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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:18:46 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:14:22 -0600, thunder
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:43:13 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


Sirhan Sirhan was Palestinian. Certainly would get caught in a good
profiling. Arabic/Middle east, young male from Palestinian. Question
is why did he get into the US even back then? Was he about 24 at the
time?


Geeze, let's try a little simple math for the simpletons around here.
There are somewhere between one and a half to two billion Muslims on
this planet. How may of them do you think are young males? Maybe a
couple of hundred million? Some f'n profile.

Look, if you want to develop a true terrorist profile, fine. But if
anyone things that young male Muslims is an adequate profile, they are a
moron, and a racist.


No one proposed young, male Muslims as an adequate profile. Only a
blathering fool would seriously suggest such a thing. However, a good
case can be made for their use as a starting point.


Huh? From the blathering fool himself:


"No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So,
to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent
on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to
profile certain people.. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old
women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret
agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old
Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor
Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest
they be guilty of profiling."




BTW, Harry would get you for categorizing them as a 'race', ergo the
suggestion could not be 'racist'.


Uh, you were talking about Muslims. See number two:

racist
adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"
2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
[syn: {racist}, {antiblack}, {anti-Semite(a)}]
n 1: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior
to others [syn: {racist}, {racialist}

But, you did get a lot of name-calling into your posts.


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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:34:11 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:18:46 -0500, John H wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:14:22 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:43:13 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


Sirhan Sirhan was Palestinian. Certainly would get caught in a good
profiling. Arabic/Middle east, young male from Palestinian. Question
is why did he get into the US even back then? Was he about 24 at the
time?

Geeze, let's try a little simple math for the simpletons around here.
There are somewhere between one and a half to two billion Muslims on
this planet. How may of them do you think are young males? Maybe a
couple of hundred million? Some f'n profile.

Look, if you want to develop a true terrorist profile, fine. But if
anyone things that young male Muslims is an adequate profile, they are a
moron, and a racist.


No one proposed young, male Muslims as an adequate profile. Only a
blathering fool would seriously suggest such a thing. However, a good
case can be made for their use as a starting point.


Huh? From the blathering fool himself:


"No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So,
to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent
on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to
profile certain people.. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old
women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret
agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old
Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor
Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest
they be guilty of profiling."


The word in question was 'adequate' - your word. Your quote, above,
does make a good point, don't you think? That 'blathering fool' makes
some good sense.


BTW, Harry would get you for categorizing them as a 'race', ergo the
suggestion could not be 'racist'.


Uh, you were talking about Muslims. See number two:

racist
adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"
2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
[syn: {racist}, {antiblack}, {anti-Semite(a)}]
n 1: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior
to others [syn: {racist}, {racialist}


I don't need the convincing, Harry does.


But, you did get a lot of name-calling into your posts.


If the shoe fits...


I wear a size 13 or 14, depending on the make. Although, I don't see
the pertinence.
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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 10/01/2010 8:46 PM, Harry wrote:
lil abner wrote:

Find and destroy every one that is or supports and teaches terrorism
against Americans.
If it takes half our GNP then do it. It is necessary.


I'm sure you'll be among those enlisting to do this by going door to
door in Yemen and asking if there are any islamic terrorists inside.

Send us photos.


Might not be a bad idea. I was thinking in Kanadar for example, why they
don't sweep the city door to door and as they run, shoot. If they fail a
lie detector, shoot. Sweep the city 4 or 5 times and bet the terrorism
subsides big time.

Which makes me wonder of our governmetns really want to win this or is it
about the politics of protecting Saudi Arabia from it's own war mongering
people at American/Canadians costs in lives and money.

And if you know there is a terrorist in a small building, take the whole
building out. Quite screwing around for some big mouthed muslim dictator
sponsored UN sociopath with an axe to grind. When they pay the bills, we
can listen, until then the freeloaders at the UN should shut up.


Speaking about freeloaders....I wonder if the US ever paid up it's dues
arrears at the UN?


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On Jan 10, 8:34*pm, lil abner wrote:
Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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Just another reminder as to why OBOZO and every incumbent should be
rousted from office!


The beltway is too interested in their own survival instead of that of
this country as a free nation as intended by the founding fathers!


*A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they
support:***


*Absolutely No Profiling!


Pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice
test.


These events are actual events from history.. They really
happened! *Do you remember?


HERE'S THE TEST:


snip usual garbage...


Well, at least you are leaving the Blacks & Latinos alone for a bit.


