On 4/20/10 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:47:44 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:17:38 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:43:40 -0500, "Peter (Yes, that one)"


l. If
Obama uses the same logic he used on health care he will have wall
street lobbyists writing the deregulation bill.

except it was the GOP that just met behind closed doors with 25
representatives from wall street. they also discussed how the GOP
needs campaign money

strange coincidence

Wall street will still be writing this bill, no matter which side it
comes from. Obama's people are wall street insiders too.


I also find it amusing that bank whore Dodd is out there acting like
he is the regulator in chief. He has been pimping for banks and
insurance companies for three and a half decades

yep. it is a 'strange' turnaround, isnt it?

He is in danger of losing his seat. Dodd is walking the tight rope of
trying to look like a populist and still being able to collect
insurance/bank money in his campaign war chest. The fact remains that
running for office is still a billion dollar game and rich people are
the only ones with the money to play it effectively.


Dodd already has announced he is not running for re-election.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:14:28 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:04:11 -0700, "Bill McKee"
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The boomers are just starting to wallow up to the trough. This will
never recover. Most will not be waiting for 66 either, they are taking
it at 62. I am the only person I know over 62 who is not collecting.

You should be collecting. When I signed up at 62, Suzy Orman said you
had
to live to 73 or maybe 76 to break even. The Social Security guy stated
I
would be ahead of the game if I lived past 80. You don't think they
will
have cut benefits in the next 13 years? Since the age to collect goes
up
every year, that is the same as cutting benefits. They just have not
got
to
those 62 year olds yet.


I know. I guess I was just OK without it and thought of it as a
savings program of sorts but I agree I should be banking it if nothing
else.
Is there any advantage to waiting for your birthday or is it pro rated
throughout the year?

do not know about prorating per month or year. I know there is an
increase
as you wait.

It is a significant number between 63 and 64 and worth waiting a few
months for if it is not pro rated per month.
I guess I could call SSA but I hate being on hold for hours and I
wouldn't bet the first person answering the phone would have the right
answer. It is like calling the IRS. I guess I will poke around the web
site a little more.

Get an appointment. And they were easy to deal with when I went there.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:14:28 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:04:11 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

The boomers are just starting to wallow up to the trough. This will
never recover. Most will not be waiting for 66 either, they are
taking
it at 62. I am the only person I know over 62 who is not collecting.

You should be collecting. When I signed up at 62, Suzy Orman said you
had
to live to 73 or maybe 76 to break even. The Social Security guy
stated I
would be ahead of the game if I lived past 80. You don't think they
will
have cut benefits in the next 13 years? Since the age to collect goes
up
every year, that is the same as cutting benefits. They just have not
got
to
those 62 year olds yet.


I know. I guess I was just OK without it and thought of it as a
savings program of sorts but I agree I should be banking it if nothing
else.
Is there any advantage to waiting for your birthday or is it pro rated
throughout the year?

do not know about prorating per month or year. I know there is an
increase
as you wait.

It is a significant number between 63 and 64 and worth waiting a few
months for if it is not pro rated per month.
I guess I could call SSA but I hate being on hold for hours and I
wouldn't bet the first person answering the phone would have the right
answer. It is like calling the IRS. I guess I will poke around the web
site a little more.

Get an appointment. And they were easy to deal with when I went there.



Shocking! A gov't agency that works. News at 11!

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:00:51 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:47:44 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:17:38 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:43:40 -0500, "Peter (Yes, that one)"


l. If
Obama uses the same logic he used on health care he will have wall
street lobbyists writing the deregulation bill.

except it was the GOP that just met behind closed doors with 25
representatives from wall street. they also discussed how the GOP
needs campaign money

strange coincidence

Wall street will still be writing this bill, no matter which side it
comes from. Obama's people are wall street insiders too.

well that depends. the one thing the political class fears more than
wall street is losing an election. blanche lincoln has propose a bill
regulates derivatives so much that today the US chamber of congress
flew 25 corporate leaders to washington to meet with the GOP to
discuss how to defeat it.



