On Nov 3, 4:33*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Nov 3, 7:25*am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:
On Nov 3, 1:58*am, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
"And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and
are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if
and when it comes."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore.....

Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not
much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry
about a year and a half later or so....

Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening
and is a scam?

We're discussing anthropogenic global warming, the non-existent
variety. Maybe one day you'll understand the difference, and why the
scam is making folks like Gore, et al (mostly Democrats) very rich.- Hide quoted text -

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Again, where does it say in the article that global warming doesn't
exist? So, despite reams and reams of data proving otherwise, you
still would rather believe what the RNC tells you as opposed to what
scientists are telling you?

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:45:45 -0500, NotNow wrote:

Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening
and is a scam?
The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it.
Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to
stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars,
ZPG or whatever)

Exactly, it's the same one world crowd.. Remember the first "Earth Day"
back in the 70's? I do, we were headed for the next ice age...snerk.

THAT'S your justification for ignoring science concerning global warming????

anthropogenic???

That's where Gore, et al, (including Obama) are making their money.

On Nov 3, 4:34*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:44:51 -0800, jps wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:02:03 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/3/09 8:59 AM, Tosk wrote:
In article27f68d78-3f3c-402a-8719-b5104d433cf7
@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

On Nov 3, 7:25 am, "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
*wrote:
On Nov 3, 1:58 am, Tom Francis - SWSports

*wrote:
"And few have put as much money behind their advocacy as Mr. Gore and
are as well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if
and when it comes."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/bu...ronment/03gore....

Many of us have known about the GW Scam for a long time. Really not
much different than the Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry
about a year and a half later or so....

Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening
and is a scam?

Doesn't, it's my opinion. Al Gore has been milking this for years while
preaching to us, and living like a self indulgent king...

Your opinion? You are an ill-educated moron. Why is your opinion on a
scientific matter relevant

Self-indulgent king? *Al Gore? *Enron, Countrywide, Adelphia, Global
Crossing, Worldcom, Goldman Sachs, Lehman, Washington Mutual, etc.,
etc., etc.

Most of 'em Republican pigs.

He picks Al Gore as the self-indulgent king?

****ing idiot.

Watch for HK's sharp turns!- Hide quoted text -

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That's not his nose, that's his trailer hitch, and Harry's the hauler!!

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:56:01 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Nov 3, 1:43*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:48:24 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

Where in that article does it say that global warming isn't happening
and is a scam?

The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it.
Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to
stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars,
ZPG or whatever)

You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole has
been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort.

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Nom=de=Plume

Quit now. There is scientific research to back that up, and a lot of
conservatives just don't like that. They just need a talking head to
tell them that that isn't the case.

Team up with the Plum. That'll help your credibility.

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:43:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it.
Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to
stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars,
ZPG or whatever)


You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole
has
been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort.

What nobody says is they made more freon after the "ban" than they had
before it. China never stopped and they made close to a billion R-12
(the worst stuff) refrigerators after the ban. Mexico was still
selling R-12 for many years after the ban (and probably still are)
A few years ago I read an article about the gray market in it.
You can still get R-22 but the end of US manufacture is this year I
believe.

A rational person who actually understands how much freon was made and
released would have to say that ozone hole was a natural cycle that
cycled the other way ... all by itself.



Well, it looks like the Nobel committee was wrong yet again, as three
scientists were awarded the prize in chemistry for the theory.

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Nom=de=Plume

On 11/3/09 5:49 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:43:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it.
Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to
stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars,
ZPG or whatever)


You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole
has
been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort.

What nobody says is they made more freon after the "ban" than they had
before it. China never stopped and they made close to a billion R-12
(the worst stuff) refrigerators after the ban. Mexico was still
selling R-12 for many years after the ban (and probably still are)
A few years ago I read an article about the gray market in it.
You can still get R-22 but the end of US manufacture is this year I
believe.

A rational person who actually understands how much freon was made and
released would have to say that ozone hole was a natural cycle that
cycled the other way ... all by itself.



Well, it looks like the Nobel committee was wrong yet again, as three
scientists were awarded the prize in chemistry for the theory.



Careful now...righties don't believe in the Nobel prizes.

