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I can't say I disagree. We're all pawns with illusions of
belonging...


Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:47 — Alice X - Choms...

Anyone who has no authority over the nature of their work is working
class. They are the majority in this country and I commiserate with
them.

Between 60% and 80% depending on how you count.

The Capitalist class, which is ONE PER CENT, has found it useful to
make the majority of people THINK they, the workers are actually
MIDDLE CLASS.

Middle managers, professional specialists with some authority over the
nature of their work, they are middle class. They are far fewer than
imagined.

Small business owners technically are of the Capitalist class but I
would suggest that if they ever work next to their employees, and that
happens with somewhere generally fewer than twenty workers, then they
might be stated as being in the middle class.

The middle class may side with the workers or they may side with the
Capitalists, and that is not so surprising.

What is is astonishing is that ANY working class person would side
with the Capitalists and yet that is what we have with Reagan
Democrats and Southern strategy Republican converts of the rural
South.

It was not so with FDR who united the working class of north and
south. The Republican party almost disappeared.

But the political parties have devolved very much from then,
particularly the Democrats.

I am distressed that the working class are hoodwinked into thinking
that:

1) - the Republican party, one faction of the Party of Power and
Privilege, has anything but scorn for working class people.

2) - that someone with no qualifications for the job, could be
president. But then Sarah Palin is a Theocrat. No qualifications other
than faith are needed.

But I am equally distressed that so many people on the apparent left
are hoodwinked into believing that the Democratic party, long the
other faction of the Party of Power and Privilege has anything but
scorn for working class people EITHER. We have just witnessed the most
massive transfer of wealth in the history of the world, the Bankster
bailouts, this at the hands of the first black President. The
Capitalist class is thrilled with the Democrats so far.

It is class warfare and the working class has lost, completely.

As Jay Gould said: I can hire half of the working class to kill the
other half.

Today the Robber Barons don't even need hire us. The process of divide
and conquer is all junk politics which is what the Capitalist class
prefers.
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On Nov 19, 9:23*pm, jps wrote:
I can't say I disagree. *We're all pawns with illusions of
belonging...

Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:47 — Alice X - Choms...

Anyone who has no authority over the nature of their work is working
class. They are the majority in this country and I commiserate with
them.

Between 60% and 80% depending on how you count.

The Capitalist class, which is ONE PER CENT, has found it useful to
make the majority of people THINK they, the workers are actually
MIDDLE CLASS.

Middle managers, professional specialists with some authority over the
nature of their work, they are middle class. They are far fewer than
imagined.

Small business owners technically are of the Capitalist class but I
would suggest that if they ever work next to their employees, and that
happens with somewhere generally fewer than twenty workers, then they
might be stated as being in the middle class.

The middle class may side with the workers or they may side with the
Capitalists, and that is not so surprising.

What is is astonishing is that ANY working class person would side
with the Capitalists and yet that is what we have with Reagan
Democrats and Southern strategy Republican converts of the rural
South.

It was not so with FDR who united the working class of north and
south. The Republican party almost disappeared.

But the political parties have devolved very much from then,
particularly the Democrats.

I am distressed that the working class are hoodwinked into thinking
that:

1) - the Republican party, one faction of the Party of Power and
Privilege, has anything but scorn for working class people.

2) - that someone with no qualifications for the job, could be
president. But then Sarah Palin is a Theocrat. No qualifications other
than faith are needed.

But I am equally distressed that so many people on the apparent left
are hoodwinked into believing that the Democratic party, long the
other faction of the Party of Power and Privilege has anything but
scorn for working class people EITHER. We have just witnessed the most
massive transfer of wealth in the history of the world, the Bankster
bailouts, this at the hands of the first black President. The
Capitalist class is thrilled with the Democrats so far.

It is class warfare and the working class has lost, completely.

As Jay Gould said: I can hire half of the working class to kill the
other half.

Today the Robber Barons don't even need hire us. The process of divide
and conquer is all junk politics which is what the Capitalist class
prefers.


Nobody is stopping people from working for themselves. Most people
are simply mentally unfit to actually work for themselves but they
spend time complaining about the people who do start businesses and
give them jobs. If you hate working for somebody else, quitcher
bitchin and work for yourself.
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On Nov 19, 9:46*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 19, 9:23*pm, jps wrote:



I can't say I disagree. *We're all pawns with illusions of
belonging...


Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:47 — Alice X - Choms...


Anyone who has no authority over the nature of their work is working
class. They are the majority in this country and I commiserate with
them.


Between 60% and 80% depending on how you count.


