"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:31:44 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:09:55 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 20, 2:59 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 20, 12:57 pm, jps wrote:



On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:33:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Nov 20, 1:58 am, jps wrote:
This is hard to believe so many are unwilling to believe but I
suppose
it's possible...

When Doug Hoffman blamed ACORN for his loss in the NY-23 special
House
election, he was apparently channeling the GOP base. A new Public
Policy Polling survey found that a majority of Republican voters
think
that ACORN stole the presidential election for Barack Obama last
year.
Fifty-two percent of national GOPers said ACORN stole Obama the
presidency; only 27% think he won it legitimately.

Overall, 62% of Americans think Obama legitimately won the
election.
Only 26% think ACORN stole it for him, with most Democrats and
independents dismissing the idea.

TPM's Eric Kleefeld points out that, given the 53% to 46% divide
between Obama and Sen. John McCain in the 2008 race, "in order to
believe that Obama wasn't the true winner of the 2008 election,
one
would have to think that ACORN (and perhaps other groups) stuffed
ballots to the tune of over 9.5 million votes."

Dave Weigel writes that this idea has been circulating among
conservatives for a while.

OK. lets look at this. Several precincts reported zero votes for
Hoffman but checking after his concession revealed he had numerous
votes in them. Sure sounds suspicious to me. The reported totals on
election night on which he based his concession turned out to be
wildly wrong, seems kinda suspicious to me. ACORN has been involved
in vote fraud all across the USA so ti seems like a reasonable
conjecture considering the circumstances.

You are such a liar. Acorn doesn't fill out ballots, they register
people to vote.

Where the hell do you get your information, Worldnet Daily?

Please go to your local Acorn office and inquire. You're a poorly
informed citizen and I think you need to pick up your game.

Fraud still. They were prosecuted in FL They were found guilty of
fraud In MS and in Missouri.
jps needs to follow the news, even the lamestream media covered the
frauds of ACORN.

Look he
http://www.postonpolitics.com/2009/0...ted-for-fraud/
Fraud.

WERE THERE ANY FRAUDULENT VOTES CAST?

Yes, I'm yelling.

Well shutup and listen. Maybe they were acorn precinct workers. Those
counting the votes. How can a precinct report zero votes when there were
numerous votes for the candidate? Fraud?

Do you have a collection of tin hats?

What in God's name made you think that Acorn workers would get
themselves jobs as precinct workers and screw with the vote totals?

You have dipped a whole leg in a pool of insanity.

That's bat**** crazy. You're approaching Virginia Foxx territory.

Because they can get jobs as precinct workers and get paid to influence the
election. Chicago politics at it's finest.

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:49:41 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:31:44 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:09:55 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Nov 20, 2:59 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 20, 12:57 pm, jps wrote:



On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:33:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Nov 20, 1:58 am, jps wrote:
This is hard to believe so many are unwilling to believe but I
suppose
it's possible...

When Doug Hoffman blamed ACORN for his loss in the NY-23 special
House
election, he was apparently channeling the GOP base. A new Public
Policy Polling survey found that a majority of Republican voters
think
that ACORN stole the presidential election for Barack Obama last
year.
Fifty-two percent of national GOPers said ACORN stole Obama the
presidency; only 27% think he won it legitimately.

Overall, 62% of Americans think Obama legitimately won the
election.
Only 26% think ACORN stole it for him, with most Democrats and
independents dismissing the idea.

TPM's Eric Kleefeld points out that, given the 53% to 46% divide
between Obama and Sen. John McCain in the 2008 race, "in order to
believe that Obama wasn't the true winner of the 2008 election,
one
would have to think that ACORN (and perhaps other groups) stuffed
ballots to the tune of over 9.5 million votes."

Dave Weigel writes that this idea has been circulating among
conservatives for a while.

OK. lets look at this. Several precincts reported zero votes for
Hoffman but checking after his concession revealed he had numerous
votes in them. Sure sounds suspicious to me. The reported totals on
election night on which he based his concession turned out to be
wildly wrong, seems kinda suspicious to me. ACORN has been involved
in vote fraud all across the USA so ti seems like a reasonable
conjecture considering the circumstances.

You are such a liar. Acorn doesn't fill out ballots, they register
people to vote.

Where the hell do you get your information, Worldnet Daily?

