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For the children's sake...
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:45:43 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message news  On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:06:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:01:16 -0600, wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...y.aspx?ref=rss NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! George Orwell just wasn't too far off... Not that you asked, but my opinion is that anybody driving DUI with a passenger should be prosecuted as a felon. I realize that many share that view, and it may be a consensus view. I don't. IMHO, persons who injure another out of their own irresponsible actions should be subject to equitable and severe penalties meted out by the justice system. I think that legislated behavioral controls are Orwellian and rob the individual of his or her personal autonomy. Ummm... laws are not a form of behavioral control? Still thinking... still thinking... still thinking... bzzzzzt... |
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#23
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For the children's sake...
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Dec 9, 8:53*pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...wi-bill-compou... NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! George Orwell just wasn't too far off... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * *-------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access You object to having a legal requirement to drive sober?? Yes. -- Boy..if this is you Waylon...you're really out to lunch here. Maybe you should volunteer some time in a major trauma center in Atlanta. Don. I'll vouch for him, II know this guy. he lives in an adjacent county of mine. only about 40 mi. away. I guarantee you, he's not Waylon. I think I know what his point is, but I won't go into it. it's no biggie. Uh oh. You belong to a church group together or do your kids play baseball against one another? |
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#24
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For the children's sake...
On Dec 9, 9:28*pm, jps wrote:
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 8:53 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...wi-bill-compou... NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! George Orwell just wasn't too far off... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access You object to having a legal requirement to drive sober?? Yes. -- Boy..if this is you Waylon...you're really out to lunch here. Maybe you should volunteer some time in a major trauma center in Atlanta. Don. *I'll vouch for him, II know this guy. he lives in an adjacent county of mine. only about 40 mi. away. I guarantee you, he's not Waylon. I think I know what his point is, but I won't go into it. it's no biggie. Uh oh. *You belong to a church group together or do your kids play baseball against one another? Both. |
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For the children's sake...
On Dec 9, 9:35*pm, Tim wrote:
On Dec 9, 9:28*pm, jps wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 8:53 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...wi-bill-compou... NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! George Orwell just wasn't too far off... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access You object to having a legal requirement to drive sober?? Yes. -- Boy..if this is you Waylon...you're really out to lunch here. Maybe you should volunteer some time in a major trauma center in Atlanta. Don. *I'll vouch for him, II know this guy. he lives in an adjacent county of mine. only about 40 mi. away. I guarantee you, he's not Waylon. I think I know what his point is, but I won't go into it. it's no biggie. Uh oh. *You belong to a church group together or do your kids play baseball against one another? Both. Actually, not really. we attend separate churches, however we share close to the same beliefs. if by chance J. had kids the same age as mine who were active in sports, then they probably did compete with each other |
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#26
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For the children's sake...
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:30:43 -0600, wrote:
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...y.aspx?ref=rss NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! George Orwell just wasn't too far off... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access You object to having a legal requirement to drive sober?? Yes. Why? |
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For the children's sake...
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:39:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Dec 9, 9:35*pm, Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 9:28*pm, jps wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 8:53 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...wi-bill-compou... NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! George Orwell just wasn't too far off... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access You object to having a legal requirement to drive sober?? Yes. -- Boy..if this is you Waylon...you're really out to lunch here. Maybe you should volunteer some time in a major trauma center in Atlanta. Don. *I'll vouch for him, II know this guy. he lives in an adjacent county of mine. only about 40 mi. away. I guarantee you, he's not Waylon. I think I know what his point is, but I won't go into it. it's no biggie. Uh oh. *You belong to a church group together or do your kids play baseball against one another? Both. Actually, not really. we attend separate churches, however we share close to the same beliefs. if by chance J. had kids the same age as mine who were active in sports, then they probably did compete with each other Uh oh, spilled the beans and feeling like you overstepped? He'd have done well as a church official during the crusades. Don't know what he's like live but he sure comes off as the true heir to William F. Buckley, minus the intellect. |
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For the children's sake...
On Dec 9, 10:06*pm, jps wrote:
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:39:26 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 9:35 pm, Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 9:28 pm, jps wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 8:53 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...wi-bill-compou... NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! George Orwell just wasn't too far off... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access You object to having a legal requirement to drive sober?? Yes. -- Boy..if this is you Waylon...you're really out to lunch here. Maybe you should volunteer some time in a major trauma center in Atlanta. Don. I'll vouch for him, II know this guy. he lives in an adjacent county of mine. only about 40 mi. away. I guarantee you, he's not Waylon. I think I know what his point is, but I won't go into it. it's no biggie. Uh oh. You belong to a church group together or do your kids play baseball against one another? Both. Actually, not really. we attend separate churches, however we share close to the same beliefs. if by chance J. *had kids the same age as mine who were active in sports, then they probably did compete with each other Uh oh, spilled the beans and feeling like you overstepped? No. He'd have done well as a church official during the crusades. *Don't know what he's like live but he sure comes off as the true heir to William F. Buckley, minus the intellect. in you're eyes you're probably right. But you see only what you wish. |
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#29
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For the children's sake...
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:30:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Dec 9, 10:06*pm, jps wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 19:39:26 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 9:35 pm, Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 9:28 pm, jps wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Dec 9, 8:53 pm, "Don White" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:18:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...wi-bill-compou... NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! George Orwell just wasn't too far off... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access You object to having a legal requirement to drive sober?? Yes. -- Boy..if this is you Waylon...you're really out to lunch here. Maybe you should volunteer some time in a major trauma center in Atlanta. Don. I'll vouch for him, II know this guy. he lives in an adjacent county of mine. only about 40 mi. away. I guarantee you, he's not Waylon. I think I know what his point is, but I won't go into it. it's no biggie. Uh oh. You belong to a church group together or do your kids play baseball against one another? Both. Actually, not really. we attend separate churches, however we share close to the same beliefs. if by chance J. *had kids the same age as mine who were active in sports, then they probably did compete with each other Uh oh, spilled the beans and feeling like you overstepped? No. He'd have done well as a church official during the crusades. *Don't know what he's like live but he sure comes off as the true heir to William F. Buckley, minus the intellect. you're probably right. Yes, I thought so. |
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#30
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For the children's sake...
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Dec 9, 6:43 pm, "Steve B" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...wi-bill-compou... NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to drive DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board. That ought to help save lives! Not sure if that last sentence is a statement or a snide comment. a snide comment. Drunks don't care about anything, even passengers. And if more laws reduced deaths and DUIs, we would have evidence of this already, as we have increased the laws. There is not correlation between increasing laws and people lessening their criminal acts. Look at Prohibition. Steve And above the basics, it applies to gun laws too. reply: Well, if there are more laws, it means the government needs to hire more law enforcement officers. Is that what they're talking about with all this jobs creation stuff? The old laws worked so good, lets make some more! Yeah, that oughta do it. Steve |
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