"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 Merc 40 long shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. The only thing there is the switch. I've searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition. Some say
great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? How much work is
involved in rebuilding one? I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about $600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great on me and
my broken back. Also make it easier to launch and recover and make ready
to tow.

Advice appreciated. Flames expected.

Steve
Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the other? Does
it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch is pushed?
Does it look like this?
http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20.cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it this summer
with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from the dealer.
I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and inspect and see
it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires that should
run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for voltage
(solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you have power
and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the brushes before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be something as
simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped the wires
from the solenoids.

"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 Merc 40 long shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. The only thing there is the switch. I've searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition. Some say
great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? How much work is
involved in rebuilding one? I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about $600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great on me and
my broken back. Also make it easier to launch and recover and make ready
to tow.

Advice appreciated. Flames expected.

Steve
Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the other?
Does it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch is
pushed?
Does it look like this?
http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20.cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it this summer
with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from the
dealer. I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and inspect
and see it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires that should
run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for voltage
(solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you have power
and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the brushes before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be something
as simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped the
wires from the solenoids.

Damn. I just don't understand it. I can't hear a thing. I press the
switches, but there is not a sound in the world back there. I put my head
right next to the motor and hit the up and down switch, but there is not a
click not a whirr.

What could it be? (Other than it's entirely been removed from the motor,
that is.)

Steve

On Dec 7, 1:23*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message

...



I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 *Merc 40 long shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. *The only thing there is the switch. *I've searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition. *Some say
great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? *How much work is
involved in rebuilding one? *I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about $600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great on me and
my broken back. *Also make it easier to launch and recover and make ready
to tow.

Advice appreciated. *Flames expected.

Steve

Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the other? Does
it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch is pushed?
Does it look like this?http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20..cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it this summer
with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from the dealer.
I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and inspect and see
it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires that should
run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for voltage
(solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you have power
and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the brushes before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be something as
simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped the wires
from the solenoids.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dudes. I'm not sure if that is the assembly or not, but the book
checks out to be for a 25-50 hp Mercury Marine Outboard.

Now IF the assembly is there, and IF all was needed was a motor. My
cost on the brand new motor itself is $97.67 and shipping. I can't
get any of the other components.

Steve, IF that's all that is needed, ;let me know and you have it at
my cost + bare bones shipping from the warehouse

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 7, 1:23 pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message

...



I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 Merc 40 long shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. The only thing there is the switch. I've searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition. Some say
great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? How much work is
involved in rebuilding one? I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about $600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great on me and
my broken back. Also make it easier to launch and recover and make ready
to tow.

Advice appreciated. Flames expected.

Steve

Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the other?
Does
it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch is
pushed?
Does it look like
this?http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20.cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it this summer
with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from the
dealer.
I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and inspect and see
it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires that should
run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for voltage
(solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you have power
and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the brushes before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be something
as
simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped the
wires
from the solenoids.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dudes. I'm not sure if that is the assembly or not, but the book
checks out to be for a 25-50 hp Mercury Marine Outboard.

Now IF the assembly is there, and IF all was needed was a motor. My
cost on the brand new motor itself is $97.67 and shipping. I can't
get any of the other components.

Steve, IF that's all that is needed, ;let me know and you have it at
my cost + bare bones shipping from the warehouse

reply: THE WHOLE TILT ASSEMBLY IS MISSING. REPEAT: THE WHOLE ENTIRE TILT
ASSEMBLY IS MISSING.

Steve

On Dec 7, 4:25*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 7, 1:23 pm, "mmc" wrote:



"Steve B" wrote in message

...

I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 Merc 40 long shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. The only thing there is the switch. I've searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition. Some say
great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? How much work is
involved in rebuilding one? I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about $600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great on me and
my broken back. Also make it easier to launch and recover and make ready
to tow.

Advice appreciated. Flames expected.

Steve

Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the other?
Does
it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch is
pushed?
Does it look like
this?http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20.cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it this summer
with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from the
dealer.
I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and inspect and see
it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires that should
run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for voltage
(solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you have power
and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the brushes before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be something
as
simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped the
wires
from the solenoids.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dudes. I'm not sure if that is the assembly or not, but the book
checks out to be for a 25-50 hp Mercury Marine Outboard.

Now IF the assembly is there, and IF all was needed was a motor. My
cost on the brand new motor itself is $97.67 and shipping. *I can't
get any of the other components.

Steve, IF that's all that is needed, ;let me know and you have it at
my cost + bare bones shipping from the warehouse

reply: *THE WHOLE TILT ASSEMBLY IS MISSING. *REPEAT: *THE WHOLE ENTIRE TILT
ASSEMBLY IS MISSING.