The Capitalist class, which is ONE PER CENT, has found it useful to
make the majority of people THINK they, the workers are actually
MIDDLE CLASS.


Middle managers, professional specialists with some authority over the
nature of their work, they are middle class. They are far fewer than
imagined.


Small business owners technically are of the Capitalist class but I
would suggest that if they ever work next to their employees, and that
happens with somewhere generally fewer than twenty workers, then they
might be stated as being in the middle class.


The middle class may side with the workers or they may side with the
Capitalists, and that is not so surprising.


What is is astonishing is that ANY working class person would side
with the Capitalists and yet that is what we have with Reagan
Democrats and Southern strategy Republican converts of the rural
South.


It was not so with FDR who united the working class of north and
south. The Republican party almost disappeared.


But the political parties have devolved very much from then,
particularly the Democrats.


I am distressed that the working class are hoodwinked into thinking
that:


1) - the Republican party, one faction of the Party of Power and
Privilege, has anything but scorn for working class people.


2) - that someone with no qualifications for the job, could be
president. But then Sarah Palin is a Theocrat. No qualifications other
than faith are needed.


But I am equally distressed that so many people on the apparent left
are hoodwinked into believing that the Democratic party, long the
other faction of the Party of Power and Privilege has anything but
scorn for working class people EITHER. We have just witnessed the most
massive transfer of wealth in the history of the world, the Bankster
bailouts, this at the hands of the first black President. The
Capitalist class is thrilled with the Democrats so far.


It is class warfare and the working class has lost, completely.


As Jay Gould said: I can hire half of the working class to kill the
other half.


Today the Robber Barons don't even need hire us. The process of divide
and conquer is all junk politics which is what the Capitalist class
prefers.


Nobody is stopping people from working for themselves. *Most people
are simply mentally unfit to actually work for themselves but they
spend time complaining about the *people who do start businesses and
give them jobs. *If you hate working for somebody else, quitcher
bitchin and work for yourself.


Sarah Palin was a mayor of a town and a successful small business
owner and a governor. Obama had never done ANYTHING successfully
except run for senator once. He had no qualifications at all for the
job and has proven to be a total dunce. Palin is genius by
comparison. Obambi lives in some alternative universe where socialism
works.
In my ideal world, everybody would have to work for themselves for
awhile and THEN they could apply for jobs somewhere else. Nobody
should be able to work for the govt unless they have worked in
industry for a few years to get some idea of reality. Govt workers
are seriously overpaid by comparison to industry.
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"jps" wrote in message
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I can't say I disagree. We're all pawns with illusions of
belonging...


Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:47 - Alice X - Choms...

Anyone who has no authority over the nature of their work is working
class. They are the majority in this country and I commiserate with
them.

Between 60% and 80% depending on how you count.

The Capitalist class, which is ONE PER CENT, has found it useful to
make the majority of people THINK they, the workers are actually
MIDDLE CLASS.

Middle managers, professional specialists with some authority over the
nature of their work, they are middle class. They are far fewer than
imagined.

Small business owners technically are of the Capitalist class but I
would suggest that if they ever work next to their employees, and that
happens with somewhere generally fewer than twenty workers, then they
might be stated as being in the middle class.

The middle class may side with the workers or they may side with the
Capitalists, and that is not so surprising.

What is is astonishing is that ANY working class person would side
with the Capitalists and yet that is what we have with Reagan
Democrats and Southern strategy Republican converts of the rural
South.

It was not so with FDR who united the working class of north and
south. The Republican party almost disappeared.

But the political parties have devolved very much from then,
particularly the Democrats.

I am distressed that the working class are hoodwinked into thinking
that:

1) - the Republican party, one faction of the Party of Power and
Privilege, has anything but scorn for working class people.

2) - that someone with no qualifications for the job, could be
president. But then Sarah Palin is a Theocrat. No qualifications other
than faith are needed.

But I am equally distressed that so many people on the apparent left
are hoodwinked into believing that the Democratic party, long the
other faction of the Party of Power and Privilege has anything but
scorn for working class people EITHER. We have just witnessed the most
massive transfer of wealth in the history of the world, the Bankster
bailouts, this at the hands of the first black President. The
Capitalist class is thrilled with the Democrats so far.

It is class warfare and the working class has lost, completely.

As Jay Gould said: I can hire half of the working class to kill the
other half.

Today the Robber Barons don't even need hire us. The process of divide
and conquer is all junk politics which is what the Capitalist class
prefers.


Describing yourself? You own the business, capitalist pig.