He has made a correct statement about Muslim Terrorists. There re
countless others such as Madrid, Rome etc.
there were others such as the Utah shopping center, the Colorado Church,
Washington DC snippers, etc.
Islam is at war with everyone especially Americans even if we are not at
war with them.
Political correctness is running amuck.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


John doesn't miss an opportunity to hate. Do you think that all
Muslims are terrorists? Do you think that all terrorists are Muslims?
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On Jan 10, 9:28*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/01/2010 5:26 PM, John H wrote:





Just another reminder as to why OBOZO and every incumbent should be
rousted from office!


The beltway is too interested in their own survival instead of that of
this country as a free nation as intended by the founding fathers!


*A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they
support:***


*Absolutely No Profiling!


Pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice
test.


These events are actual events from history.. They really
happened! *Do you remember?


HERE'S THE TEST:


1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:


a.. Superman


b. Jay Leno


c. Harry Potter


d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40


2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and
* * massacred by :


a. Olga Corbett


b. Sitting Bull


c. Arnold Schwarzenegger


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:


a. Lost Norwegians


b. Elvis


c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women


d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in
Lebanon by:


a. John Dillinger


b. The King of Sweden


c. The Boy Scouts


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:


a. A pizza delivery boy


b. Pee Wee Herman


c.. Geraldo Rivera


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70
year old American passenger was *murdered and thrown
overboard in his wheelchair by:


a. The Smurfs


b. Davey Jones


c. The Little Mermaid


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US
Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:


a. Captain Kidd


b. Charles Lindberg


c. Mother Teresa


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:


a. Scooby Doo


b. The Tooth Fairy


c. The Sundance Kid


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:


a. Richard Simmons


b. Grandma Moses


c. Michael Jordan


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:


a. Mr. Rogers


b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's
women problems


c. The World Wrestling Federation


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as
missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two,
one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and
crashed by
the passengers.
Thousands of people were killed by:


a. Bugs Bunny,


b *Wiley E. Coyote,


c. Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:


a. Enron


b. The Lutheran Church


c. The NFL


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:


a. Bonnie and Clyde


b. Captain Kangaroo


c. Billy Graham


d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do
you? *So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly
fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no
longer be allowed to profile certain people.. They must conduct
random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots
with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the
President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal
hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but
leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be
guilty of profiling.


Foot note: Fort Hood Texas......another Muslim 39 years old
killed 13 people and wounded 30 some odd others... Does this fit the
profile?***


*NOW OUR COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF IS TELLING EVERYONE THE YOUNG MUSLIM THAT
ATTEMPTED TO BLOW UP A NORTHWEST/DELTA JET AS IT APPROACHED DETROIT*
ON CHRISTMAS DAY WAS (QUOTE) " AN ISOLATED INCIDENT".


YOU HAVE GOT TO BE *****TING ME OR WHAT!!! *AS MY GRANDFATHER USED TO
SAY: PLEASE DON'T **** ON MY LEG AND TELL ME IT'S RAINING"


Good compilation of the facts.

Maybe people should question, just maybe, just maybe Obama is a muslim
plant.


Hoooboy!! You win today's prize for the most unhinged, black
helicopter right wing blather of the day!! Perhaps John and Froggy
need to step the insanity up a bit!


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On Jan 11, 9:00*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:34:11 -0600, thunder
wrote:



On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:18:46 -0500, John H wrote:


On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:14:22 -0600, thunder
wrote:


On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:43:13 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


Sirhan Sirhan was Palestinian. *Certainly would get caught in a good
profiling. *Arabic/Middle east, young male from Palestinian. *Question
is why did he get into the US even back then? *Was he about 24 at the
time?


Geeze, let's try a little simple math for the simpletons around here.
There are somewhere between one and a half to two billion Muslims on
this planet. *How may of them do you think are young males? *Maybe a
couple of hundred million? *Some f'n profile.


Look, if you want to develop a true terrorist profile, fine. *But if
anyone things that young male Muslims is an adequate profile, they are a
moron, and a racist.


No one proposed young, male Muslims as an adequate profile. Only a
blathering fool would seriously suggest such a thing. However, a good
case can be made for their use as a starting point.


Huh? *From the blathering fool himself:


"No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? *So,
to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent
on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to
profile certain people.. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old
women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret
agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old
Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor
Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest
they be guilty of profiling."


The word in question was 'adequate' - your word. Your quote, above,
does make a good point, don't you think? That 'blathering fool' makes
some good sense.



BTW, Harry would get you for categorizing them as a 'race', ergo the
suggestion could not be 'racist'.


