On Oct 31, 10:19*am, Tosk wrote:
In article fa24d257-6902-4a7b-a747-f196af18caf2
@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...







On Oct 31, 9:08*am, Tosk wrote:
In article fad3bbe0-efda-408b-ae21-b95834900d94@
37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 31, 8:48*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
The scariest story told this Halloween - the most terrifying words
screeched - came from the master of environmental horror himself, our
favorite environmental collapse gasbag himself Al "Bloody" Gore. *

Get it - Bloody? Gore? *Halloween?

Er...anyway....

"If the North Pole were to melt it could increase sea levels by 67
metres, Gore said, speaking in the heart of an oil-rich region not
known for its regard for the environment."

http://business.maktoob.com/20090000...limate_change_...

220 feet? *Damn - that's up 20 meters from his last "projection".

Hasn't he ever heard of displacement? Hello - ice floats? *The Arctic
is a ocean? *Hello - anybody home?

Heh - even better...he's still addicted to the global warming/fierce
hurricane scenario - which oddly, is becoming subject to real science
nad exposed as the bull**** it is.

http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/

Yes, we all know, just because there is pile after pile of scientific
data proving otherwise, Rush and other republicans have told you
global warming isn't happening.

Why do you keep making up sound bytes? The study had nothing to do with
any politician, it is a scientific study from the University of Florida?
You know Loogie, it's ok to get informed and change your mind. When I am
wrong here I admit it, like with the Cheney thing. Why can't you?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I AM informed, and I'll bet good money I've read more scientific
papers regarding global warming than you have. ANYBODY that actually
has studied it as opposed to getting their information from the RNC,
knows full well global warming IS happening.

This is useless... You get your info from scientists, I get mine from
scientists, but of course because mine is different than yours, mine is
automatically a lie. I won't say who this sounds like...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Please post some sites where scientists give unrefutable evidence that
global warming is NOT happening.

On Oct 31, 10:30*am, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

I AM informed, and I'll bet good money I've read more scientific
papers regarding global warming than you have. ANYBODY that actually
has studied it as opposed to getting their information from the RNC,
knows full well global warming IS happening.

This is useless... You get your info from scientists, I get mine from
scientists, but of course because mine is different than yours, mine is
automatically a lie. I won't say who this sounds like.

Doesn't Loogy know they change the name from Global Warming to Climate
Change? They did this because the data was accumulating against the
arguments for Global Warming. So they decided that they would change
their moniker to Climate Change, which constantly occurs. Right now in
my area our climate is changing from Summer to Fall and soon it will be
winter. I sure hope somebody figures out how to make it Spring again.

That's just stupid.

What really baffles me is how supposedly educated people who subscribe
to Darwin's theory of evolution believe that:
- Species should not die off as they have been doing for millions and
millions of years. And, they even did it before man walked the Earth.
- The climate on Earth should be constant and never evolve or change.

Where did I ever say such?

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:48:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

The scariest story told this Halloween - the most terrifying words
screeched - came from the master of environmental horror himself, our
favorite environmental collapse gasbag himself Al "Bloody" Gore.

Get it - Bloody? Gore? Halloween?

Er...anyway....

"If the North Pole were to melt it could increase sea levels by 67
metres, Gore said, speaking in the heart of an oil-rich region not known
for its regard for the environment."

http://business.maktoob.com/20090000389134/
Gore_beats_climate_change_drum_in_Dubai/Article.htm

220 feet? Damn - that's up 20 meters from his last "projection".

Hasn't he ever heard of displacement? Hello - ice floats? The Arctic is
a ocean? Hello - anybody home?

There's a difference between ice shelves and ice sheets. Ice shelves
float, and their melting would have a negligible impact on sea levels.
However, ice sheets, such as those that cover Greenland and Antarctica,
if they were to *totally* melt, would raise sea-levels @80 meters,
according to USGS.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/


Heh - even better...he's still addicted to the global warming/fierce
hurricane scenario - which oddly, is becoming subject to real science
nad exposed as the bull**** it is.

http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/

On 10/31/09 11:53 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:48:52 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

The scariest story told this Halloween - the most terrifying words
screeched - came from the master of environmental horror himself, our
favorite environmental collapse gasbag himself Al "Bloody" Gore.

Get it - Bloody? Gore? Halloween?

Er...anyway....

"If the North Pole were to melt it could increase sea levels by 67
metres, Gore said, speaking in the heart of an oil-rich region not known
for its regard for the environment."

http://business.maktoob.com/20090000389134/
Gore_beats_climate_change_drum_in_Dubai/Article.htm

220 feet? Damn - that's up 20 meters from his last "projection".

Hasn't he ever heard of displacement? Hello - ice floats? The Arctic is
a ocean? Hello - anybody home?

There's a difference between ice shelves and ice sheets. Ice shelves
float, and their melting would have a negligible impact on sea levels.
However, ice sheets, such as those that cover Greenland and Antarctica,
if they were to *totally* melt, would raise sea-levels @80 meters,
according to USGS.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/


Stop confusing SW "Scientist" Tom. He'll have to make another call to
JustHate a Scotty for fact mystification.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:53:04 -0500, thunder
wrote:

There's a difference between ice shelves and ice sheets. Ice shelves
float, and their melting would have a negligible impact on sea levels.
However, ice sheets, such as those that cover Greenland and Antarctica,
if they were to *totally* melt, would raise sea-levels @80 meters,
according to USGS.

Understood.

He's talking about floating ice.

And we don't have to worry about Antarctica - it's ice sheet is
growing.

As is part of Greenland's.

Sorry - we're not going to be swimming tomorow.

