On Nov 8, 12:12Â*pm, "sr" wrote:
The Govenment was sat up to PROTECT our FREEDOMS Not taking them away, that
is being done in today's world

I guess you have noticed, the legislatures do not know or care about our
constitution, other than taking an oath of office.
Dishonest


Well, it looks increasingly like the jig is up. We can no longer
afford politics as usual.
Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea -
anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is
fundamentally corrupting and can not work. The Fed is making a lot of
paper fish. This is an illusion of wealth. The real fish are gone.
Â*----

http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/how.shtml




------------"Werner" wrote in message

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On Nov 7, 11:55 pm, wf3h wrote:





On Nov 7, 9:35 am, Werner wrote:

On Nov 7, 7:07 am, martin wrote: On Nov
7, 5:01 am, "Escape_the_Cult_Now"
wrote:

Democrats Vote to Give Illegal Aliens Unemployment Insurance

...

Odd. Don't Dems also want to prosecute Americans for employing
illegals? Yes. Very strange.

perhaps goldman sachs, with their recently announced average salaries
and bonuses of $700,000, could help. that, courtesy of reagan/bush

Goldman Sachs seems to run finances in all administrations, especially
this one.

i'd rather give it to illegal aliens than legal thieves on wall street

Yet, our glorious government still favors Wall Streeters. Politics as
Usual is all about exploitation.
Governing has become a way to get privileges for some at the expense
of others.
?http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/what.shtml
That's why it was supposed to have limited powers. Wasn't America
supposed to be about voluntary agreement instead of ?forced
obedience?http://www.ny.lp.org/choice

On Nov 7, 10:59*am, Tim Crowley wrote:
On Nov 7, 4:07*am, martin wrote:



Does anyone still support the government in Washington, DC?

Yes, the vast majority of Americans. *You 1% American haters are
forced to hide behind anonymous mailers while the world passes you by.


You must live in a different world.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pol...ve/?poll_id=18

"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Nov 8, 11:24 am, Thanatos wrote:
On Nov 7, 11:55 pm, wf3h wrote:

On Nov 7, 9:35 am, Werner wrote:

On Nov 7, 7:07 am, martin wrote: On
Nov 7,
5:01 am, "Escape the Cult Now"
wrote:

Democrats Vote to Give Illegal Aliens Unemployment Insurance
Odd. Don't Dems also want to prosecute Americans for employing
illegals? Yes. Very strange.

perhaps goldman sachs, with their recently announced average salaries
and bonuses of $700,000, could help.

Help with what? Giving money to illegals? You seem to be missing the
entire point here.

yeah. they can sacrifice some of that money for folks earning minimum
wage. we gave goldman sachs the money. now they give it to their rich
managers while the GOP bitches about the poor
================
-------Obama LikUniversity of California $1,591,395
Goldman Sachs $994,795
Harvard University $854,747
Microsoft Corp $833,617
Google Inc $803,436
Citigroup Inc $701,290
JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
Time Warner $590,084
Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
Stanford University $586,557
National Amusements Inc $551,683
UBS AG $543,219
Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
IBM Corp $528,822
Columbia University $528,302
Morgan Stanley $514,881
General Electric $499,130
US Government $494,820
Latham & Watkins $493,835
And remember, Obama Adm. saw to it the big boys got their HINI flu shots,
while the Military only got 1/2 of the requested doses, and Maine got enough
for 1 in 3. Obama likes the Big Boys, even retain Hank Paulson, Goldman
Sachs, from the Bush Adm.
,

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:01:29 -0800 (PST), wf3h
wrote:

yeah. they can sacrifice some of that money for folks earning minimum
wage. we gave goldman sachs the money. now they give it to their rich
managers while the GOP bitches about the poor

The financial cost of wars in countries where bin Laden visited
sometime in the past would pay for a great deal.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

On Nov 8, 1:02*pm, Werner wrote:
On Nov 7, 10:59*am, Tim Crowley wrote:

On Nov 7, 4:07*am, martin wrote:

Does anyone still support the government in Washington, DC?

