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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 13:55:20 -0500, Harry
wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. Dammit Don. Are you trying to disarm me? Yes...you & the entire Dopey Army...... for the sake of American children everywhere. I believe while you were away, flajim revealed himself (by accident) as one of the ID spoofers. He was caught, then he went into denial. Apparently at the same time, his wife left him for...a cucumber. I heard it was the fruits and vegetable manager at the local supermarket. |
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![]() "Harry" wrote in message news ![]() Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. Dammit Don. Are you trying to disarm me? Yes...you & the entire Dopey Army...... for the sake of American children everywhere. I believe while you were away, flajim revealed himself (by accident) as one of the ID spoofers. He was caught, then he went into denial. Apparently at the same time, his wife left him for...a cucumber. There was no doubt that he was one of the cheap imitations. The other one (ones) could be Looneytunes, Jackoff, Ditzy Dan....or even Waylon Smithers. Do you think The Freak is still fooled by them? |
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Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message news ![]() Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. Dammit Don. Are you trying to disarm me? Yes...you & the entire Dopey Army...... for the sake of American children everywhere. I believe while you were away, flajim revealed himself (by accident) as one of the ID spoofers. He was caught, then he went into denial. Apparently at the same time, his wife left him for...a cucumber. There was no doubt that he was one of the cheap imitations. The other one (ones) could be Looneytunes, Jackoff, Ditzy Dan....or even Waylon Smithers. Do you think The Freak is still fooled by them? Of course...anyone or anything could fool snotty scotty. |
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On 03/01/2010 9:13 AM, Harry wrote:
Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to long guns, but it doesn't. All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone from out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia without any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And anyone includes retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy. That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun Laws.... no cherry picking for the most lax laws. Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their families. I once read an article that 41% or so of the deaths from firearms in the home were accidental. Does that mean 59% protected life and property? And if government can't take guns away from the criminals, why take them away from honest people? Does not mak sense unless you want the herd of people to be passive to abuse. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
On 03/01/2010 9:13 AM, Harry wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to long guns, but it doesn't. All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone from out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia without any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And anyone includes retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy. That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun Laws.... no cherry picking for the most lax laws. Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their families. I once read an article that 41% or so of the deaths from firearms in the home were accidental. Does that mean 59% protected life and property? It probably means most of the rest were murders. |
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On 03/01/2010 2:30 PM, Harry wrote:
Canuck57 wrote: On 03/01/2010 9:13 AM, Harry wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to long guns, but it doesn't. All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone from out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia without any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And anyone includes retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy. That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun Laws.... no cherry picking for the most lax laws. Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their families. I once read an article that 41% or so of the deaths from firearms in the home were accidental. Does that mean 59% protected life and property? It probably means most of the rest were murders. Who gives a damn if a house thief, rapist, murder maniac, child molester, bar fighter, mafia, drug dealer/pusher, peeping toms, purse snatchers or terrorist dies? In fact, think of how much it saves society in legal and incarseration costs and no repeat offenses? Maybe make it legal to shoot those in the act of a violent and wilful crime! Since most misuses of guns is criminal, and many are criminal killing criminal, I want to know how many innocents get saved by having and not having guns before supporting no guns. If not having guns for honest people is because of drug killing drive by killing of a dope dealer, wrong reason. I will support removing guns from honest people when it can be demonstraighted that guns are removed from those that would harm us, which includes governemnt, mafia and common criminals. Taking guns from honest good people is simply making them sheep for abuse. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
On 03/01/2010 2:30 PM, Harry wrote: Canuck57 wrote: On 03/01/2010 9:13 AM, Harry wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to long guns, but it doesn't. All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone from out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia without any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And anyone includes retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy. That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun Laws.... no cherry picking for the most lax laws. Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their families. I once read an article that 41% or so of the deaths from firearms in the home were accidental. Does that mean 59% protected life and property? It probably means most of the rest were murders. Who gives a damn if a house thief, rapist, murder maniac, child molester, bar fighter, mafia, drug dealer/pusher, peeping toms, purse snatchers or terrorist dies? In fact, think of how much it saves society in legal and incarseration costs and no repeat offenses? Maybe make it legal to shoot those in the act of a violent and wilful crime! Since most misuses of guns is criminal, and many are criminal killing criminal, I want to know how many innocents get saved by having and not having guns before supporting no guns. If not having guns for honest people is because of drug killing drive by killing of a dope dealer, wrong reason. I will support removing guns from honest people when it can be demonstraighted that guns are removed from those that would harm us, which includes governemnt, mafia and common criminals. Taking guns from honest good people is simply making them sheep for abuse. If you have firearms, they probably should be removed from your household. Your first two paragraphs indicate you are crazy. You have no understanding of the rule of law, either. |
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Don White wrote:
"Harry" wrote in message news ![]() Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. Dammit Don. Are you trying to disarm me? Yes...you & the entire Dopey Army...... for the sake of American children everywhere. I believe while you were away, flajim revealed himself (by accident) as one of the ID spoofers. He was caught, then he went into denial. Apparently at the same time, his wife left him for...a cucumber. There was no doubt that he was one of the cheap imitations. The other one (ones) could be Looneytunes, Jackoff, Ditzy Dan....or even Waylon Smithers. Do you think The Freak is still fooled by them? It's funny to see how you've been taken in. |
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Harry wrote:
Canuck57 wrote: On 03/01/2010 9:13 AM, Harry wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to long guns, but it doesn't. All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone from out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia without any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And anyone includes retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy. That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun Laws.... no cherry picking for the most lax laws. Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their families. I once read an article that 41% or so of the deaths from firearms in the home were accidental. Does that mean 59% protected life and property? It probably means most of the rest were murders. Come on give me some applause. Didn't you notice how quickly I figured it out? |
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On 03/01/2010 3:46 PM, Harry wrote:
Canuck57 wrote: On 03/01/2010 2:30 PM, Harry wrote: Canuck57 wrote: On 03/01/2010 9:13 AM, Harry wrote: Don White wrote: "Harry" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Gun owners and the NRA may not be on same page Hard to know who to root for and who to hiss when you run across a stand-off between notorious Republican strategist Frank Luntz and the scare-mongering behemoth otherwise known as the National Rifle Association. This round, let's listen to Luntz: Mr. Luntz queried 832 gun owners, including 401 card-carrying N.R.A. members, in a survey commissioned by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, the alliance of hundreds of executives seeking stronger gun laws. In flat rebuttal of N.R.A. propaganda, the findings showed that 69 percent of N.R.A. members supported closing the notorious gun-show loophole that invites laissez-faire arms dealing outside registration requirements. Even more members, 82 percent, favored banning gun purchases to suspects on terrorist watch lists who are now free to arm. And 69 percent disagreed with Congressionally imposed rules against sharing federal gun-trace information with state and local police agencies. So ... a majority of gun owners want the gun-show loophole closed, favor restrictions on banned gun purchases and think it's a good idea to have gun information shared between agencies. Makes you wonder how reasonable their views would be if they weren't being pumped up by propaganda and warned to lock and load every election by the rich gun lobby. Posted by SusanG at Kos. A reasonable person might assume that the NRA is owned & run by the gun manufacturers. Any responsible gun owner shouldn't object to stringent regulations to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, unstable or violent people etc. We have fairly stringent regs in Maryland. We have the federal "instant check," of course, but we also have a state police check and a 10-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns. It should also apply to long guns, but it doesn't. All this is made moot, though, by the fact that anyone, even someone from out of state, can buy rifles and pistols at gun shows in Virginia without any checks, thanks to the so-called gun show loophole. And anyone includes retards like JustHate and psychos like Froggy. That is darn scary...... the whole USA should be under Federal Gun Laws.... no cherry picking for the most lax laws. Not likely to happen in a country where gun nutzis put their firearms ahead of anything else in their lives, including the welfare of their families. I once read an article that 41% or so of the deaths from firearms in the home were accidental. Does that mean 59% protected life and property? It probably means most of the rest were murders. Who gives a damn if a house thief, rapist, murder maniac, child molester, bar fighter, mafia, drug dealer/pusher, peeping toms, purse snatchers or terrorist dies? In fact, think of how much it saves society in legal and incarseration costs and no repeat offenses? Maybe make it legal to shoot those in the act of a violent and wilful crime! Since most misuses of guns is criminal, and many are criminal killing criminal, I want to know how many innocents get saved by having and not having guns before supporting no guns. If not having guns for honest people is because of drug killing drive by killing of a dope dealer, wrong reason. I will support removing guns from honest people when it can be demonstraighted that guns are removed from those that would harm us, which includes governemnt, mafia and common criminals. Taking guns from honest good people is simply making them sheep for abuse. If you have firearms, they probably should be removed from your household. Your first two paragraphs indicate you are crazy. You have no understanding of the rule of law, either. Tell your wife, if you have one, you will stand by an do nothing while she is raped then killed in her own home because you wouldn't load up and cower behind the couch. I go by a moral code you would not understand. |
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