Uh, you were talking about Muslims. *See number two:


racist
* * *adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks"
* * *2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion
* * * * [syn: {racist}, {antiblack}, {anti-Semite(a)}]
* * *n 1: a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior
* * * * * to others [syn: {racist}, {racialist}


I don't need the convincing, Harry does.

But, you did get a lot of name-calling into your posts.


If the shoe fits...


I wear a size 13 or 14, depending on the make. Although, I don't see
the pertinence.
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John H


I wear a size 13 or 14, depending on the make. Although, I don't
see
the pertinence.

Big enough to constantly stick in your big mouth.......
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In article , lil abner
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thunder wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:43:13 -0700, Canuck57 wrote:


Sirhan Sirhan was Palestinian. Certainly would get caught in a good
profiling. Arabic/Middle east, young male from Palestinian. Question
is why did he get into the US even back then? Was he about 24 at the
time?


Geeze, let's try a little simple math for the simpletons around here.
There are somewhere between one and a half to two billion Muslims on this
planet. How may of them do you think are young males? Maybe a couple of
hundred million? Some f'n profile.

Look, if you want to develop a true terrorist profile, fine. But if
anyone things that young male Muslims is an adequate profile, they are a
moron, and a racist.


He supports the case of closing US immigation and visas to the profile
if anything.


Typical expected response from a pc liberal?
No one likes the idea too much but....
we are in a war, not by our declaration.
They intend, to keep on killing and terrorizing us, even if we withdraw
from the battle or defending ourselves
I don't give a damned what someone thinks when we are fighting for our
lives.
I'm sure there were a lot of nice Nazis...?
I am not ready, as some in Washington and Chicago etc seem to be, to
live under a new status quo of being treated as criminals or potential
criminals in order to safe guard us.
Do you like the idea of a police state, in order to be secure?
I understand they are going to prosecute a guy because he went beyond a
rope to wish his girl friend good bye.
This is nuts. He is charged because the Islamic Fanatics have succeeded
in making us jail our selves and subjecting us to Orwellian monitoring
and supervision.
Find and destroy every one that is or supports and teaches terrorism
against Americans.
If it takes half our GNP then do it. It is necessary.


He was an asshole with no brain. He had approached the gate before that
and been told to clear the area and stay away. He waited for the guard
to **** up and went through anyway after he had been warned... That is
illegal in an airport and the intent is clear. Criminal activity with
intent needs to be addressed, especially in an airport. Just because we
are paranoid about fundie terrorists, doesn't mean they are not out to
get us...
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:28:56 -0500, Harry
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:26:11 -0500, John H
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Just another reminder as to why OBOZO and every incumbent should be
rousted from office!
and how many profiling programs did the GOP put in place?

seems all they wanted to do is torture american citizens and deny them
their rights



I guess everyone has forgotten about Mr. McVeigh... the worst domestic
terror attack prior to 9/11. Too bad Clinton didn't profile muslims.


Of all the terrorists you found one anglo. You are hoping to make a
point, I trust.


richard reid....jose padilla...neither were arabs.
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:28:56 -0500, Harry
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:26:11 -0500, John H
wrote:

Just another reminder as to why OBOZO and every incumbent should be
rousted from office!
and how many profiling programs did the GOP put in place?

seems all they wanted to do is torture american citizens and deny them
their rights


I guess everyone has forgotten about Mr. McVeigh... the worst domestic
terror attack prior to 9/11. Too bad Clinton didn't profile muslims.


Of all the terrorists you found one anglo. You are hoping to make a
point, I trust.


richard reid....jose padilla...neither were arabs.



Of all the terrorists I found, McV actually killed people... lots of people.

What happened to the real Harry? I don't even see this trolls posts any
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:30:13 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:28:56 -0500, Harry
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:26:11 -0500, John H
wrote:

Just another reminder as to why OBOZO and every incumbent should be
rousted from office!
and how many profiling programs did the GOP put in place?

seems all they wanted to do is torture american citizens and deny them
their rights


I guess everyone has forgotten about Mr. McVeigh... the worst domestic
terror attack prior to 9/11. Too bad Clinton didn't profile muslims.


Of all the terrorists you found one anglo. You are hoping to make a
point, I trust.


richard reid....jose padilla...neither were arabs.



Of all the terrorists I found, McV actually killed people... lots of people.

What happened to the real Harry? I don't even see this trolls posts any
more.


You'll need a decent news reader so you can see the headers. He posts
from earthlink. The idiots post from eternal september (present
company excluded), espreranza.aioe and elsewhere.
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