"D.Duck" wrote in message
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Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 1:40 pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:11 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 8ab39275-4f53-4342-be57-97ae507a3f19
@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...
On Dec 20, 8:32 am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:16 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 19, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market
for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz
said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially,
politically-created
market...."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...
Huh - how about that...
It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.
So instead of attacking the messenger, which is your side's MO, how
about addressing the quotation. Specifically, what part of it isn't
true, and why?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Easy! First, if you read the whole article, not just the cherry
picked
parts, you'll see that they are discussing Europe's cap and trade
problems saying that we will have the same problems. This without
even
knowing how we are going to model our system. Pretty audacious if the
right wing thinks that their side can predict the future.
If you look at the Czars and others President Obama has put in charge
of
such policy, you can get a pretty good idea, it's not rocket
science...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What in HELL does that have to do with the right acting like they have
the ability to predict the future? They've done it before too. Look at
healthcare. For some stupid reason, they think it will be like the
UK's plan. They'll bring up the failed systems and say, "see, that's
what it will be like for us". You NEVER see them point to a well
though out system that works very well and say "see, that's what it
will be like for us"......
Why? PURE politics. They would rather play politics than do what's
right for the country.
Will "it" work as "well" as Medicare? 8)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Again, apparently the right wing can predict the future, so they'll
know the answer to that.


Fore warned is fore armed.


Man the lifeboats. Makes about as much sense.

--
Nom=de=Plume

In article b22eb8d0-9d66-42d5-acc9-db4ce2b568b2
@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 20, 1:24*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 8bfc5ae5-ce97-4687-8830-
, says...







On Dec 20, 12:41*pm, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 339e705b-aa2c-45b0-8dfb-
,
says...

On Dec 20, 11:11*am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 8ab39275-4f53-4342-be57-97ae507a3f19
@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 20, 8:32*am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:16*am, Loogypicker wrote:

On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...

It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.

So instead of attacking the messenger, which is your side's MO, how
about addressing the quotation. *Specifically, what part of it isn't
true, and why?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Easy! First, if you read the whole article, not just the cherry picked
parts, you'll see that they are discussing Europe's cap and trade
problems saying that we will have the same problems. This without even
knowing how we are going to model our system. Pretty audacious if the
right wing thinks that their side can predict the future.

If you look at the Czars and others President Obama has put in charge of
such policy, you can get a pretty good idea, it's not rocket science...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What in HELL does that have to do with the right acting like they have
the ability to predict the future? They've done it before too. Look at
healthcare. For some stupid reason, they think it will be like the
UK's plan. They'll bring up the failed systems and say, "see, that's
what it will be like for us". You NEVER see them point to a well
though out system that works very well and say "see, that's what it
will be like for us"......
Why? PURE politics. They would rather play politics than do what's
right for the country.

Show me where you didn't say you would rather play politics than do
what's right for the country?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That makes absolutely NO sense.

Now you are catching on...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Show me a question I asked that didn't make sense. If you are talking
about Bill's apartment falling into the ocean post, you aren't
comprehending well. HE said it had nothing to do with global warming.
Therefore, he must have some evidence of that, or why would he state
such?

Got to have a more open mind. There are those who think Global Taxing is
not happening, or just a normal cycle in which case, Global Taxing in
our context could not have had anything to do with it. I don't
necessarily agree, but I can see that side of it as it must be from
their point of view.

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 1:17 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:16:44 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Dec 19, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...
Huh - how about that...
It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.
I have come to know you on a personal level over the past few months -
you're a good guy - a little weird, but then again, most of us are on
some way.

Weird? I consider that a compliment, thanks!
But this kind of reply bothers me. "Cherry pick"? It's not "cherry"
picking at all - it's a fact. Fraud is rampant - something that I've
been pointing out for years. This isn't "cherry" picking - it's
governments actively creating a market that is basically unregulated
and uncontrollable and, frankly, unsupported unless you count
government money backing the concept.

Wake up man - this is all about economic control and the ones who play
along get to play. It's the Robber Baron economy all over again.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

There's fraud to a certain degree in everything political.


I thought the "left" was so sick of the fraud they want to clean it up.
Why create additional programs that will most likely be turned into a cash
cow for those so inclined to game the system.


I thought you might be rational. I was wrong.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...

