"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message news
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...


You really need to stop watching Fox "news" ... try to branch out a bit.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:56:05 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message news
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...


You really need to stop watching Fox "news" ... try to branch out a bit.

It's the echo chamber he enjoys the most.

On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...

It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.

On Dec 20, 8:16*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...

It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.

So instead of attacking the messenger, which is your side's MO, how
about addressing the quotation. Specifically, what part of it isn't
true, and why?

On Dec 20, 8:32*am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:16*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re....

Huh - how about that...

It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.

So instead of attacking the messenger, which is your side's MO, how
about addressing the quotation. *Specifically, what part of it isn't
true, and why?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Easy! First, if you read the whole article, not just the cherry picked
parts, you'll see that they are discussing Europe's cap and trade
problems saying that we will have the same problems. This without even
knowing how we are going to model our system. Pretty audacious if the
right wing thinks that their side can predict the future.

On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...-cbo-estimate/

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...l-require-hom/

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...earth-cooling/

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...en-treaty-thr/

And here's a good one about the right's idea that more CO2 is actually
good for the environment:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...-not-pollutan/

On Dec 20, 8:53*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:32*am, Jack wrote:



On Dec 20, 8:16*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...

It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.

So instead of attacking the messenger, which is your side's MO, how
about addressing the quotation. *Specifically, what part of it isn't
true, and why?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Easy! First, if you read the whole article, not just the cherry picked
parts, you'll see that they are discussing Europe's cap and trade
problems saying that we will have the same problems. This without even
knowing how we are going to model our system. Pretty audacious if the
right wing thinks that their side can predict the future.

You're movving the goalposts. You stated that a thought was cherry-
picked, presented as fact, and went on to try to smear it as a lie.

The quote you attacked as a lie was: "This is the problem with
politicians trying to create a market for something that the free
market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

What *specifically* in that quote is not true. C'mon, you attempted
to smear it as a cherry-picked lie, so it should be easy to point out
the falsehood in the quote.

In article 5bd39d8f-627c-43cd-8b8b-5928ec4765a5
@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 20, 8:53*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:32*am, Jack wrote:



On Dec 20, 8:16*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...

It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.

So instead of attacking the messenger, which is your side's MO, how
about addressing the quotation. *Specifically, what part of it isn't
true, and why?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Easy! First, if you read the whole article, not just the cherry picked
parts, you'll see that they are discussing Europe's cap and trade
problems saying that we will have the same problems. This without even
knowing how we are going to model our system. Pretty audacious if the
right wing thinks that their side can predict the future.

You're movving the goalposts. You stated that a thought was cherry-
picked, presented as fact, and went on to try to smear it as a lie.

The quote you attacked as a lie was: "This is the problem with
politicians trying to create a market for something that the free
market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

What *specifically* in that quote is not true. C'mon, you attempted
to smear it as a cherry-picked lie, so it should be easy to point out
the falsehood in the quote.

"Pretty audacious if the right wing thinks that their side can predict
the future." It appears that the left is trying to do predict the future
with Global Warming, Anthropogenic Global Warming and finally Climate
Change.

Politics co-opted the science before the science was understood.

On Dec 20, 9:23*am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:53*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Dec 20, 8:32*am, Jack wrote:

On Dec 20, 8:16*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...

It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.

So instead of attacking the messenger, which is your side's MO, how
about addressing the quotation. *Specifically, what part of it isn't
true, and why?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Easy! First, if you read the whole article, not just the cherry picked
parts, you'll see that they are discussing Europe's cap and trade
problems saying that we will have the same problems. This without even
knowing how we are going to model our system. Pretty audacious if the
right wing thinks that their side can predict the future.

You're movving the goalposts. *You stated that a thought was cherry-
picked, presented as fact, and went on to try to smear it as a lie.

No I didn't. Show everyone where I said that the quote was a lie.

The quote you attacked as a lie was: "This is the problem with
politicians trying to create a market for something that the free
market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

Again, no I didn't. Show me where I attacked the quote as a lie.

What *specifically* in that quote is not true. *C'mon, you attempted
to smear it as a cherry-picked lie, so it should be easy to point out
the falsehood in the quote.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Again, show me where I said the quote was a lie.