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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:21:38 -0800, "CalifBill"
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"jps" wrote in message
.. .

I can't say I disagree. We're all pawns with illusions of
belonging...


Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:47 - Alice X - Choms...

Anyone who has no authority over the nature of their work is working
class. They are the majority in this country and I commiserate with
them.

Between 60% and 80% depending on how you count.

The Capitalist class, which is ONE PER CENT, has found it useful to
make the majority of people THINK they, the workers are actually
MIDDLE CLASS.

Middle managers, professional specialists with some authority over the
nature of their work, they are middle class. They are far fewer than
imagined.

Small business owners technically are of the Capitalist class but I
would suggest that if they ever work next to their employees, and that
happens with somewhere generally fewer than twenty workers, then they
might be stated as being in the middle class.

The middle class may side with the workers or they may side with the
Capitalists, and that is not so surprising.

What is is astonishing is that ANY working class person would side
with the Capitalists and yet that is what we have with Reagan
Democrats and Southern strategy Republican converts of the rural
South.

It was not so with FDR who united the working class of north and
south. The Republican party almost disappeared.

But the political parties have devolved very much from then,
particularly the Democrats.

I am distressed that the working class are hoodwinked into thinking
that:

1) - the Republican party, one faction of the Party of Power and
Privilege, has anything but scorn for working class people.

2) - that someone with no qualifications for the job, could be
president. But then Sarah Palin is a Theocrat. No qualifications other
than faith are needed.

But I am equally distressed that so many people on the apparent left
are hoodwinked into believing that the Democratic party, long the
other faction of the Party of Power and Privilege has anything but
scorn for working class people EITHER. We have just witnessed the most
massive transfer of wealth in the history of the world, the Bankster
bailouts, this at the hands of the first black President. The
Capitalist class is thrilled with the Democrats so far.

It is class warfare and the working class has lost, completely.

As Jay Gould said: I can hire half of the working class to kill the
other half.

Today the Robber Barons don't even need hire us. The process of divide
and conquer is all junk politics which is what the Capitalist class
prefers.


Describing yourself? You own the business, capitalist pig.


Ah, I'm quite a ways from the 1%. Thanks for the vote of confidence.


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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:16:18 -0800, "CalifBill"
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"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:21:38 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...

I can't say I disagree. We're all pawns with illusions of
belonging...


Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:47 - Alice X - Choms...

Anyone who has no authority over the nature of their work is working
class. They are the majority in this country and I commiserate with
them.

Between 60% and 80% depending on how you count.

The Capitalist class, which is ONE PER CENT, has found it useful to
make the majority of people THINK they, the workers are actually
MIDDLE CLASS.

Middle managers, professional specialists with some authority over the
nature of their work, they are middle class. They are far fewer than
imagined.

Small business owners technically are of the Capitalist class but I
would suggest that if they ever work next to their employees, and that
happens with somewhere generally fewer than twenty workers, then they
might be stated as being in the middle class.

The middle class may side with the workers or they may side with the
Capitalists, and that is not so surprising.

What is is astonishing is that ANY working class person would side
with the Capitalists and yet that is what we have with Reagan
Democrats and Southern strategy Republican converts of the rural
South.

It was not so with FDR who united the working class of north and
south. The Republican party almost disappeared.

But the political parties have devolved very much from then,
particularly the Democrats.

I am distressed that the working class are hoodwinked into thinking
that:

1) - the Republican party, one faction of the Party of Power and
Privilege, has anything but scorn for working class people.

2) - that someone with no qualifications for the job, could be
president. But then Sarah Palin is a Theocrat. No qualifications other
than faith are needed.

But I am equally distressed that so many people on the apparent left
are hoodwinked into believing that the Democratic party, long the
other faction of the Party of Power and Privilege has anything but
scorn for working class people EITHER. We have just witnessed the most
massive transfer of wealth in the history of the world, the Bankster
bailouts, this at the hands of the first black President. The
Capitalist class is thrilled with the Democrats so far.

It is class warfare and the working class has lost, completely.

As Jay Gould said: I can hire half of the working class to kill the
other half.

Today the Robber Barons don't even need hire us. The process of divide
and conquer is all junk politics which is what the Capitalist class
prefers.

Describing yourself? You own the business, capitalist pig.


Ah, I'm quite a ways from the 1%. Thanks for the vote of confidence.


You said nada about the 1% you stated the capitalist robber barons. And
since you the the CEO of a corporation, that includes you in the RB list.


I'm not wasting time with you tonight. Sorry.
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:21:38 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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I can't say I disagree. We're all pawns with illusions of
belonging...


Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:47 - Alice X - Choms...

Anyone who has no authority over the nature of their work is working
class. They are the majority in this country and I commiserate with
them.

Between 60% and 80% depending on how you count.

The Capitalist class, which is ONE PER CENT, has found it useful to
make the majority of people THINK they, the workers are actually
MIDDLE CLASS.

Middle managers, professional specialists with some authority over the
nature of their work, they are middle class. They are far fewer than
imagined.

Small business owners technically are of the Capitalist class but I
would suggest that if they ever work next to their employees, and that
happens with somewhere generally fewer than twenty workers, then they
might be stated as being in the middle class.

The middle class may side with the workers or they may side with the
Capitalists, and that is not so surprising.

What is is astonishing is that ANY working class person would side
with the Capitalists and yet that is what we have with Reagan
Democrats and Southern strategy Republican converts of the rural
South.

It was not so with FDR who united the working class of north and
south. The Republican party almost disappeared.

But the political parties have devolved very much from then,
particularly the Democrats.

I am distressed that the working class are hoodwinked into thinking
that:

1) - the Republican party, one faction of the Party of Power and
Privilege, has anything but scorn for working class people.

2) - that someone with no qualifications for the job, could be
president. But then Sarah Palin is a Theocrat. No qualifications other
than faith are needed.

But I am equally distressed that so many people on the apparent left
are hoodwinked into believing that the Democratic party, long the
other faction of the Party of Power and Privilege has anything but
scorn for working class people EITHER. We have just witnessed the most
massive transfer of wealth in the history of the world, the Bankster
bailouts, this at the hands of the first black President. The
Capitalist class is thrilled with the Democrats so far.

It is class warfare and the working class has lost, completely.

As Jay Gould said: I can hire half of the working class to kill the
other half.

Today the Robber Barons don't even need hire us. The process of divide
and conquer is all junk politics which is what the Capitalist class
prefers.


Describing yourself? You own the business, capitalist pig.


Ah, I'm quite a ways from the 1%. Thanks for the vote of confidence.


You said nada about the 1% you stated the capitalist robber barons. And
since you the the CEO of a corporation, that includes you in the RB list.


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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:16:18 -0800, "CalifBill"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:21:38 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...

I can't say I disagree. We're all pawns with illusions of
belonging...


Sun, 11/15/2009 - 11:47 - Alice X - Choms...

Anyone who has no authority over the nature of their work is working
class. They are the majority in this country and I commiserate with
them.

Between 60% and 80% depending on how you count.

The Capitalist class, which is ONE PER CENT, has found it useful to
make the majority of people THINK they, the workers are actually
MIDDLE CLASS.

Middle managers, professional specialists with some authority over the
nature of their work, they are middle class. They are far fewer than
imagined.

Small business owners technically are of the Capitalist class but I
would suggest that if they ever work next to their employees, and that
happens with somewhere generally fewer than twenty workers, then they
might be stated as being in the middle class.

The middle class may side with the workers or they may side with the
Capitalists, and that is not so surprising.

What is is astonishing is that ANY working class person would side
with the Capitalists and yet that is what we have with Reagan
Democrats and Southern strategy Republican converts of the rural
South.

It was not so with FDR who united the working class of north and
south. The Republican party almost disappeared.

But the political parties have devolved very much from then,
particularly the Democrats.

I am distressed that the working class are hoodwinked into thinking
that:

1) - the Republican party, one faction of the Party of Power and
Privilege, has anything but scorn for working class people.

2) - that someone with no qualifications for the job, could be
president. But then Sarah Palin is a Theocrat. No qualifications other
than faith are needed.

But I am equally distressed that so many people on the apparent left
are hoodwinked into believing that the Democratic party, long the
other faction of the Party of Power and Privilege has anything but
scorn for working class people EITHER. We have just witnessed the most
massive transfer of wealth in the history of the world, the Bankster
bailouts, this at the hands of the first black President. The
Capitalist class is thrilled with the Democrats so far.

It is class warfare and the working class has lost, completely.

As Jay Gould said: I can hire half of the working class to kill the
other half.

Today the Robber Barons don't even need hire us. The process of divide
and conquer is all junk politics which is what the Capitalist class
prefers.

Describing yourself? You own the business, capitalist pig.

Ah, I'm quite a ways from the 1%. Thanks for the vote of confidence.


You said nada about the 1% you stated the capitalist robber barons. And
since you the the CEO of a corporation, that includes you in the RB list.


I'm not wasting time with you tonight. Sorry.


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