Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 21, 9:08 am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:56 pm, Canuck57 wrote:





jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:49:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...
Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....
You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so they
will cash it.
I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!
I thought it might be a good investment to send Canuck the 1500 so he
can go get his head examined but that'd be a waste. He's got access
to free health care.
Free? You are freaking kidding. Government has justified steady tax
increases for 40 years on the health care theme. Giving Canada the
highest taxed juristicions in North America! Don't trust my word for
it. Plug your numbers into this and find out:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm
Or, go to the Canadian government tax site and download a T4 Tax forms,
they are only 4 pages as we can't deduct much. No need to calculate
interest on the mortage here. Keep in mind if you use the T4 method it
does not include the hidden taxes of GST, PST, HST, room taxes,
restaurant taxes, utility taxes and booze/cig/gas/electric/heat/import
and taxes you never heard of. If you take your wife out for a meal,
some provinces are 25% tax and that is before the tip.
And after you look at the numbers know that health care in Canada is
rationed, and bed shortages all over. They don't have to compete. One
service provider and no alternatives. If you work and pay taxes you get
better service because they will ask that question when getting regional
health care authority to schedule you. Managed like sheep. Get sick,
don't produce for the government they will put you on a rediculasly long
waiting list.
Americans should riot over this issue, this is a government ploy for
more revenue and herd management of the American people. 90% of you will
have lower health care service levels, for the 10% of freeloaders and
government skiming.
All of you universal government health care freaks need to read this
carefully and repeatedly. Here's your real world feedback from one of
the places you hold up as a shining example of what you want the US to
become.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Who in hell told you that our system is modeled after Canada's?

How is it any different? Government collects health care as government
revenue. Then skims it. In Canada it started nationally as a federal
program. Federal taxes went up big time.

Then when the federal government wanted provinces to do more they
shifted 90% of the costs to the provinces, who raised taxes up the
wazoo. But be damned if the federal government lowered taxes, they
raise them too.

If we took the 10 Canadian provinces and the 50 US states, an ranked
them to the average standard of living. 9 of out 10 provinces rank at
the bottom for disposable income after all is said an done.

When I lived in the US for 10 years, I had to use the system 3 times.
Stupid stuff, weekened warrior broken bones, bursitis the usual. Never
waited more than 20 minutes. In Canada, lucky to be in and out in 6 hours!

You *******s supporting this don't knwo how good you really have it. Oh
ya, it isn't perfect, I don't argue that. Buy letting government do
health care without some severe limits and iron clad constitutional like
law is really freaking stupid. You are in fact better just to tinker
with the system you have than to scrap it.

You think 20% profit by health care companies is bad. Factor in
government general admin costs average 25.5%. That is before skiming
the income for other purposes. By the time the money goes to health
care it will be much less than 50 cents on the dollar...

This is a poly to get the government into the action of health care
money for government profit. Just like the maffia wanting a cut of dope
on the street.

If you can't see that, then the greatest nation is in deap ****.
America is a great society going down the hold from debtors not paying
their debts, and greedy government behaving like the pied piper -- and
lots of sheep want to follow.

Just say no to democratic BS... there is no such thing as free health
care. Does not exist any more than you will work for free.

Don White wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:49:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz
said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....
You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so
they will cash it.
I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!
I thought it might be a good investment to send Canuck the 1500 so he
can go get his head examined but that'd be a waste. He's got access
to free health care.
Free? You are freaking kidding. Government has justified steady tax
increases for 40 years on the health care theme. Giving Canada the
highest taxed juristicions in North America! Don't trust my word for it.
Plug your numbers into this and find out:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

Or, go to the Canadian government tax site and download a T4 Tax forms,
they are only 4 pages as we can't deduct much. No need to calculate
interest on the mortage here. Keep in mind if you use the T4 method it
does not include the hidden taxes of GST, PST, HST, room taxes, restaurant
taxes, utility taxes and booze/cig/gas/electric/heat/import and taxes you
never heard of. If you take your wife out for a meal, some provinces are
25% tax and that is before the tip.

And after you look at the numbers know that health care in Canada is
rationed, and bed shortages all over. They don't have to compete. One
service provider and no alternatives. If you work and pay taxes you get
better service because they will ask that question when getting regional
health care authority to schedule you. Managed like sheep. Get sick,
don't produce for the government they will put you on a rediculasly long
waiting list.

Americans should riot over this issue, this is a government ploy for more
revenue and herd management of the American people. 90% of you will have
lower health care service levels, for the 10% of freeloaders and
government skiming.


What province charges 25% tax?
Nova Scotia is 13% HST (combined GST & PST) and that's bad enough.