Yes, the vast majority of Americans. *You 1% American haters are
forced to hide behind anonymous mailers while the world passes you by.

You must live in a different world.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pol...ve/?poll_id=18

political polls have nothing to do with supporting your Government.
You may disagree with the President. Disprove of how he's doing his
job. But if you're an American, you realize that are the Government
and it is your duty as an American Citizen to support your
Government. Maybe a civics class would help you clear it up.

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:13:28 -0800 (PST), Tim Crowley
wrote:

political polls have nothing to do with supporting your Government.
You may disagree with the President. Disprove of how he's doing his
job. But if you're an American, you realize that are the Government
and it is your duty as an American Citizen to support your
Government. Maybe a civics class would help you clear it up.

This is a value which is more popular with the Right than with the
Left. But it is a value which seems to be ignored when the other
party is in power. Maybe it just sounds as though it's ignored, and
the Right is hoping for the President's policies to succeed.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

"Werner" wrote in message
...
On Nov 8, 12:12 pm, "sr" wrote:
The Govenment was sat up to PROTECT our FREEDOMS Not taking them away,
that
is being done in today's world

I guess you have noticed, the legislatures do not know or care about our
constitution, other than taking an oath of office.
Dishonest


Well, it looks increasingly like the jig is up. We can no longer
afford politics as usual.
Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea -
anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is
fundamentally corrupting and can not work. The Fed is making a lot of
paper fish. This is an illusion of wealth. The real fish are gone.
----
?http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/how.shtml




------------"Werner" wrote in message

...
On Nov 7, 11:55 pm, wf3h wrote:





On Nov 7, 9:35 am, Werner wrote:

On Nov 7, 7:07 am, martin wrote: On Nov
7, 5:01 am, "Escape_the_Cult_Now"
wrote:

Democrats Vote to Give Illegal Aliens Unemployment Insurance

...

Odd. Don't Dems also want to prosecute Americans for employing
illegals? Yes. Very strange.

perhaps goldman sachs, with their recently announced average salaries
and bonuses of $700,000, could help. that, courtesy of reagan/bush

Goldman Sachs seems to run finances in all administrations, especially
this one.

i'd rather give it to illegal aliens than legal thieves on wall street

Yet, our glorious government still favors Wall Streeters. Politics as
Usual is all about exploitation.
Governing has become a way to get privileges for some at the expense
of others.
?http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/what.shtml
That's why it was supposed to have limited powers. Wasn't America
supposed to be about voluntary agreement instead of ?forced
obedience?http://www.ny.lp.org/choice
=======No sense in hiding you money in a tin can in the backyard, the value
of the dollar in2010,2011, isn't going to be worth the sweat to dig that
hole. Inflation is going to hit us with dbl digits to cover all the
spending, Back to the Carter years. OBAMA is too young to remember the
Carter year, I guess, the same can't be said that had a hand in running up
this debt. Short signed, I guess

On Nov 8, 8:13Â*pm, Tim Crowley wrote:
On Nov 8, 1:02Â*pm, Werner wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:59Â*am, Tim Crowley wrote:

On Nov 7, 4:07Â*am, martin wrote:

Does anyone still support the government in Washington, DC?

Yes, the vast majority of Americans. Â*You 1% American haters are
forced to hide behind anonymous mailers while the world passes you by..

You must live in a different world.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/pol...ve/?poll_id=18

political polls have nothing to do with supporting your Government.
You may disagree with the President. Disprove of how he's doing his
job. But if you're an American, you realize that are the Government
and it is your duty as an American Citizen to support your
Government. Â*Maybe a civics class would help you clear it up.


