nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....

You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so they
will cash it.


I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

Well, it is about the amount of debt added to each American worker even
if they are not auto, which is the majority. Sort of like 2 or 3 car
payments without the car not including interest.

I wouldn't write GM a cheque ever again. I don't believe in the
prnciple of bank and corporate welfare using the tax system. I have a
moral an ethical problem with that.

jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:49:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....

You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so they
will cash it.

I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

I thought it might be a good investment to send Canuck the 1500 so he
can go get his head examined but that'd be a waste. He's got access
to free health care.

Free? You are freaking kidding. Government has justified steady tax
increases for 40 years on the health care theme. Giving Canada the
highest taxed juristicions in North America! Don't trust my word for
it. Plug your numbers into this and find out:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

Or, go to the Canadian government tax site and download a T4 Tax forms,
they are only 4 pages as we can't deduct much. No need to calculate
interest on the mortage here. Keep in mind if you use the T4 method it
does not include the hidden taxes of GST, PST, HST, room taxes,
restaurant taxes, utility taxes and booze/cig/gas/electric/heat/import
and taxes you never heard of. If you take your wife out for a meal,
some provinces are 25% tax and that is before the tip.

And after you look at the numbers know that health care in Canada is
rationed, and bed shortages all over. They don't have to compete. One
service provider and no alternatives. If you work and pay taxes you get
better service because they will ask that question when getting regional
health care authority to schedule you. Managed like sheep. Get sick,
don't produce for the government they will put you on a rediculasly long
waiting list.

Americans should riot over this issue, this is a government ploy for
more revenue and herd management of the American people. 90% of you will
have lower health care service levels, for the 10% of freeloaders and
government skiming.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....

You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so
they will cash it.


I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

Well, it is about the amount of debt added to each American worker even if
they are not auto, which is the majority. Sort of like 2 or 3 car
payments without the car not including interest.

I wouldn't write GM a cheque ever again. I don't believe in the prnciple
of bank and corporate welfare using the tax system. I have a moral an
ethical problem with that.


I find it hard to believe that you have an actual moral or ethical problem.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Dec 20, 10:25*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

...
On Dec 20, 6:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

--
Nom=de=Plume
"I'm-sure-you-can't-actually-be-seriously-making-that-argument!"

No, D'Plume. I would never call you average.

And, I mistakenly assumed you had a brain...

--
Nom=de=Plume

No you didn't. And there is your mistake.

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
...
On Dec 20, 10:25 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message

...
On Dec 20, 6:49 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

--
Nom=de=Plume
"I'm-sure-you-can't-actually-be-seriously-making-that-argument!"

No, D'Plume. I would never call you average.

And, I mistakenly assumed you had a brain...

--
Nom=de=Plume

No you didn't. And there is your mistake.


So, I was right. You don't have a brain! Thanks for the confirmation.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Dec 20, 9:58*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:50:22 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:



On Dec 20, 12:42*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:44:35 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports

wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re....

Huh - how about that...

Textbook example of Faux News.... *Organized Crime is present ANYWHERE
mass quantities of money is found, though the concept of carbon
credits is purely idiotic....

So a news agency isn't allowed to report on something that *is*
happening? *I guess it has to agree with your political bent to be
allowed to be reported.

Meanwhile you agree the whole concept is bogus... control that knee,
Gene.

You are certainly on the right track.... it needs to be REPORTED
without political bent...

If that's the criteria we'd have to shut them all down, wouldn't we?

On Dec 20, 7:52*pm, Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 7:49 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:





"Vic *wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:10:08 -0700,
wrote:

nom=de=plume wrote:
*wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....

You must be very angry.

If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so
they will cash it.

I'm a Chevy guy myself, so I thank one and all for their support.

--Vic

I own a Ford (truck) and a foreign car.

I have a half-Japanese car, an all British car, and an all-German car.
My wife has a Detroit car.

I've got a potential buyer for the British car. Maybe.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

More lies.......
It's incredible that you think someone here will still believe you.

On Dec 20, 11:56*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:49:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....

You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so they
will cash it.

I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

I thought it might be a good investment to send Canuck the 1500 so he
can go get his head examined but that'd be a waste. *He's got access
to free health care.

Free? *You are freaking kidding. *Government has justified steady tax
increases for 40 years on the health care theme. *Giving Canada the
highest taxed juristicions in North America! *Don't trust my word for
it. *Plug your numbers into this and find out:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

Or, go to the Canadian government tax site and download a T4 Tax forms,
they are only 4 pages as we can't deduct much. No need to calculate
interest on the mortage here. *Keep in mind if you use the T4 method it
does not include the hidden taxes of GST, PST, HST, room taxes,
restaurant taxes, utility taxes and booze/cig/gas/electric/heat/import
and taxes you never heard of. *If you take your wife out for a meal,
some provinces are 25% tax and that is before the tip.