I also find it amusing that bank whore Dodd is out there acting like
he is the regulator in chief. He has been pimping for banks and
insurance companies for three and a half decades

yep. it is a 'strange' turnaround, isnt it?

He is in danger of losing his seat. Dodd is walking the tight rope of
trying to look like a populist and still being able to collect
insurance/bank money in his campaign war chest. The fact remains that
running for office is still a billion dollar game and rich people are
the only ones with the money to play it effectively.

yep. and at this point there's no way out.

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 07:52:02 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 4/20/10 6:52 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:09:51 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:






The real issue is opposition by the GOP to any sort of real controls
over bank, insurance company

yep. today the US chamber of commerce flew 25 CEO's to washington, at
the behest of investment bankers, to tell the GOP to defeat blanche
lincoln's bill to regulate derivatives.

25 rich guys will get more of a hearing from the GOP than 100,000,000
americans. just look at what jim bunning did when unemployment funds
were running out. he gave the finger to the middle class

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:14:28 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:04:11 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

The boomers are just starting to wallow up to the trough. This will
never recover. Most will not be waiting for 66 either, they are
taking
it at 62. I am the only person I know over 62 who is not collecting.

You should be collecting. When I signed up at 62, Suzy Orman said you
had
to live to 73 or maybe 76 to break even. The Social Security guy
stated I
would be ahead of the game if I lived past 80. You don't think they
will
have cut benefits in the next 13 years? Since the age to collect goes
up
every year, that is the same as cutting benefits. They just have not
got
to
those 62 year olds yet.


I know. I guess I was just OK without it and thought of it as a
savings program of sorts but I agree I should be banking it if nothing
else.
Is there any advantage to waiting for your birthday or is it pro rated
throughout the year?

do not know about prorating per month or year. I know there is an
increase
as you wait.

It is a significant number between 63 and 64 and worth waiting a few
months for if it is not pro rated per month.
I guess I could call SSA but I hate being on hold for hours and I
wouldn't bet the first person answering the phone would have the right
answer. It is like calling the IRS. I guess I will poke around the web
site a little more.

Get an appointment. And they were easy to deal with when I went there.



Shocking! A gov't agency that works. News at 11!

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Nom=de=Plume


Actually. sort of. They wanted to see my DD-214. Which is a different
number from the USAF. Still do not know why, as I did not retire from the
air force. Did my stint and got out. But those without appointments made
it look like the DMV.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:14:28 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:04:11 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

The boomers are just starting to wallow up to the trough. This will
never recover. Most will not be waiting for 66 either, they are
taking
it at 62. I am the only person I know over 62 who is not
collecting.

You should be collecting. When I signed up at 62, Suzy Orman said
you had
to live to 73 or maybe 76 to break even. The Social Security guy
stated I
would be ahead of the game if I lived past 80. You don't think they
will
have cut benefits in the next 13 years? Since the age to collect
goes up
every year, that is the same as cutting benefits. They just have not
got
to
those 62 year olds yet.


I know. I guess I was just OK without it and thought of it as a
savings program of sorts but I agree I should be banking it if
nothing
else.
Is there any advantage to waiting for your birthday or is it pro
rated
throughout the year?

do not know about prorating per month or year. I know there is an
increase
as you wait.

It is a significant number between 63 and 64 and worth waiting a few
months for if it is not pro rated per month.
I guess I could call SSA but I hate being on hold for hours and I
wouldn't bet the first person answering the phone would have the right
answer. It is like calling the IRS. I guess I will poke around the web
site a little more.

Get an appointment. And they were easy to deal with when I went there.



Shocking! A gov't agency that works. News at 11!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Actually. sort of. They wanted to see my DD-214. Which is a different
number from the USAF. Still do not know why, as I did not retire from the
air force. Did my stint and got out. But those without appointments made
it look like the DMV.

Don't know if you know it, but the DMV makes appointments. I've never had to
wait more than 15 minutes.

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