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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:07:31 -0600, Vic Smith
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:36:39 -0800, jps wrote:



They better clean Dobbs' house too, since his Mexican-American wife
and her Mexican-American parents live there.
Dobbs has never been anti-hispanic, just anti-illegal.
Anybody who has watched his show knows that.
But I won't forgive him for the birther bull****.

--Vic

I do not believe the Hispanic community agrees with you. Either you
or they are watching him more closely. I can't stand watching him or
his bimbo stand in.

The "Hispanic community" wants amnesty for illegals - for the
Hispanics anyway. Dobbs doesn't.
That's all it is. Personally I'm with Dobbs on that.
It's got nothing to do with race, but with law and its purpose.
The main purpose being I don't want to go through 5 ****ing language
selections when I make a phone call.
This ain't Yugoslavia.

--Vic

The "Hispanic Community" is guided by a bunch of liberals looking for
votes. The folks *in* the community are led to believe the Republicans
are trying to persecute them by taking action against illegal aliens.
The folks *in* the communty don't have the sense to realize that the
job market is just that - a market. They can't seem to realize that
the millions of illegal aliens are making it much more difficult for
the *legal* immigrants to find work.


Yeah, my doctor friends from Ireland are really upset they can't get work as
gardeners...

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"Johnson" wrote in message
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just about everyone is against anti-illegal immigration.

Got to think about this one.

Let's see. If I'm anti-illegal immigration, then I'm against illegal
immigration. Ok, makes sense.

If I'm *against* anti-illegal immigration, then I must be for illegal
immigration.


Johnson


Are you against againstness?

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"Jack" wrote in message
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On Nov 12, 8:09 am, Johnson wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
just about everyone is against anti-illegal immigration.

Got to think about this one.

Let's see. If I'm anti-illegal immigration, then I'm against illegal
immigration. Ok, makes sense.

If I'm *against* anti-illegal immigration, then I must be for illegal
immigration.

Johnson

Give her a break, she's a little ditzy. OK, a lot ditzy.


A little...

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:56 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:40:40 -0600, Vic Smith
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:38:43 -0800, jps wrote:



Dobbs goes beyond the illegal alien fight, using language that
identifies his target's cultural identity a little too acutely.

You mean if an illegal is from Mexico he calls him a Mexican illegal?
Blasphemy!

He also doesn't seem to spend much time on the downside of kicking all
these low-wage workers out of the country.

You mean like mowing your own lawn and doing your own laundry?
Anyway, the economy is pretty complicated.
Who knows what the impact of the illegal labor is?

I know there's a huge workforce that picks most of our fruits and
vegetables for far lower wages than our fellow citizens are used to
getting paid. They also provide domestic help as you pointed out.
While you or I may replace our gardener (I don't have one) in tough
times, think of all the entrepreneurs who'd be **** out of luck if
they couldn't underpay someone to service their customers. Doesn't
help "small business" much.

I suspect that citizens or legal immigrants would have picked up much
of the slack.
Saw a news article a couple months ago about anglos working picking
fruit. Colorado I think. It's the economy.....

They were Mexicans in white face paid by Lou Dobbs.

He's just a little too hopped up. Now it looks like he's having to
bark outside the tent of a different circus.

I don't see a place for him. Given his birther madness, Fox probably
comes closest. Maybe they can turn him totally insane.

If anyone can push Lou into an onscreen heart attack, it'd be Fox.

Hannity will be glad to help him edit footage.


No, it is CBS that edits tapes. Puts sparklers in gas tanks to show they
explode, etc.

Oh, are you now disagreeing with Hannity? He admitted they'd doctored
the piece last night and admitted they were wrong. Fell far short of
an actual admission tho', he said it was inadvertent.

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:56 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:40:40 -0600, Vic Smith
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:38:43 -0800, jps wrote:

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No, it is CBS that edits tapes. Puts sparklers in gas tanks to show they
explode, etc.


Wasn't that NBC, Bill? Of course, CBS has had its shinning moments of
Murrow-esque reporting...

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:56 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:40:40 -0600, Vic Smith
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:38:43 -0800, jps wrote:

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No, it is CBS that edits tapes. Puts sparklers in gas tanks to show they
explode, etc.