In article 92b9e255-54e6-4f58-b2f2-422f19f990b1
@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 31, 10:19*am, Tosk wrote:
In article fa24d257-6902-4a7b-a747-f196af18caf2
@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says...







On Oct 31, 9:08*am, Tosk wrote:
In article fad3bbe0-efda-408b-ae21-b95834900d94@
37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 31, 8:48*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
The scariest story told this Halloween - the most terrifying words
screeched - came from the master of environmental horror himself, our
favorite environmental collapse gasbag himself Al "Bloody" Gore. *

Get it - Bloody? Gore? *Halloween?

Er...anyway....

"If the North Pole were to melt it could increase sea levels by 67
metres, Gore said, speaking in the heart of an oil-rich region not
known for its regard for the environment."

http://business.maktoob.com/20090000...limate_change_...

220 feet? *Damn - that's up 20 meters from his last "projection".

Hasn't he ever heard of displacement? Hello - ice floats? *The Arctic
is a ocean? *Hello - anybody home?

Heh - even better...he's still addicted to the global warming/fierce
hurricane scenario - which oddly, is becoming subject to real science
nad exposed as the bull**** it is.

http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/

Yes, we all know, just because there is pile after pile of scientific
data proving otherwise, Rush and other republicans have told you
global warming isn't happening.

Why do you keep making up sound bytes? The study had nothing to do with
any politician, it is a scientific study from the University of Florida?
You know Loogie, it's ok to get informed and change your mind. When I am
wrong here I admit it, like with the Cheney thing. Why can't you?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I AM informed, and I'll bet good money I've read more scientific
papers regarding global warming than you have. ANYBODY that actually
has studied it as opposed to getting their information from the RNC,
knows full well global warming IS happening.

This is useless... You get your info from scientists, I get mine from
scientists, but of course because mine is different than yours, mine is
automatically a lie. I won't say who this sounds like...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Please post some sites where scientists give unrefutable evidence that
global warming is NOT happening.

Tom has posted several lately, read them, and stop listening to Al Gore,
and George Soros. Your idea of irrefutable seems to be, if you agree
with it, and that ain't happening. At the same time, we have shown you
several instances where your side has been caught fudging the numbers
and just flat making it up... But of course, "everything" else those
guys say is "irrefutable"... well, almost, all of it, until we find more
monitoring stations being moved, etc...

In article ,
says...


And we don't have to worry about Antarctica - it's ice sheet is
growing.

As is part of Greenland's.

Sorry - we're not going to be swimming tomorow.

Tom, you are not supposed to point that out, it doesn't count!

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:41:43 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Oct 31, 10:30*am, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

I AM informed, and I'll bet good money I've read more scientific
papers regarding global warming than you have. ANYBODY that actually
has studied it as opposed to getting their information from the RNC,
knows full well global warming IS happening.

This is useless... You get your info from scientists, I get mine from
scientists, but of course because mine is different than yours, mine is
automatically a lie. I won't say who this sounds like.

Doesn't Loogy know they change the name from Global Warming to Climate
Change? They did this because the data was accumulating against the
arguments for Global Warming. So they decided that they would change
their moniker to Climate Change, which constantly occurs. Right now in
my area our climate is changing from Summer to Fall and soon it will be
winter. I sure hope somebody figures out how to make it Spring again.

That's just stupid.

What really baffles me is how supposedly educated people who subscribe
to Darwin's theory of evolution believe that:
- Species should not die off as they have been doing for millions and
millions of years. And, they even did it before man walked the Earth.
- The climate on Earth should be constant and never evolve or change.

Where did I ever say such?

Here. Over and over and over.

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Oct 31, 9:08 am, Tosk wrote:
In article fad3bbe0-efda-408b-ae21-b95834900d94@
37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...







On Oct 31, 8:48 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
The scariest story told this Halloween - the most terrifying words
screeched - came from the master of environmental horror himself, our
favorite environmental collapse gasbag himself Al "Bloody" Gore.

Get it - Bloody? Gore? Halloween?

Er...anyway....

"If the North Pole were to melt it could increase sea levels by 67
metres, Gore said, speaking in the heart of an oil-rich region not
known for its regard for the environment."

http://business.maktoob.com/20090000...limate_change_...

220 feet? Damn - that's up 20 meters from his last "projection".

Hasn't he ever heard of displacement? Hello - ice floats? The Arctic
is a ocean? Hello - anybody home?

Heh - even better...he's still addicted to the global warming/fierce
hurricane scenario - which oddly, is becoming subject to real science
nad exposed as the bull**** it is.

http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/

Yes, we all know, just because there is pile after pile of scientific
data proving otherwise, Rush and other republicans have told you
global warming isn't happening.

Why do you keep making up sound bytes? The study had nothing to do with
any politician, it is a scientific study from the University of Florida?
You know Loogie, it's ok to get informed and change your mind. When I am
wrong here I admit it, like with the Cheney thing. Why can't you?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I AM informed, and I'll bet good money I've read more scientific
papers regarding global warming than you have. ANYBODY that actually
has studied it as opposed to getting their information from the RNC,
knows full well global warming IS happening.

The question was what is causing the climate change. And some people, that
stand to make a lot of mony selling "carbon Credits" state it is man caused.
Can not prove that theory. Seems as if Mars was warming at the same time.
Maybe it is not man caused, and nature that caused the last major iceage,
the last mini ice age, and the warming to end the ice ages.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:38:06 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

I AM informed, and I'll bet good money I've read more scientific
papers regarding global warming than you have. ANYBODY that actually
has studied it as opposed to getting their information from the RNC,
knows full well global warming IS happening.

You need to read a few more Bill - it's not happening and in fact,
totally bogus based on schlock science.

And I suspect we're about equal in terms of reading papers, checking
the math and evolving informed opinions.