Lets start with BC. Hotel/motel is GST+PST+Hotel tax, compounded. 5% +
8% + 8% = 24.4% compounded. Pretty much like that in all provinces
except Alberta where PST does not exists. If you hear the term HST, it
is really GST+PST. Check in at a dump for $100, get the bill for $125
or more because even bottled water is extra, $3 + 15%.

http://www.sbr.gov.bc.ca/business/Co...umer_taxes.htm

Nova Scotia is an island, Your first tax will be getting there. I see
they lowered HST to 13% passing on the 1 and later 2% reduction in the
federal rate. It used to be 15%. On your next visit, check the prices
at the liquer store. Beer at $8 for 12 in Milwaukee is $32 for 12 in NS.

http://www.pmcanada.com/GST-HST%20Ra...formation.html

Not entirely accurate as some cities are getting into it and it misses
to restaurant and hotel stuff but Wiki has the pure sales tax on line at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada

Now just in sales taxes, compare say Montana with 0. So 15% for all
things not basic raw core groceries. It is on cleaner, toilet paper,
finished foods like donuts; pretty hard to beat.

Add 15% of your after income tax over a lifetime...you can see the
wealth draw. Know that income tax and utility taxes are like this too.

Run the numbers for yourself at:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

Because at the end of the day, government wants your money.

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On Dec 20, 6:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

--
Nom=de=Plume
"I'm-sure-you-can't-actually-be-seriously-making-that-argument!"

No, D'Plume. I would never call you average.

And, I mistakenly assumed you had a brain...

--
Nom=de=Plume
No you didn't. And there is your mistake.

So, I was right. You don't have a brain! Thanks for the confirmation.

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On Dec 20, 10:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

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On Dec 20, 6:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

--
Nom=de=Plume
"I'm-sure-you-can't-actually-be-seriously-making-that-argument!"

No, D'Plume. I would never call you average.

And, I mistakenly assumed you had a brain...

--
Nom=de=Plume
No you didn't. And there is your mistake.

So, I was right. You don't have a brain! Thanks for the
confirmation.

--
Nom=de=Plume
Not one that a person of your superiour intellect would recognise.

What a little boy you are...

--
Nom=de=Plume
I see you've been peeking while I'm in the shower again.

Yeah, and there wasn't much to see there.

--
Nom=de=Plume
But you couldn't resist looking anyhow, eh? I'd wager that your like a
moth to a flame, if i were in the shower now, you'd be peeking around
the corner.

I would likely throw up if I saw anything, but I probably wouldn't see
anything.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Then, quit peeking!


Aye, aye, captain skippy.

--
Nom=de=Plume

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On Dec 21, 2:20 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 10:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 6:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!
--
Nom=de=Plume
"I'm-sure-you-can't-actually-be-seriously-making-that-argument!"
No, D'Plume. I would never call you average.
And, I mistakenly assumed you had a brain...
--
Nom=de=Plume
No you didn't. And there is your mistake.
So, I was right. You don't have a brain! Thanks for the confirmation.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Not one that a person of your superiour intellect would recognise.
What a little boy you are...
--
Nom=de=Plume
I see you've been peeking while I'm in the shower again.
Yeah, and there wasn't much to see there.

--
Nom=de=Plume

But you couldn't resist looking anyhow, eh? I'd wager that your like a
moth to a flame, if i were in the shower now, you'd be peeking around
the corner.


I would likely throw up if I saw anything, but I probably wouldn't see
anything.


I suspected as much. Men repulse you.

--


Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID

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On Dec 21, 2:20 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Dec 20, 10:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 6:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!
--
Nom=de=Plume
"I'm-sure-you-can't-actually-be-seriously-making-that-argument!"
No, D'Plume. I would never call you average.
And, I mistakenly assumed you had a brain...
--
Nom=de=Plume
No you didn't. And there is your mistake.
So, I was right. You don't have a brain! Thanks for the confirmation.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Not one that a person of your superiour intellect would recognise.
What a little boy you are...
--
Nom=de=Plume
I see you've been peeking while I'm in the shower again.
Yeah, and there wasn't much to see there.

--
Nom=de=Plume

But you couldn't resist looking anyhow, eh? I'd wager that your like a
moth to a flame, if i were in the shower now, you'd be peeking around
the corner.


I would likely throw up if I saw anything, but I probably wouldn't see
anything.


I suspected as much. Men repulse you.

You tell him, my special buddy.

Don White wrote:
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On Dec 21, 7:59 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Dec 21, 2:20 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Dec 20, 10:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 6:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!
--
Nom=de=Plume
"I'm-sure-you-can't-actually-be-seriously-making-that-argument!"
No, D'Plume. I would never call you average.
And, I mistakenly assumed you had a brain...
--
Nom=de=Plume
No you didn't. And there is your mistake.
So, I was right. You don't have a brain! Thanks for the confirmation.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Not one that a person of your superiour intellect would recognise.
What a little boy you are...
--
Nom=de=Plume
I see you've been peeking while I'm in the shower again.
Yeah, and there wasn't much to see there.