Wasn't that NBC, Bill? Of course, CBS has had its shinning moments of
Murrow-esque reporting...


Was there something wrong with Murrow's reporting or commentary?

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:39:33 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:56 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:40:40 -0600, Vic Smith
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:38:43 -0800, jps wrote:

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No, it is CBS that edits tapes. Puts sparklers in gas tanks to show they
explode, etc.


Wasn't that NBC, Bill? Of course, CBS has had its shinning moments of
Murrow-esque reporting...


Was there something wrong with Murrow's reporting or commentary?

Not in my opinion, Em. My statement was intended to be facetious.
Apparently I need to go back to the drawing board. ( I had RatherGate
in mind when I wrote that.)

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:39:33 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:31:56 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:40:40 -0600, Vic Smith
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:38:43 -0800, jps wrote:

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No, it is CBS that edits tapes. Puts sparklers in gas tanks to show
they
explode, etc.


Wasn't that NBC, Bill? Of course, CBS has had its shinning moments of
Murrow-esque reporting...


Was there something wrong with Murrow's reporting or commentary?

Not in my opinion, Em. My statement was intended to be facetious.
Apparently I need to go back to the drawing board. ( I had RatherGate
in mind when I wrote that.)


heh... nah, it's ok. I always though Rather was a good reporter, but I was
never impressed with him as an anchor (boating reference?).

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:20:32 -0500, Johnson
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nom=de=plume wrote:


We need better border security and we need to start
enforcing the laws already on the books with greater vigor.

A nice thought, but incredibly naive.

In Freehold, NJ, there is a muster zone for these illegals. They hang
out there all day waiting for work, for some landscaper or other
business to pick them up. Cash trade.

The town decided to shut down the zone, and began regular patrols to
disperse the crowd:

"Day laborers filed a federal class action lawsuit alleging the borough
prevented workers from seeking employment. The lawsuit was filed on
behalf of day laborers, many of whom are Hispanic immigrants, after the
town shut down a muster zone where the laborers solicited work from area
contractors. The class claimed they were harassed and threatened with
police action for assembling at the location to scout work. The Borough
of Freehold has agreed to settle the case for $278,000." -Newsday

See? They were not illegal immigrants, they were "day laborers", and
*many* were "Hispanic immigrants". All working for cash, neither the
employer nor themselves paying the taxes they owe the government.

Now talk about enforcing the laws already on the books.

Johnson

Sure doesn't look like they were enforcing them in a way that could be
prosecuted. They just shut the area down.

That's the trouble with our democracy. You need to have proof of
illegal activities. They didn't want to go through the trouble.

Who are you going after next? Waitresses?

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:40:25 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"Johnson" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:


We need better border security and we need to start enforcing the laws
already on the books with greater vigor.

A nice thought, but incredibly naive.

No naive at all. You're saying we shouldn't enforce the law?


In Freehold, NJ, there is a muster zone for these illegals. They hang out
there all day waiting for work, for some landscaper or other business to
pick them up. Cash trade.

The town decided to shut down the zone, and began regular patrols to
disperse the crowd:

"Day laborers filed a federal class action lawsuit alleging the borough
prevented workers from seeking employment. The lawsuit was filed on behalf
of day laborers, many of whom are Hispanic immigrants, after the town shut
down a muster zone where the laborers solicited work from area
contractors. The class claimed they were harassed and threatened with
police action for assembling at the location to scout work. The Borough of
Freehold has agreed to settle the case for $278,000." -Newsday

See? They were not illegal immigrants, they were "day laborers", and
*many* were "Hispanic immigrants". All working for cash, neither the
employer nor themselves paying the taxes they owe the government.

Now talk about enforcing the laws already on the books.

It's called due process. You can't shut down a whole class of people because
of a suspected illegal activity.

I'm not familiar with the specifics. Sounds like someone in the town screwed
up.

Exactly.

Lazy fools who don't understand the law. "Let's just shut it down!"

They cost the community nearly $300,000 because of their stupidity,
and Johnson uses it as a pillar in his argument against illegals.

Duh.