On 27/12/2009 8:01 AM, mmc wrote:
"Vic wrote in message
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Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?
They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.
Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic

Or, TSA could pay attention to the no fly list and not let the jerk on board
in the first place. They may be too busy checking to make sure your 3 oz.
shampoo bottle is properly secured in it's 1 qt. anti- terrorist ziplock bag
to be bothered with a heads up from the Brits.
TSA is a poor substitute for security. It's been crap since it was set up
and not likely to get better.
I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling is
in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little more
closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana (apologies if
Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Give Fed-Ex a multi-billion dollar contract. Seriously.

Fed-Ex can track a package moving around the world in seconds with a
certian high degree of accuracy.

The US goverment with trillions can't track its own people to know you
or I have lived peacefully in a relatively stationary lifestyle for
however long we have been alive and moved to or from.

Profiling, couldn't agree more. This single muslim young male should
have been pegged for a good roust right off the bat.

And if muslim and islamic mostly young males don't like it, consider the
facts that muslims haven't been doing much to let others knwo of pending
violence. And I really doubt these idiots operate without support,
without family, without money...

Take the place this recent perp rented in London...it wasn't exactly a
cheap place to stay. Could have been a cover... would love to know
where he got money to live on.

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

You have to start somewhere and 99.9999% of the attacks on and within
the US have been originated by followers of Islam and conducted by
followers of Islam.

Why is profiling of serial killers allowable?

Why is profiling of sexual predators and pedophiles allowable?

It appears that we only defer to Islam when profiling could do the most
good.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn


Sure is easy to start down the slippery slope of racism and bigotry isn't
it.

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 26/12/2009 8:40 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
Why not just make flyers strip and issue hospital gowns and booties?
They can pick up their clothes at the arrival point.
What's the big deal?

No one wants to see that unless you are on a plane full of chear leaders.

They can modify the hospital gowns so your ass isn't in the wind.

And crap on the seat.

Maybe go to a trousers and shirt kind.
Let everybody carry 20 bucks aboard to buy stuff from the plane gedunk
in case they just have to have a Snickers or a Coca-Cola.
Crew can organize prayer sessions (multi-denomination), group
sing-alongs and charade games to keep folks busy while in the air.
Those who want to can just watch a movie.
What's the problem here? Why aren't they doing this?
No more long security waits at the airport, and you can reduce costs
by eliminating most of the TSA personnel.
Be more fun flying too. An adventure every time.
Looks doable to me. I must add though, that I don't fly.
What say you fliers?

--Vic

I have a better idea. Profiling. Single, muslim/islamic, male single or
in packs of up to 5 or 6. Born in Africa or the middle east. Full body
x-ray or no boarding.

Life at Gitmo if anything hazardous is found and convicted.


You're an idiot if you think that would work. See thunder's post.

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On 12/27/09 1:23 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn


Sure is easy to start down the slippery slope of racism and bigotry isn't
it.


Adam is the result of 'christian' home schooling and therefore was
preprogrammed for simplemindedness before al qaeda got to him. :)

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:23:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial
profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a
little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but
concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn


Sure is easy to start down the slippery slope of racism and bigotry isn't
it.

I suppose we could adopt the FDR model and lock up everyone with a
middle eastern name. ;-)


Great example of that slippery slope...

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On 12/27/09 2:18 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:23:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial
profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a
little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but
concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn


Sure is easy to start down the slippery slope of racism and bigotry isn't
it.

I suppose we could adopt the FDR model and lock up everyone with a
middle eastern name. ;-)


Great example of that slippery slope...


I'd start with the teabaggers.

On the other hand, and on another but connected subject, I'm not sure it
would be a bad idea to shut down immigration to this country entirely
until actual unemployment drops below 5%.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

No one said profiling would catch all the bad guys but if the threat is from
a people from a specific ethnic group, deliberately ignoring people from
that group because of "political correctness" is it's own kind of crazy.
If my neighborhood was experiencing a rash of buglaries and the suspects,
based on prior arrests, were teenage anglo males, would I be incorrect in
being aware of this and watching people that fit that description?
Is it ok to profile white people?

On 27/12/2009 9:25 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

Given time, inginuity anyone can slip through. Given we don't have the
resources to pollygraph every flyer with an intensive background check,
no mater what one does it is going to boil down to getting most of them
most of the time.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn would have matched young male muslim/islam.

One Timothy McVeigh and how many muslim/islamic nut cases?

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 27/12/2009 9:25 AM, thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:01:14 -0500, mmc wrote:


I know the libs will squeal at this but mayube a little racial profiling
is in order? Like, check out people with obviously Muslim names a little
more closely than pasty white "Bubba Joe Smith" from Texarkana
(apologies if Bubba Joe actually resides on this group).

Yup, racial profiling would have caught Timothy McVeigh and the
Unabomber. If you want to use terrorist profiling, fine, but concentrate
on racial profiling the true terrorists can slip through. Guys, like
this, for instance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

Given time, inginuity anyone can slip through. Given we don't have the
resources to pollygraph every flyer with an intensive background check, no
mater what one does it is going to boil down to getting most of them most
of the time.

Adam Yahiye Gadahn would have matched young male muslim/islam.

One Timothy McVeigh and how many muslim/islamic nut cases?


http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/26/hat...ort/index.html

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