--
Nom=de=Plume
But you couldn't resist looking anyhow, eh? I'd wager that your like a
moth to a flame, if i were in the shower now, you'd be peeking around
the corner.

I would likely throw up if I saw anything, but I probably wouldn't see
anything.

I suspected as much. Men repulse you.

You tell him, my special buddy.
What's this special buddy crap? And you are calling Nom=de=plume a
"him"? What's with that?

--


Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID

In article , says...

Don White wrote:
In article , says...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 21, 7:59 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

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On Dec 21, 5:50 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 21, 2:20 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 10:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Dec 20, 6:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!
--
Nom=de=Plume
"I'm-sure-you-can't-actually-be-seriously-making-that-argument!"
No, D'Plume. I would never call you average.
And, I mistakenly assumed you had a brain...
--
Nom=de=Plume
No you didn't. And there is your mistake.
So, I was right. You don't have a brain! Thanks for the confirmation.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Not one that a person of your superiour intellect would recognise.
What a little boy you are...
--
Nom=de=Plume
I see you've been peeking while I'm in the shower again.
Yeah, and there wasn't much to see there.

--
Nom=de=Plume
But you couldn't resist looking anyhow, eh? I'd wager that your like a
moth to a flame, if i were in the shower now, you'd be peeking around
the corner.

I would likely throw up if I saw anything, but I probably wouldn't see
anything.

I suspected as much. Men repulse you.

You tell him, my special buddy.
What's this special buddy crap? And you are calling Nom=de=plume a
"him"? What's with that?

Hmmm, did Don just let the cat out of the bag, so to speak??

--
WAFA free means not having to listen to his lies and silly name calling.

Canuck57 wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
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jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:49:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market
for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz
said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially,
politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29


Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....
You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or
so they will cash it.
I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!
I thought it might be a good investment to send Canuck the 1500 so he
can go get his head examined but that'd be a waste. He's got access
to free health care.
Free? You are freaking kidding. Government has justified steady tax
increases for 40 years on the health care theme. Giving Canada the
highest taxed juristicions in North America! Don't trust my word for
it. Plug your numbers into this and find out:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

Or, go to the Canadian government tax site and download a T4 Tax
forms, they are only 4 pages as we can't deduct much. No need to
calculate interest on the mortage here. Keep in mind if you use the
T4 method it does not include the hidden taxes of GST, PST, HST, room
taxes, restaurant taxes, utility taxes and
booze/cig/gas/electric/heat/import and taxes you never heard of. If
you take your wife out for a meal, some provinces are 25% tax and
that is before the tip.

And after you look at the numbers know that health care in Canada is
rationed, and bed shortages all over. They don't have to compete.
One service provider and no alternatives. If you work and pay taxes
you get better service because they will ask that question when
getting regional health care authority to schedule you. Managed like
sheep. Get sick, don't produce for the government they will put you
on a rediculasly long waiting list.

Americans should riot over this issue, this is a government ploy for
more revenue and herd management of the American people. 90% of you
will have lower health care service levels, for the 10% of
freeloaders and government skiming.


What province charges 25% tax?
Nova Scotia is 13% HST (combined GST & PST) and that's bad enough.

Lets start with BC. Hotel/motel is GST+PST+Hotel tax, compounded. 5% +
8% + 8% = 24.4% compounded. Pretty much like that in all provinces
except Alberta where PST does not exists. If you hear the term HST, it
is really GST+PST. Check in at a dump for $100, get the bill for $125
or more because even bottled water is extra, $3 + 15%.

http://www.sbr.gov.bc.ca/business/Co...umer_taxes.htm

Nova Scotia is an island, Your first tax will be getting there. I see
they lowered HST to 13% passing on the 1 and later 2% reduction in the
federal rate. It used to be 15%. On your next visit, check the prices
at the liquer store. Beer at $8 for 12 in Milwaukee is $32 for 12 in NS.

http://www.pmcanada.com/GST-HST%20Ra...formation.html

Not entirely accurate as some cities are getting into it and it misses
to restaurant and hotel stuff but Wiki has the pure sales tax on line at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sales_taxes_in_Canada

Now just in sales taxes, compare say Montana with 0. So 15% for all
things not basic raw core groceries. It is on cleaner, toilet paper,
finished foods like donuts; pretty hard to beat.

Add 15% of your after income tax over a lifetime...you can see the
wealth draw. Know that income tax and utility taxes are like this too.

Run the numbers for yourself at:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

Because at the end of the day, government wants your money.

Damn, so that is where all of my money goes to. I thought it was my
son drinking all of my beer and burning up my gas.