On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:51:01 -0500, lil abner wrote:

Don White wrote:
I was surfing my High Def channels before packing it in tonight and caught a
program called 'Lock & Load'.
It was about a family owned gun shop in Colorado and all the cusomers who
came in to try out & buy shootin' irons.
Couldn't believe it...I bet about 40% of the customers brought their small
children in...mostly toddlers. Some of the older (8-10 ) kids were passed
what looked like auto assault weapons to play with.
Man...talk about a gun culture...a lot of the customers already owned
numerous weapons.
Up here the cops and a local camera store are giving away Sony point & shoot
cameras for each handgun/rifle passed in. After the turned in guns are
examined and checked for any history, they are destroyed.


I wa brought up with firearms. I didn't handle or fire one until it was
determined I was safe with them.
My own kids went one, at a time, with me at 6. They hunted, with a gun,
while, I attended at about 7.
At ten they hunted squirrels alone behind the house.
Some kids, today, know nothing but tv. It depends on who raised them,
the tv, or parents, and where they live etc.
At 5 I was killing chickens, by wringing their necks and chores that
most Teenagers would whine and cry and not do.
I'm not sure what you saw. I won't accuse you of being socialist.
We frequently hear hand wringing and the sky is falling from the
socialist camp.

Do you live in historical Russia?

Not being in favor of the proliferation of handguns and their
availablity to nutcases does not a socialist make.

I endorse your interest in shooting small defenseless animals if
that's what floats your boat, or hunting for food. I even endorse
your ability to have firearms to defend your life and property.

What I don't endorse is no check sales of firearms at uncontrolled
gun shows and lax gun shops.

What I don't endorse is all the money the NRA has spread around
Washington to promote laws that hinder our ability to wrestle with
this out-of-control problem. Maybe it's fine for you to watch as
people get killed in bunches, I'm not immune to the taking of innocent
lives.

4 cops, two of them trainers in SWAT. Armed, trained, getting ready
to go on duty, shot dead in cold blood by one asshole.

Normally, some dunderhead would be arguing that if ONE of those four
people had a gun, the gunman couldn't have killed all four.

Guess what? It's a ****ing specious argument that just got proven
wrong.

The cat is long out of the bag on this problem and I have not a clue
what to do. The NRA has pushed the availability so far beyond reason
that we're doomed to have to live with the consequences for years to
come.

Humans can be so ****ing short sighted. I'm not among that lot.