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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or go to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans? Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2 trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us 3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the rest
it's business.

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It must be really hard on people like you when you hear an opinion you
don't
like.


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Must be even worse for disciples of the DNC.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
news

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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It must be really hard on people like you when you hear an opinion you
don't
like.


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Must be even worse for disciples of the DNC.

Perhaps you should ask them. Do you think it's a conspiracy?

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans? Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us 3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:04:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans? Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us 3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

Must've pressed a button.

He thinks the government needs to make a profit on health care.

On Nov 13, 2:04*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
*What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. *Of course that would be the end of foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. *We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or go
to
jail? *Be fined? *Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? *111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans? Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. *What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. *I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. *Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq..

None of it as fast or furiously spent. *Two Bush wars will cost us 3
trillion from what I last heard. *How much are we looking at spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. *Not happy about the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. *Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? *Just changes the path of the money to the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

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Nom=de=Plume

Wait until your friend JPS gets started. Will you tell him to get a
grip as well?

"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:04:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder

wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of
foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans? Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal
house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us 3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about
the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to
the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

Must've pressed a button.

He thinks the government needs to make a profit on health care.

Yup, pressed a button. To even insinuate that the Government can provide
health care cheaper is idiocy.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:24:01 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:04:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder

wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of
foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans? Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal
house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us 3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about
the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to
the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

Must've pressed a button.

He thinks the government needs to make a profit on health care.

Yup, pressed a button. To even insinuate that the Government can provide
health care cheaper is idiocy.

It's gonna happen Bill so we'll see. Maybe we'll put a ridiculously
compensated CEO at the head just to drive you completely bonkers.

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:04:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder

wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of
foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or
go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans?
Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal
house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us 3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at
spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about
the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month
old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to
the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

Must've pressed a button.

He thinks the government needs to make a profit on health care.

Yup, pressed a button. To even insinuate that the Government can provide
health care cheaper is idiocy.

Wrong again...

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Cont...d-Reality.aspx

Also, re costs:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...rsus-insurers/
"Here’s the raw fact, from the National Health Expenditure data: since 1970
Medicare costs per beneficiary have risen at an annual rate of 8.8% — but
insurance premiums have risen at an annual rate of 9.9%. The rise in
Medicare costs is just part of the overall rise in health care spending. And
in fact Medicare spending has lagged private spending: if insurance premiums
had risen “only” as much as Medicare spending, they’d be 1/3 lower than they
are."
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On Nov 13, 2:04 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message

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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder

wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of
foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans? Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal
house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us 3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Wait until your friend JPS gets started. Will you tell him to get a
grip as well?


I defer to you to police Usenet. Do you condone using such language?
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