Obama and congress mad-off with my money....


You must be very angry.

--
Nom=de=Plume

nom=de=plume wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 1:17 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:16:44 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker





wrote:
On Dec 19, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...
Huh - how about that...
It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.
I have come to know you on a personal level over the past few months -
you're a good guy - a little weird, but then again, most of us are on
some way.
Weird? I consider that a compliment, thanks!
But this kind of reply bothers me. "Cherry pick"? It's not "cherry"
picking at all - it's a fact. Fraud is rampant - something that I've
been pointing out for years. This isn't "cherry" picking - it's
governments actively creating a market that is basically unregulated
and uncontrollable and, frankly, unsupported unless you count
government money backing the concept.

Wake up man - this is all about economic control and the ones who play
along get to play. It's the Robber Baron economy all over again.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
There's fraud to a certain degree in everything political.

I thought the "left" was so sick of the fraud they want to clean it up.
Why create additional programs that will most likely be turned into a cash
cow for those so inclined to game the system.


I thought you might be rational. I was wrong.

Define rational, Dingbat.

--


Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID

nom=de=plume wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:11 am, I am Tosk
wrote:
In article 8ab39275-4f53-4342-be57-97ae507a3f19
@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, says...







On Dec 20, 8:32 am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:16 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 19, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market
for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz
said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially,
politically-created
market...."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...
Huh - how about that...
It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.
So instead of attacking the messenger, which is your side's MO, how
about addressing the quotation. Specifically, what part of it isn't
true, and why?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Easy! First, if you read the whole article, not just the cherry
picked
parts, you'll see that they are discussing Europe's cap and trade
problems saying that we will have the same problems. This without
even
knowing how we are going to model our system. Pretty audacious if the
right wing thinks that their side can predict the future.
If you look at the Czars and others President Obama has put in charge
of
such policy, you can get a pretty good idea, it's not rocket
science...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
What in HELL does that have to do with the right acting like they have
the ability to predict the future? They've done it before too. Look at
healthcare. For some stupid reason, they think it will be like the
UK's plan. They'll bring up the failed systems and say, "see, that's
what it will be like for us". You NEVER see them point to a well
though out system that works very well and say "see, that's what it
will be like for us"......
Why? PURE politics. They would rather play politics than do what's
right for the country.
Will "it" work as "well" as Medicare? 8)

I'm sure you're first in line to voluntarily give it up. And, if not you,
I'm sure you'll be happy to volunteer your family members to do that.


My point is the amount of fraud brought to Medicare. The Government
cannot seem to control it. Will they be able to control the inevitable
fraud that will be associated with "cap and trade"?


The gov't can't control it because the fraud investigators have not been
given the resources to deal with it.

As I said, there's always fraud around. So, your question really is a non
sequitur.


One guess as to why the Gov't WON'T control fraud.

--


Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 05:16:44 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Dec 19, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...
It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.
I have come to know you on a personal level over the past few months -
you're a good guy - a little weird, but then again, most of us are on
some way.

But this kind of reply bothers me. "Cherry pick"? It's not "cherry"
picking at all - it's a fact. Fraud is rampant - something that I've
been pointing out for years. This isn't "cherry" picking - it's
governments actively creating a market that is basically unregulated
and uncontrollable and, frankly, unsupported unless you count
government money backing the concept.

Wake up man - this is all about economic control and the ones who play
along get to play. It's the Robber Baron economy all over again.


No, fraud is not "rampant." Fraud exists in most programs.



Oh Boy.

--


Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:09:37 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article 1e66ea68-6345-4d9a-b4b5-a81324bb33d0
, says...

On Dec 19, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...

It's amazing how your side can cherry pick people's thoughts and
present just that as fact and expect everyone to eat it up. I know
that many on the right will, afterall, they'll take some lie that
Hannity or Rush tells them and run with it as the truth too.

seems you are the only one who listens to Ruch and Hannity. We really
just keep them out there to make your head blow up.

Loogy probably listens to Hannity for the same reason some folks pay
attention to Loogy. It's funny!
--

Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!

John H

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....


You must be very angry.

If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so
they will cash it.

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:10:08 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....


You must be very angry.

If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so
they will cash it.

I'm a Chevy guy myself, so I thank one and all for their support.

--Vic