On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:59:32 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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It must be really hard on people like you when you hear an opinion you
don't
like.


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Must be even worse for disciples of the DNC.

Perhaps you should ask them. Do you think it's a conspiracy?

These idiots are so far right, they don't recognize you could be a
moderate to liberal Republican. Of course, you'd have been driven
from their ranks by now.

From your posts, you sound fiscally conservative and liberal socially.
There's a lot of folks who used to be just that in the Republican
party. I have friends who've been completely alienated by the R's and
have either sat out or crossed the line.

I'm sad that there isn't a worthy opposition to improve the D's
thinking. What a waste of time and money to employ these jerks whose
only aim is to thwart the president from doing what the people elected
him to do.

Sad state of affairs. I wish Obama would just abandon the hope for
collegial respect and power forward with what the country needs.

He's risking the loss of those who were energized to see what he could
do.

On 11/13/09 3:45 PM, jps wrote:
I wish Obama would just abandon the hope for
collegial respect and power forward with what the country needs.

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Agreed, screw the GOP.

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If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to
*communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among
the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice,
simple-minded day.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:59:32 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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It must be really hard on people like you when you hear an opinion you
don't
like.


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Nom=de=Plume


Must be even worse for disciples of the DNC.

Perhaps you should ask them. Do you think it's a conspiracy?

These idiots are so far right, they don't recognize you could be a
moderate to liberal Republican. Of course, you'd have been driven
from their ranks by now.

From your posts, you sound fiscally conservative and liberal socially.
There's a lot of folks who used to be just that in the Republican
party. I have friends who've been completely alienated by the R's and
have either sat out or crossed the line.

Well, I was certainly a moderate Republican when I did PTO work. I'm
certainly now left of center. I'm a compasionate conservative (nothing like
Bush's self-designation). I'm very liberal socially and fiscally
conservative. I believe in charity, both public and private. If I had to
pick one word, I guess I would pick patriot, with all that implies (not the
right wing version).

I'm sad that there isn't a worthy opposition to improve the D's
thinking. What a waste of time and money to employ these jerks whose
only aim is to thwart the president from doing what the people elected
him to do.

The extremism diminishes the Republican and Dem. parties, not to mention the
country and the rest of the world.

Sad state of affairs. I wish Obama would just abandon the hope for
collegial respect and power forward with what the country needs.

He's risking the loss of those who were energized to see what he could
do.

I agree. He needs to remain civil, taking the high road, but we need to move
on (no relation to that org.).

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:24:01 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:04:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder

wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of
foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or
go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans?
Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal
house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us
3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at
spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a
lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about
the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month
old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to
the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

Must've pressed a button.

He thinks the government needs to make a profit on health care.

Yup, pressed a button. To even insinuate that the Government can provide
health care cheaper is idiocy.

It's gonna happen Bill so we'll see. Maybe we'll put a ridiculously
compensated CEO at the head just to drive you completely bonkers.

Yup, another Czar.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:24:01 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:04:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder

wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of
foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or
go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans?
Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal
house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides
Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us
3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at
spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money,
blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a
lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about
the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even
get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month
old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to
the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as
the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

Must've pressed a button.

He thinks the government needs to make a profit on health care.

Yup, pressed a button. To even insinuate that the Government can provide
health care cheaper is idiocy.

It's gonna happen Bill so we'll see. Maybe we'll put a ridiculously
compensated CEO at the head just to drive you completely bonkers.

Yup, another Czar.

Well, he has to at least try and equal the number created under Bush...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_branch_czars

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:12:45 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:24:01 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:04:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
...

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:30:03 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:47:11 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
news:g7mmf5lgudaqhlcdks1588b2enct951fs7@ 4ax.com...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:31:44 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:15:00 -0600, thunder

wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:15:52 -0800, Bill McKee wrote:
What happens when
China wants to cash in all that debt we owe them.

Tell them to pound sand. Of course that would be the end of
foreign
financing our deficits, but that would be a good thing. We'd
finally
have to get our fiscal house in order.

So you're ok with being required to purchase a $15,000 policy or
go
to
jail? Be fined? Have 2.5% of your income confiscated for
"insurance"? 111 new departments to manage the paperwork? $200
million dollars to pay off vetinarian medical school loans?
Medical
effectiveness (read "death panels") policy?

You're ok with all that, but you think we should get our fiscal
house
in order?

How about we just leave things alone instead of spending $1.2
trillion
dollars over the next eight years instead.

Holy ****. What a wonder it'd have been if you'd have said that
while
we were shipping tanks to Iraq. I'd consider you human.

One trick pony. Lots of waste over the last 17 years besides Iraq.

None of it as fast or furiously spent. Two Bush wars will cost us
3
trillion from what I last heard. How much are we looking at
spending
on health care in eight years, 1.2 trillion.

Seems to me if you weren't shouting about the waste of money, blood
and resource while Bush was screwing the pooch, you don't have a
lot
of room to bitch now.

My right to bitch about the waste that is going on. Not happy about
the
wars, but that does not excuse spending my children's and my
grandchildren's
and most likely my great grandchildren's money. Before they even get
money.
How much is this administrations spending going to cost my 18 month
old
granddaughter?

What did the wars buy your grandchildren?

What will insurance reform buy your grandchildren?

And you ****ed and moaned about which one, grandpa?

What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to
the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip.

Must've pressed a button.

He thinks the government needs to make a profit on health care.

Yup, pressed a button. To even insinuate that the Government can provide
health care cheaper is idiocy.

It's gonna happen Bill so we'll see. Maybe we'll put a ridiculously
compensated CEO at the head just to drive you completely bonkers.

Yup, another Czar.

Oh no, I'm not talking Federal Czar pay, I'm talking 10s of millions
of dollars to run an organization poorly and overpay all the executive
help.

That'd mirror the efficiency achieved by many in private industry.

On Nov 11, 12:42*am, jps wrote:


We're ****ed. *Aren't you glad knowing that the 1% got there's before
China cashed in their chips?


What? No chastisment from D'Plume?

"Whooo... now you're swearing.... you really need to get a grip. "

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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Nov 11, 12:42 am, jps wrote:


We're ****ed. Aren't you glad knowing that the 1% got there's before
China cashed in their chips?


What? No chastisment from D'Plume?


Did he say "you're ****ed" or "we're ****ed"?

Is English a second language for you?

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Nom=de=Plume

On Nov 13, 12:57*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


What ****ing insurance reform? Just changes the path of the money to the
healthcare professionals, with the government running it as bad as the
rest it's business.

Whooo... now you'reswearing.... you really need to get a grip.

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Nom=de=Plume
Wait until your friend JPS gets started. Will you tell him to get a
grip as well?

I defer to you to police Usenet. Do you condone using such language?
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Nom=de=Plume


You have repeated it yourself. Evidently you condone it. For at least
from someone whom you must be comfortable with.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:07:17 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Nov 11, 12:42 am, jps wrote:


We're ****ed. Aren't you glad knowing that the 1% got there's before
China cashed in their chips?


What? No chastisment from D'Plume?


Did he say "you're ****ed" or "we're ****ed"?

Is English a second language for you?

Thinking is certainly foreign to him, why not language too?