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I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.



Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.


My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).



I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.

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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).



I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty fed
up
with her before McCain tapped her.



That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.



A big drop...

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/542179.html


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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).



I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty fed
up
with her before McCain tapped her.



That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.



Here's another... look at the second chart.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuck..._b_198658.html

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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:33:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).



I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.



That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.


They picked her because she was a "babe" in Kawasaki glasses who could
put on a good snark attack. The Minnesota-like speech pattern worked
well at introduction but wore thin with repeated exposure.

She's parlaying her popularity into something, probably radio or
television. The hard cores will tune in. Competition for Rush?

She'll need to secure something quickly before the bloom is completely
off the rose.
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:26:06 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:33:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good.
McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an
experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according
to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped
considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty
fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.


They picked her because she was a "babe" in Kawasaki glasses who could
put on a good snark attack. The Minnesota-like speech pattern worked
well at introduction but wore thin with repeated exposure.

She's parlaying her popularity into something, probably radio or
television. The hard cores will tune in. Competition for Rush?

She'll need to secure something quickly before the bloom is completely
off the rose.



My bet, Fox TV show.



She'll have to compete with Dobbs for the job...


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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:42:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:26:06 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:33:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:17:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:32:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter"
trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles)
and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't
seen that guy yet.
I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were
going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good.
McCain
was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an
experiment.
If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star.


Actually, the people in Alaska were pretty fed up with her, according
to
polls just before she resigned. Her popularity had dropped
considerably.

My point was, if she had ducked the nomination and stayed in Alaska
she would still be a star. I think all the negative publicity for her
hurt Alaska. (although I bet a few more people probably got out of
their car in Wasilla and walked around, on their way to Denali).


I don't think that would have been the case. They were getting pretty
fed up
with her before McCain tapped her.


That is not true at all. We are rewriting history now.
Polls had her as the most popular governor in the country in the
summer of 08. That is why they picked her.

They picked her because she was a "babe" in Kawasaki glasses who could
put on a good snark attack. The Minnesota-like speech pattern worked
well at introduction but wore thin with repeated exposure.

She's parlaying her popularity into something, probably radio or
television. The hard cores will tune in. Competition for Rush?

She'll need to secure something quickly before the bloom is completely
off the rose.



My bet, Fox TV show.


She'll have to compete with Dobbs for the job...


Was it Jon Stewart who was skewering Fox for Geraldo being the voice
of reason? Are pigs flying now?

Maybe he's protecting his turf from John Stossel, although neither is
a voice of reason in the real world. Just at Fox News.
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