And after you look at the numbers know that health care in Canada is
rationed, and bed shortages all over. *They don't have to compete. *One
service provider and no alternatives. *If you work and pay taxes you get
better service because they will ask that question when getting regional
health care authority to schedule you. *Managed like sheep. *Get sick,
don't produce for the government they will put you on a rediculasly long
waiting list.

Americans should riot over this issue, this is a government ploy for
more revenue and herd management of the American people. 90% of you will
have lower health care service levels, for the 10% of freeloaders and
government skiming.

All of you universal government health care freaks need to read this
carefully and repeatedly. Here's your real world feedback from one of
the places you hold up as a shining example of what you want the US to
become.

On Dec 21, 9:08*am, Jack wrote:
On Dec 20, 11:56*pm, Canuck57 wrote:





jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:49:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...s-cap-trade-re...

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....

You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so they
will cash it.

I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

I thought it might be a good investment to send Canuck the 1500 so he
can go get his head examined but that'd be a waste. *He's got access
to free health care.

Free? *You are freaking kidding. *Government has justified steady tax
increases for 40 years on the health care theme. *Giving Canada the
highest taxed juristicions in North America! *Don't trust my word for
it. *Plug your numbers into this and find out:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

Or, go to the Canadian government tax site and download a T4 Tax forms,
they are only 4 pages as we can't deduct much. No need to calculate
interest on the mortage here. *Keep in mind if you use the T4 method it
does not include the hidden taxes of GST, PST, HST, room taxes,
restaurant taxes, utility taxes and booze/cig/gas/electric/heat/import
and taxes you never heard of. *If you take your wife out for a meal,
some provinces are 25% tax and that is before the tip.

And after you look at the numbers know that health care in Canada is
rationed, and bed shortages all over. *They don't have to compete. *One
service provider and no alternatives. *If you work and pay taxes you get
better service because they will ask that question when getting regional
health care authority to schedule you. *Managed like sheep. *Get sick,
don't produce for the government they will put you on a rediculasly long
waiting list.

Americans should riot over this issue, this is a government ploy for
more revenue and herd management of the American people. 90% of you will
have lower health care service levels, for the 10% of freeloaders and
government skiming.

All of you universal government health care freaks need to read this
carefully and repeatedly. *Here's your real world feedback from one of
the places you hold up as a shining example of what you want the US to
become.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Who in hell told you that our system is modeled after Canada's?

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:49:27 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"This is the problem with politicians trying to create a market for
something that the free market otherwise doesn't value," Schulz
said.
"An emissions trading market is an artificially, politically-created
market...."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...%20Politics%29

Huh - how about that...
Obama and congress mad-off with my money....

You must be very angry.
If you are not, I am sure if you send a cheque to GM for $1500 or so
they will cash it.

I'm sure you can't actually be seriously making that argument!

I thought it might be a good investment to send Canuck the 1500 so he
can go get his head examined but that'd be a waste. He's got access
to free health care.

Free? You are freaking kidding. Government has justified steady tax
increases for 40 years on the health care theme. Giving Canada the
highest taxed juristicions in North America! Don't trust my word for it.
Plug your numbers into this and find out:

http://www.fraserinstitute.org/tools/Default.htm

Or, go to the Canadian government tax site and download a T4 Tax forms,
they are only 4 pages as we can't deduct much. No need to calculate
interest on the mortage here. Keep in mind if you use the T4 method it
does not include the hidden taxes of GST, PST, HST, room taxes, restaurant
taxes, utility taxes and booze/cig/gas/electric/heat/import and taxes you
never heard of. If you take your wife out for a meal, some provinces are
25% tax and that is before the tip.

And after you look at the numbers know that health care in Canada is
rationed, and bed shortages all over. They don't have to compete. One
service provider and no alternatives. If you work and pay taxes you get
better service because they will ask that question when getting regional
health care authority to schedule you. Managed like sheep. Get sick,
don't produce for the government they will put you on a rediculasly long
waiting list.

Americans should riot over this issue, this is a government ploy for more
revenue and herd management of the American people. 90% of you will have
lower health care service levels, for the 10% of freeloaders and
government skiming.


What province charges 25% tax?
Nova Scotia is 13% HST (combined GST & PST) and that's bad enough.