On Oct 31, 10:50*am, TJ ""tj\"@florida,com" wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:20:39 -0400, H the K
wrote:

We are right in the middle of the insurance selection window. Lots of
people are getting a package with something like that in it.

IBM's retiree EPO (United) went from $860 to 988 a month.
Our provider has sent out notifications that the program we've been
part of for 5 or 6 years will no longer be offered. *Of course the
replacements will either curtail coverage or offer the same at an
inflated rate.

The timing couldn't be better to help folks realize that the public
option is one of the few weapons against this legal fleecing.

More and more, I am wondering why we need the health insurance company
middleman between us and our medical providers.

Seems to me that if you eliminated over time the private health
insurers, the high profits they are skimming could be put to use
providing needed care and coverage to Americans, costs would stabilize,
and we could have serious negotiations on price with all manner of
providers.

Medical services would be cheaper if we had to actually write a check.
Insurance should really only be for catastrophic injuries and
illnesses. We should be paying out of pocket for routine maintenance.
That is the only way to cut out the middle man, whether that is the
government or the insurance companies

BTW insurance companies really don't have that high a profit margin
when compared to other, similar sized companies.

What about people who are unemployed for one reason or another?

All they need to do is claim illegal alien status for all the free
medical care they want.- Hide quoted text -

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Not true.

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On Oct 31, 10:50*am, TJ ""tj\"@florida,com" wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:20:39 -0400, H the K
wrote:

We are right in the middle of the insurance selection window. Lots of
people are getting a package with something like that in it.

IBM's retiree EPO (United) went from $860 to 988 a month.
Our provider has sent out notifications that the program we've been
part of for 5 or 6 years will no longer be offered. *Of course the
replacements will either curtail coverage or offer the same at an
inflated rate.

The timing couldn't be better to help folks realize that the public
option is one of the few weapons against this legal fleecing.

More and more, I am wondering why we need the health insurance company
middleman between us and our medical providers.

Seems to me that if you eliminated over time the private health
insurers, the high profits they are skimming could be put to use
providing needed care and coverage to Americans, costs would stabilize,
and we could have serious negotiations on price with all manner of
providers.

Medical services would be cheaper if we had to actually write a check.
Insurance should really only be for catastrophic injuries and
illnesses. We should be paying out of pocket for routine maintenance.
That is the only way
to cut out the middle man,
whether that is the
government or the insurance companies

BTW insurance companies really don't have that high a profit margin
when compared to other, similar sized companies.

What about people who are unemployed for one reason or another?

All they need to do is claim illegal alien status for all the free
medical care they want.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Not true.

Bull ****ing ****, see my
last post.. Oh yeah, it
doesn't fit your agenda so
I must have heard it on
Hannity, and of course I am
more of a liar then JPS,
Harry, Plume and the rest
of them put together. I am
so sick of this prejudice
narrow minded bull**** from
Obermann, and Maddow...

The doctors (real doctors
not a bunch of political
operatives with white coats
on) told me all about it
the last time I was in,
even suggested I do it
myself... Stop being so led
around by the ****ing nose,
I am not a liar and I don't
listen to Rush and Hannity,
**** this it's useless to
run around in circles
proving stuff to you only
to have you call it a lie
cause you have been told it
is by proven liars...

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:45:12 -0400, Tosk wrote:

Bull ****ing ****, see my
last post.. Oh yeah, it
doesn't fit your agenda so
I must have heard it on
Hannity, and of course I am
more of a liar then JPS,
Harry, Plume and the rest
of them put together. I am
so sick of this prejudice
narrow minded bull**** from
Obermann, and Maddow...

The doctors (real doctors
not a bunch of political
operatives with white coats
on) told me all about it
the last time I was in,
even suggested I do it
myself... Stop being so led
around by the ****ing nose,
I am not a liar and I don't
listen to Rush and Hannity,
**** this it's useless to
run around in circles
proving stuff to you only
to have you call it a lie
cause you have been told it
is by proven liars...

Just a guess, you lost, or went without your meds.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:45:12 -0400, Tosk wrote:

Bull ****ing ****, see my
last post.. Oh yeah, it
doesn't fit your agenda so
I must have heard it on
Hannity, and of course I am
more of a liar then JPS,
Harry, Plume and the rest
of them put together. I am
so sick of this prejudice
narrow minded bull**** from
Obermann, and Maddow...

The doctors (real doctors
not a bunch of political
operatives with white coats
on) told me all about it
the last time I was in,
even suggested I do it
myself... Stop being so led
around by the ****ing nose,
I am not a liar and I don't
listen to Rush and Hannity,
**** this it's useless to
run around in circles
proving stuff to you only
to have you call it a lie
cause you have been told it
is by proven liars...

Just a guess, you lost, or went without your meds.

Not a chance. I have a 24 hour pharm right up the street and would never
go without my meds, at least the beta blocker. I carry extra in the gear
bag, car, and whenever I leave the house I bring an extra 48 hours
supply.
--
Here is Harry Krause:
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=14243
Harry Krause

On 10/31/09 6:41 PM, RLM wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:45:12 -0400, Tosk wrote:

Bull ****ing ****, see my
last post.. Oh yeah, it
doesn't fit your agenda so
I must have heard it on
Hannity, and of course I am
more of a liar then JPS,
Harry, Plume and the rest
of them put together. I am
so sick of this prejudice
narrow minded bull**** from
Obermann, and Maddow...

The doctors (real doctors
not a bunch of political
operatives with white coats
on) told me all about it
the last time I was in,
even suggested I do it
myself... Stop being so led
around by the ****ing nose,
I am not a liar and I don't
listen to Rush and Hannity,
**** this it's useless to
run around in circles
proving stuff to you only
to have you call it a lie
cause you have been told it
is by proven liars...

Just a guess, you lost, or went without your meds.

His BFF is SW Tom. :)