Steve



Uh, Steve. somethings getting lost in the translation:


"....Damn. I just don't understand it. I can't hear a thing. I
press the
switches, but there is not a sound in the world back there. I put my
head
right next to the motor and hit the up and down switch, but there is
not a
click not a whirr.

What could it be? (Other than it's entirely been removed from the
motor,
that is.)

Steve ..."

On Dec 7, 7:30*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 7, 4:25 pm, "Steve B" wrote:



"Tim" wrote in message

....
On Dec 7, 1:23 pm, "mmc" wrote:

"Steve B" wrote in message

...

I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 Merc 40 long
shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. The only thing there is the switch. I've searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition. Some
say
great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? How much work is
involved in rebuilding one? I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about $600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great on me
and
my broken back. Also make it easier to launch and recover and make
ready
to tow.

Advice appreciated. Flames expected.

Steve

Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the other?
Does
it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch is
pushed?
Does it look like
this?http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20.cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it this
summer
with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from the
dealer.
I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and inspect and
see
it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires that
should
run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for voltage
(solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you have
power
and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the brushes
before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be something
as
simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped the
wires
from the solenoids.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dudes. I'm not sure if that is the assembly or not, but the book
checks out to be for a 25-50 hp Mercury Marine Outboard.

Now IF the assembly is there, and IF all was needed was a motor. My
cost on the brand new motor itself is $97.67 and shipping. I can't
get any of the other components.

Steve, IF that's all that is needed, ;let me know and you have it at
my cost + bare bones shipping from the warehouse

reply: THE WHOLE TILT ASSEMBLY IS MISSING. REPEAT: THE WHOLE ENTIRE TILT
ASSEMBLY IS MISSING.

Steve

Uh, Steve. somethings getting lost in the translation:

"....Damn. *I just don't understand it. *I can't hear a thing. *I
press the
switches, but there is not a sound in the world back there. *I put my
head
right next to the motor and hit the up and down switch, but there is
not a
click not a whirr.

What could it be? *(Other than it's entirely been removed from the
motor,
that is.)

Steve ..."

reply: *Translation: *Motor is missing. *Someone asks for symptoms of how
motor ran.

Simple.

It ran off.

HTH, but I doubt it.

Steve

It did for me.

good luck!

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 7, 4:25 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 7, 1:23 pm, "mmc" wrote:



"Steve B" wrote in message

...

I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 Merc 40 long
shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. The only thing there is the switch. I've
searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition.
Some say
great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? How much
work is
involved in rebuilding one? I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about
$600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great
on me and
my broken back. Also make it easier to launch and recover and
make ready
to tow.

Advice appreciated. Flames expected.

Steve

Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the
other?
Does
it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch
is
pushed?
Does it look like
this?http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20.cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it
this summer
with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from
the
dealer.
I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and
inspect and see
it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires
that should
run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for
voltage
(solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you
have power
and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the
brushes before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be
something
as
simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped
the
wires
from the solenoids.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dudes. I'm not sure if that is the assembly or not, but the book
checks out to be for a 25-50 hp Mercury Marine Outboard.

Now IF the assembly is there, and IF all was needed was a motor. My
cost on the brand new motor itself is $97.67 and shipping. I can't
get any of the other components.

Steve, IF that's all that is needed, ;let me know and you have it
at
my cost + bare bones shipping from the warehouse

reply: THE WHOLE TILT ASSEMBLY IS MISSING. REPEAT: THE WHOLE ENTIRE
TILT
ASSEMBLY IS MISSING.

Steve



Uh, Steve. somethings getting lost in the translation:


"....Damn. I just don't understand it. I can't hear a thing. I
press the
switches, but there is not a sound in the world back there. I put
my
head
right next to the motor and hit the up and down switch, but there is
not a
click not a whirr.

What could it be? (Other than it's entirely been removed from the
motor,
that is.)

Steve ..."

reply: Translation: Motor is missing. Someone asks for symptoms
of how motor ran.

Simple.

It ran off.

HTH, but I doubt it.

Steve
So you look on Ebay, you call used parts places like twin cities
outboard
http://www.twincityoutboard.com/

We carry a full line of tilt and trim products. Below is a sample, we
have many more parts available; Contact us with your needs.



We carry the full line of ARCO starters and trim motors, as well as
units from the OEMs and other manufacturers. For aftermarket Tilt/Trim
units, we carry the Panther brand. We have found them to be both
durable, and much more attractive than the competition. We have been
selling these for a very long time, and they have proven to be the
best. We also carry the CMC brand for an economical alternative.



We also offer a good selection of used motors as well, however, in
most cases the price of new aftermarket units is making used a less
attractive option. We can help you determine which option will be the
best VALUE. Many motors have a bad history, and have been improved in
the newer versions. It does not pay to spend time and labor to replace
a problem motor with a used version of the same problem motor.