No the civics lesson I learned was how government was supposed to be
accountable to We The People.
If "we the people'' must pay for a "money pit'' we obviously don't
want, does that not make us accountable to government?
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Accountable.shtml

http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Education.shtml
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/PerformanceGap.shtml
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/ReportCard.shtml
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Schools.shtml

despite the fact that the U.S. spends the largest amount of money per
pupil in the world, standardized international achievement tests
reveal that U.S. public schools achieve mediocre scores.. For
example,
according to the 2000 Program for International Student Assessment
(PISA) for 15-
year-old students, the U.S. ranked 15th in reading, 18th in
mathematics, and 14th in science literacy among 27 OECD countries
(U.S. DOE, 2001).
http://www.uwm.edu/~kim/papers/Accountability_Final.pdf


"
In crafting the Bill of Rights, the framers were careful to
acknowledge implicitly and explicitly two key truths:

The first is that government does not grant rights it acknowledges
them. They exist independently of government. They're part of who and
what we are. And, as Jefferson noted in the Declaration of
Independence, the only legitimate function of government is to secure
them.

The second is that government is a servant to whom we delegate powers,
not a master who dispenses privileges. The Constitution carefully
enumerates the powers we, the people, delegate to our government and
it specifically denies that government any powers not so delegated.
Our rights lie beyond the pale of that delegation. They are
sacrosanct. Any government which infringes upon them is engaged in an
intolerable usurpation.
"
www.badnarik.org
-----

A "right" as envisioned by the Founders meant that the government
was notÂ*permitted to interfere with your pursuit of them, i.e.,
your pursuit ofÂ*happiness was to be unhindered by government.Â*

The "right" of free speech means that government cannot interfere
with yourÂ*free speech. The "right" of gun ownership means that the
government cannot infringe yourÂ*gun ownership. What does "right"
to health care mean? It means that the government cannotÂ*stand in
the way of your pursuit of health care, or impede your
obtainingÂ*health care. The "right" to an attorney means that the
government cannot prevent you obtaining an attorney to represent
you.

Of course, "right" has incorrectly come to mean that someone must
supply youÂ*with something. If your "right" to housing means that
some slave mustÂ*supply you with housing, and your "right" to health
care means that someÂ*slave must supply you with health care, and your
"right" to an attorneyÂ*means that some slave must supply you with an
attorney, does your "right" toÂ*free speech mean that some slave must
supply you with a loudspeaker, or TVÂ*air time? Does your "right" to
own guns mean that some slave must supplyÂ*you with guns?


http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Rights.shtml

Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea -
anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is
fundamentally corrupting and can not work. The Fed is making a lot of
paper fish. This is an illusion of wealth. The real fish are gone.
Â*----

http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/how.shtml
Governing has become a way to get privileges for some at the expense
of others.

http://www.capitaldistrict-lp.org/what.shtml
http://www.investmentu.com/IUEL/2008...onal-debt.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp8Zm...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FSoX...eature=related

"sr" wrote in message
...

"Werner" wrote in message
...
On Nov 8, 12:12 pm, "sr" wrote:
=======No sense in hiding you money in a tin can in the backyard, the
value of the dollar in2010,2011, isn't going to be worth the sweat to dig
that hole. Inflation is going to hit us with dbl digits to cover all the
spending, Back to the Carter years. OBAMA is too young to remember the
Carter year, I guess, the same can't be said that had a hand in running up
this debt. Short signed, I guess



there goes your ignorant, retarded, goober ass again

what the hell is "short signed" ?

you ignorant, retarded,stupid,cross eyed hillbilly idiot

On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:57:31 -0500, "sr" wrote:

Well, it looks increasingly like the jig is up. We can no longer
afford politics as usual.
Dollars in the common treasury are like fish in the common sea -
anyone who can will harvest to extinction. That is why socialism is
fundamentally corrupting and can not work. The Fed is making a lot of
paper fish. This is an illusion of wealth. The real fish are gone.

I agree that when money is printed and spent by the same people, this
kind of corruption happens. If you are referring to such
governments as "socialism", you have a point. If you are just
referring to the other party - the one that spends the deficit
differently from your party, then your point is lost.

Do you have a proposal that you believe could work - separating out
the spending from the money printing? Maybe give up the power to
print money to some international body? Or do you prefer that we go
back to gold, and no more IOUs such as loans on paper?

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison