thunder wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.
Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

I doubt if you have any data to back up your suppositions.
Profiling is a tool. Reading body language is another. Intelligence
another.

On 12/28/09 8:39 AM, Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.
Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian,
not an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist,
fine, but if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going
to miss a lot of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber,
Black Widows, etc., etc.

I doubt if you have any data to back up your suppositions.
Profiling is a tool. Reading body language is another. Intelligence
another.

flajim learned all this on the only real job he's had...chipping paint
on the deck of a ship 35 years ago when he was a navy boy.

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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:44:25 -0500, Harry wrote:


Wait until the teabaggers start blowing up buildings, planes, and crowds
of people.

Yeah, but that wouldn't be terrorism. That would be patriotism, if I
understand the teabaggers correctly.

Let me correct your statement, "if I understand Hillary Clinton
correctly."

Harry wrote:
On 12/28/09 8:39 AM, Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.
Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian,
not an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist,
fine, but if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going
to miss a lot of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber,
Black Widows, etc., etc.

I doubt if you have any data to back up your suppositions.
Profiling is a tool. Reading body language is another. Intelligence
another.

flajim learned all this on the only real job he's had...chipping paint
on the deck of a ship 35 years ago when he was a navy boy.


Does Flajim give you a woodie as well. Whatever happened to you? You
used to like girls. I guess KY jelly gave you a whole new life, eh.

--

It's flattering to see so many of you turds spoofing me.

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says...

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

The majority religion in Nigeria is Islam.

Harry wrote:
On 12/28/09 7:27 AM, D.Duck wrote:
Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how
Nepolitano had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Her comment about How well the system works in relation to this
incident has people scratching their heads. I can see where it's
confused you as well.


Let's see, aren't most foreign flights TO the US loaded outside the US?
Shouldn't there be coordination of efforts between the US and foreign
countries?

You should check with flajim, frogwatch, and the rest of the right-wing
morons here. They know nothing about airport security, either.


Damn those morons, if it wasn't for intellectual giants such as you and
me, this group would be useless.

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says...

On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:18:04 -0500, Jim wrote:


Obama sure knows how to pick em.

The plane was loaded in Amsterdam. Frankly, I don't see how Nepolitano
had a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

Why didn't she throw the Dutch under the bus, in true liberal form?

Harry wrote:
On 12/28/09 7:08 AM, Jim wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:02 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:

I never claimed profiling will get them all, just a method of spending
20% of the resources for 80% of the effect. Then you have 80% of the
resources to go after 20% that remain. Increases the odds of being
effective.

That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

You base this on what? Your crap job in the navy 40 years ago and no
real employment in your entire lifetime?

Harry, very few people have as good of a job as you and i have had. i
worked for a crown corp. and your wife paid you to stay in the basement
and not embarrass her. What a life.

On 28/12/2009 6:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In inet,
says...

On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 07:08:39 -0500, Jim wrote:


That is exactly one of the problems with profiling. You don't spend
20% of the resources. You spend 80% of the resources, and ignore all
the rest. Put two people on an airplane, one a young Muslim man, the
other an older white woman. The woman is carrying the bomb. While all
the airport security focuses on the young Muslim man, the woman slips
on board.

Rediculous. You would never get a job as a profiler.

Yup, but consider, this last incident was caused by a black Nigerian, not
an Arab. As I said before, if you want to profile a terrorist, fine, but
if you think racial profiling is the answer, you are going to miss a lot
of terrorists, McVeigh, the Unabomber, the Shoe Bomber, Black Widows,
etc., etc.

The majority religion in Nigeria is Islam.

AND a visit to Yemen...quick google search on "yemen terrorism" has quit
a few hits. Including a ship bombing.

This guy had terrorist almost written all over him.
Nigeria-Yemem-Amsterdam-Detroit isn't a common or direct flight plan.

On 27/12/2009 10:26 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On 27/12/2009 8:40 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:09 pm, wrote:
On 27/12/2009 4:35 PM, Tom Francis wrote:

On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:40:14 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

What say you fliers?

Have to ask Janet "The System Worked" Napolitano.

"DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano said that the thwarting of the attempt
to blow up the Amsterdam-Detroit flight this week demonstrated that
“the system worked.”

What a clueless wench. More like the idiot got nervious when mixing the
chemicals and messed up on his lap. Hope he burned his balls. But luck
had more to do with it. It wasn't time to die for the people on board.

But the plane landed safely, so the system had to work, eh?

One has to ask how the system made a difference.

He got on the plane right past authorities with an explosive compound. It
was his mistakes, not the governments actions that saved the day. Because
even if you were willing to die, I doubt seriously you would want to fry
your balls first.

Ok, that was funny. In any case she was talking about after the incident
started. Perhaps we should see what the investigations show? Nah... just
blame Obama.

Actiually, I blame peoples stupidity. But Obama be the one responsible
these days. I didn't agree with Bush's go at it either. Too many
purely politicial barriers in doing this right.

For example, why did it take so long to put locks on the cabin doors to
the pilots? Because big budgets and fast talk were more important than
reality.

Talk a look at who they do catch, and always there is a person behind it
that takes there job seriously, including profiling and whatever they
can use.