Many customers express great frustration when confronted with the
seemingly exorbitant prices of OEM tilt and trim parts. We try to
source good quality aftermarket parts to save money, but one must keep
in mind these are highly specialized electrical and hydraulic parts,
produced in small numbers, with demanding engineering
requirements(waterproof, corrosion resistant, high power to
weight/size requirement etc.) These are not Chevy windshield wiper
motors, made cheap and in millions of units! Most used tilt motors
cost 100.00 to 300.00 depending on condition, rarity, availability,
and cost of new. Like mentioned before, the amount of work required to
change out a tilt motor forces the question; "Is it worth saving a
little for a used motor when I may have to do all this work over?"

Mercury

84 to early 90's with 3ram side fill Tilt/Trim



Complete system (used) 425.00 exchange

Cartridge Motor and Pump assy NEW 589.95

Cartridge Motor and Pump assy (used) 350.00 (Motor NOT sold
seperately)

Call for individual used parts (rams, pins etc)

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 7, 4:25 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Dec 7, 1:23 pm, "mmc" wrote:



"Steve B" wrote in message

...

I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 Merc 40 long
shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. The only thing there is the switch. I've searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition. Some
say
great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? How much work is
involved in rebuilding one? I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about $600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great on me
and
my broken back. Also make it easier to launch and recover and make
ready
to tow.

Advice appreciated. Flames expected.

Steve

Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the other?
Does
it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch is
pushed?
Does it look like
this?http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20.cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it this
summer
with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from the
dealer.
I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and inspect and
see
it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires that
should
run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for voltage
(solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you have
power
and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the brushes
before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be something
as
simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped the
wires
from the solenoids.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dudes. I'm not sure if that is the assembly or not, but the book
checks out to be for a 25-50 hp Mercury Marine Outboard.

Now IF the assembly is there, and IF all was needed was a motor. My
cost on the brand new motor itself is $97.67 and shipping. I can't
get any of the other components.

Steve, IF that's all that is needed, ;let me know and you have it at
my cost + bare bones shipping from the warehouse

reply: THE WHOLE TILT ASSEMBLY IS MISSING. REPEAT: THE WHOLE ENTIRE TILT
ASSEMBLY IS MISSING.

Steve



Uh, Steve. somethings getting lost in the translation:


"....Damn. I just don't understand it. I can't hear a thing. I
press the
switches, but there is not a sound in the world back there. I put my
head
right next to the motor and hit the up and down switch, but there is
not a
click not a whirr.

What could it be? (Other than it's entirely been removed from the
motor,
that is.)

Steve ..."

reply: Translation: Motor is missing. Someone asks for symptoms of how
motor ran.

Simple.

It ran off.

HTH, but I doubt it.

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I just got a slight windfall, and want to get my 89 Merc 40 long shaft's
tilt mechanism fixed. The only thing there is the switch. I've searched
ebay, and the old units run from $100 up depending on condition. Some
say great condition, other say need rebuilding.

How much of a chore is it to install one of these? How much work is
involved in rebuilding one? I have tons of tools, and fix stuff
regularly. I believe the Merc shop says it would run about $600.

It's an older boat, but having the tilt working would be great on me and
my broken back. Also make it easier to launch and recover and make
ready to tow.

Advice appreciated. Flames expected.

Steve
Hey Steve,
First off, what are the symptoms? Does it go one way and not the other?
Does it do nothing at all? Can you hear the motor run when the switch is
pushed?
Does it look like this?
http://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury_parts/1696/20.cfm
I can walk thru changing it out if it is this one, just did it this
summer with mine.
Also, I found the units on ebay for about $659 vs over $900 from the
dealer. I bought mine from a local shop used so was able to go and
inspect and see it work before buying.
If you can't hear anything from the motor, find the lead wires that
should run from the unit up thru the pan to the solenoids and check for
voltage (solenoid side) with a meter as someone hits the switch. If you
have power and the wires to the unit are intact, the motor is the
problem.
Motors are stupidly expensive so you might see if it's the brushes before
buying a new motor.
If no power, track the wires back until you find power. May be something
as simple as a bad switch or loose wire.
My problem was it would tilt down but not up even after I swapped the
wires from the solenoids.

Damn. I just don't understand it. I can't hear a thing. I press the
switches, but there is not a sound in the world back there. I put my head
right next to the motor and hit the up and down switch, but there is not a
click not a whirr.

What could it be? (Other than it's entirely been removed from the motor,
that is.)

Steve
Maybe it's making noise from wherever it currently resides when you hit the
switch on your boat? Like ESP or voodoo.
Not having one at all makes it easier to troubleshoot!