Please go to your local Acorn office and inquire. You're a poorly
informed citizen and I think you need to pick up your game.

Fraud still. They were prosecuted in FL They were found guilty of
fraud In MS and in Missouri.
jps needs to follow the news, even the lamestream media covered the
frauds of ACORN.

Look he
http://www.postonpolitics.com/2009/0...ted-for-fraud/
Fraud.

WERE THERE ANY FRAUDULENT VOTES CAST?

Yes, I'm yelling.

Well shutup and listen. Maybe they were acorn precinct workers. Those
counting the votes. How can a precinct report zero votes when there were
numerous votes for the candidate? Fraud?

Do you have a collection of tin hats?

What in God's name made you think that Acorn workers would get
themselves jobs as precinct workers and screw with the vote totals?

You have dipped a whole leg in a pool of insanity.

That's bat**** crazy. You're approaching Virginia Foxx territory.

Because they can get jobs as precinct workers and get paid to influence the
election. Chicago politics at it's finest.

Okay, I get it. You have a whole hat rack full of tin foil
appurtences to fit the cranium?

You are nuts and I defy you to come up with any proof of your claim.
Not of Chicago politics but of Acorn "operatives" getting jobs as poll
workers to tip elections.

And then tell me exactly how they tipped the balances in NY 23?

For Obama in 2008?

You are making your way to a Loony Lib label, but in this case Lib
stands for Libertarian. I do think you'd be comfy among them.

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:33:57 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:


OK. lets look at this. Several precincts reported zero votes for
Hoffman but checking after his concession revealed he had numerous votes
in them. Sure sounds suspicious to me. The reported totals on election
night on which he based his concession turned out to be wildly wrong,
seems kinda suspicious to me. ACORN has been involved in vote fraud all
across the USA so ti seems like a reasonable conjecture considering the
circumstances.

Only one problem, ACORN wasn't in NY 23. You also overlook the fact that
besides ACORN, Hoffman has blamed the unions, the Democrats, and even a
computer virus for his loss, everything except the voters who preferred a
Democrat for the first time in 150 years.

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:06:37 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:33:57 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:


OK. lets look at this. Several precincts reported zero votes for
Hoffman but checking after his concession revealed he had numerous votes
in them. Sure sounds suspicious to me. The reported totals on election
night on which he based his concession turned out to be wildly wrong,
seems kinda suspicious to me. ACORN has been involved in vote fraud all
across the USA so ti seems like a reasonable conjecture considering the
circumstances.

Only one problem, ACORN wasn't in NY 23. You also overlook the fact that
besides ACORN, Hoffman has blamed the unions, the Democrats, and even a
computer virus for his loss, everything except the voters who preferred a
Democrat for the first time in 150 years.

This resonates with the birther movement. Acorn is another made up
excuse for sore losers to blame some fantasy bogeyman. They're not
the only ones with workers who try to falsify voter registrations to
get paid.

What's important to know is that they don't result in fraudulent
votes. How this gets stretched from dregs trying to make a few
dishonest dollars to voter fraud is a disingenuous fabrication.

Everyone who promotes it knows it's bull****. Whomever believes them
is a fool or purposefully ignorant.

jps wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:06:37 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:33:57 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:


OK. lets look at this. Several precincts reported zero votes for
Hoffman but checking after his concession revealed he had numerous votes
in them. Sure sounds suspicious to me. The reported totals on election
night on which he based his concession turned out to be wildly wrong,
seems kinda suspicious to me. ACORN has been involved in vote fraud all
across the USA so ti seems like a reasonable conjecture considering the
circumstances.
Only one problem, ACORN wasn't in NY 23. You also overlook the fact that
besides ACORN, Hoffman has blamed the unions, the Democrats, and even a
computer virus for his loss, everything except the voters who preferred a
Democrat for the first time in 150 years.

This resonates with the birther movement. Acorn is another made up
excuse for sore losers to blame some fantasy bogeyman. They're not
the only ones with workers who try to falsify voter registrations to
get paid.

What's important to know is that they don't result in fraudulent
votes. How this gets stretched from dregs trying to make a few
dishonest dollars to voter fraud is a disingenuous fabrication.

Everyone who promotes it knows it's bull****. Whomever believes them
is a fool or purposefully ignorant.

Very interesting comments. Will you please cite factual corroborating
testimony.