don't like having your
principles questioned do you? You don't like having your parental
capabilities questioned do you?

You sure can dish out the trash talk but you have a very difficult time
when it is thrown back at you.

And, just an observation. You could have said the same thing to me and
it wouldn't have bothered me because it isn't true.


Are you saying that in your family, bigoted assholedom ends with you?
Good for your wife.

Women who cancel out their husband's stupid "conservative" vote can
easily be credited with Obama's victory.

If they voted with their husbands, we'd have McCain for president and
Sarah Palin for vice president.

The laughing stock of the universe. Aliens would cease to visit.

On 11/1/09 3:21 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:02:27 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/1/09 2:58 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

wrote in message
. ..
In ,
says...

He's has quite the potty mouth...considering it's Sunday& all.
His 'magic undies' must be a couple sizes too small.

Did you teach your son to treat others in a bigoted and intolerant
manner that you do? Your behavior is disgusting Don.


Too ****ing bad..anyone that trashes my family gets it back...and that
includes you asshole.
You don't like it... head on 'over there'.

You don't like being made fun of do you? You don't like having your
principles questioned do you? You don't like having your parental
capabilities questioned do you?

You sure can dish out the trash talk but you have a very difficult time
when it is thrown back at you.

And, just an observation. You could have said the same thing to me and
it wouldn't have bothered me because it isn't true.


Are you saying that in your family, bigoted assholedom ends with you?
Good for your wife.

Women who cancel out their husband's stupid "conservative" vote can
easily be credited with Obama's victory.

If they voted with their husbands, we'd have McCain for president and
Sarah Palin for vice president.

The laughing stock of the universe. Aliens would cease to visit.


Palin can see aliens from her porch, and I don't mean aliens from Russia.