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President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office and already talk about Hillary is starting up. Heh - how about that. |
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On 11/12/09 6:35 AM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office and already talk about Hillary is starting up. Heh - how about that. From Blankley? A rightie? Of course. "Talk..." Nice try, moron. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office and already talk about Hillary is starting up. Heh - how about that. It's just talk. She's said that she isn't interested. Of course, anything can change in politics, but it's unlikely she'd run against an incumbent pres. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 11/14/09 8:35 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office and already talk about Hillary is starting up. Heh - how about that. Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a failure as President? What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of State? If not, will she be fired or resign? My money is on her getting fired within 6 months. Based upon what? Your educational background in polisci? -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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On 11/15/09 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:55 -0500, wrote: In , says... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office and already talk about Hillary is starting up. Heh - how about that. Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a failure as President? What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of State? If not, will she be fired or resign? My money is on her getting fired within 6 months. She won't be fired but I still would not be surprised to see her leave around 2011 "to spend more time with her family". (and perhaps get her campaign back on track) It really all depends on how successful Obama is by then. If he is perceived as being unbeatable she will probably stay on. Hillary isn't going to mount a campaign against a sitting US President who is a member of her party. What might happen is this, though: Joe Biden is 67 and will be 70 in 2012. He may not want another term as VP, or his health might deteriorate. Hillary Clinton is 62 and will be 65 in 2012. She might be interested in the VP seat. As far as I know, she has no significant health issues. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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... On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:55 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office and already talk about Hillary is starting up. Heh - how about that. Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a failure as President? What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of State? If not, will she be fired or resign? My money is on her getting fired within 6 months. She won't be fired but I still would not be surprised to see her leave around 2011 "to spend more time with her family". (and perhaps get her campaign back on track) It really all depends on how successful Obama is by then. If he is perceived as being unbeatable she will probably stay on. I don't know her future plans for staying as Sec. State. You're probably right that she, like most in such a position, continually reevaluate. She's said she isn't interested in running for Pres., at least not in 2016. She would be too old by then. I'd say 2012 is out also, but if nothing else, for logistical reasons. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 11/15/09 4:59 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:32:44 -0500, H the wrote: On 11/15/09 12:25 PM, wrote: On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:35:55 -0500, wrote: In , says... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...012_99101.html President Obama hasn't even made it through his first year in office and already talk about Hillary is starting up. Heh - how about that. Was Hillary smart to be suckered out of the Senate and into the Obama administration? Can she resign in disgust and still run against Obama successfully in 2012? Or, would she have been better off staying in the Senate and being a loyal Democrat and then turning when Obama became a failure as President? What are the odds that she will serve out the full four years as Sec of State? If not, will she be fired or resign? My money is on her getting fired within 6 months. She won't be fired but I still would not be surprised to see her leave around 2011 "to spend more time with her family". (and perhaps get her campaign back on track) It really all depends on how successful Obama is by then. If he is perceived as being unbeatable she will probably stay on. Hillary isn't going to mount a campaign against a sitting US President who is a member of her party. What might happen is this, though: Joe Biden is 67 and will be 70 in 2012. He may not want another term as VP, or his health might deteriorate. Hillary Clinton is 62 and will be 65 in 2012. She might be interested in the VP seat. As far as I know, she has no significant health issues. I think the only way it happens is if Obama ends up in "Carter" trouble. (Malaise and stagflation, with foreign policy in shambles) and if the GOP actually came up with a credible candidate. I haven't seen that guy yet. I still say the GOP threw away the last election, assuming they were going to lose anyway and not wanting to sacrifice anyone good. McCain was still going to be in the senate and Palin was just an experiment. If she had stayed in Alaska she would still be a star. I don't think the GOP had anyone really good in 2008, and I haven't seen anyone emerge who has the potential of being really good. Romney continues to make a fool of himself. Palin continues to make a fool of herself. Gingrich has integrity and old marital issues that will knock him out of contention. Plus, the GOP is being pushed further and further to the right by the evangelicals and other extremist lunatics. Look what they are trying to do to Charlie Crist in Florida. Crist is a popular guy who has done a reasonable job as governor of Florida, and a fellow who could attract a lot of Dem and Indy voters. He would win the Senate seat. So, what are the GOP nutcases doing? Trying to derail him. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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