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:45:37 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:34:01 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:10:33 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:51:53 -0500, H the K
wrote:

The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it.
Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to
stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars,
ZPG or whatever)


Higher gas taxes, eating less meat, driving smaller cars and
controlling population would benefit all of us, whatever the motivation.


So sell it that way and stop making up lies that this will stop global
climate change in any way at all.

It is like the Iraq war. If we had just said at the outset, this was
to stop an Iraqi/Isreali war, we could have made a rational decision.
As it was we had a lie, compounded by obfuscation and denial.
It certainly had noting to do with oil but that was what the left
said. (Saddam would have been more than happy to sell us oil at a
bargain price)
The right talked about direct threats to the US and that is BS too.

Huh? Dick Cheney and George Bush in office and it had nothing to do
with oil? It was to prevent Israel going to war with Saddam?

Over what, Saddam's payments to jihadists?

You've got to be kidding...

We went to war with Saddam so Israel wouldn't attack them ... again.
(you do remember that?)

I remember that in the litany of excuses about why we were there.

I don't understand why you didn't pick any of the others?
WMD, drones, Winnebagos, Terrorist training camps, the poor trampled
Iraqi masses, mass graves, nuclear weapons materials, yellowcake,
tubes, etc.

Why isn't the big pool of oil under the country your focus. They knew
Saddam was hobbled. They knew the country would be taken over by Iran
if someone didn't fill the void first. Kissinger has been telling
every administration for four decades to go in and occupy the mid-east
so no one else gets their hands on that oil.

You assume it's because we were protecting Israel from getting their
hands dirty?

That dog won't hunt.

We are threatening Iran right now for exactly the same reason.
If we don't stop their nuclear program Israel will.

We are not acting as surrogates for Israel. They will act on their
own as the need dictates, as we've seen many times before. They may
seek our approval but they will move on their own as needed.

Saddam would have sold us cheap oil forever.

Not if he lost control of the country.

The problem is he would
have used the money to buy arms to fight Israel with.

Baloney. He was our stooge and all he wanted was more oil.

As long as he
was just fighting with Iran we were in love with him.

The writing was on the wall. The embargos had weakened him. He was
on his knees and lots inside and out of his circle knew it. You think
neither the US nor Iran knew it? Don't fool yourself.

While you are looking up the Israeli attack on Saddams nuclear plant,
look up Gerald Bull.

I'll do that.

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:48:14 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:36:46 -0800, jps wrote:

Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry?

I agree, Y2K was one of the best things that happened to the computer
industry. Lots of people who only needed a little software patch,
bought a new machine.
Most of them would have been just fine if they simply rebooted their
machine in the morning and set the date.

I knew folks close to the action at Microsoft and they were freaked
out that air guidance systems were going to crash.

I'm sure it was blown out of proportion and there was certainly a lot
of work generated for cobol and fortran programmers.

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:55:12 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:43:53 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it.
Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to
stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars,
ZPG or whatever)


You mean like not using Freon? That actually worked, and the ozone hole has
been greatly reduced. FYI, a woman's effort.

What nobody says is they made more freon after the "ban" than they had
before it. China never stopped and they made close to a billion R-12
(the worst stuff) refrigerators after the ban. Mexico was still
selling R-12 for many years after the ban (and probably still are)
A few years ago I read an article about the gray market in it.
You can still get R-22 but the end of US manufacture is this year I
believe.

A rational person who actually understands how much freon was made and
released would have to say that ozone hole was a natural cycle that
cycled the other way ... all by itself.

Maybe it wasn't what was being produced contemporaneously, but what
had already been produced, distributed, stockpiled and leaking into
the air.

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:36:46 -0800, jps wrote:

Y2K scam that destroyed the chip industry?

I agree, Y2K was one of the best things that happened to the computer
industry. Lots of people who only needed a little software patch,
bought a new machine.
Most of them would have been just fine if they simply rebooted their
machine in the morning and set the date.

The problem was, once everybody bought new computers at once, they
didn't need new ones for 2 1/2 to 3 years so the bubble was bound to
burst. I had one friend in the market heavy, I warned him to pull his
"bubble" stocks and he did, he was very grateful by the end of '02. Kind
of like the cash for clunkers is gonna' do or is doing to the car
industry.

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