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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and
embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is
becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good
engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and
experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would
overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in
storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give
you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is
nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything
about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The
Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual
vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and
stalker.-
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You've just described Harry to a tee!!!


So, just curious... why the hatred of Harry? You accused me of hating
someone, which I don't, but you're pretty antagonistic and seem to
post a
lot about him. Just wondering. I know he does similar, but I'm asking
you.



I used to stick up for loogy "back in the day," and only because he
seemed to be politically moderate, as opposed to the plethora of
right-wing scum that permeates this newsgroup. But after a while, I
realized he was just another short-tempered little ****, always
willing to go after others, whatever side of the spectrum they
favored. He also reminds me a bit of a small child with a
perseveration problem.

He's threatened me and others here several times, and has threatened
to show up here...even though he's been told he is not welcome. If he
tries to bust into the house, he's going to go home in a body bag. At
my age, I don't engage in fistfights with ****heads 20 or more years
young...if I am under "assault" in the house, I have another way to
handle the situation.


You're a bad ass! That's some scary ****!

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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and
embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is
becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience
is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would
overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in
storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing
to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything
about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The
Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual
vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and
stalker.-
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You've just described Harry to a tee!!!


So, just curious... why the hatred of Harry? You accused me of hating
someone, which I don't, but you're pretty antagonistic and seem to post a
lot about him. Just wondering. I know he does similar, but I'm asking
you.



I used to stick up for loogy "back in the day," and only because he seemed
to be politically moderate, as opposed to the plethora of right-wing scum
that permeates this newsgroup. But after a while, I realized he was just
another short-tempered little ****, always willing to go after others,
whatever side of the spectrum they favored. He also reminds me a bit of a
small child with a perseveration problem.

He's threatened me and others here several times, and has threatened to
show up here...even though he's been told he is not welcome. If he tries
to bust into the house, he's going to go home in a body bag. At my age, I
don't engage in fistfights with ****heads 20 or more years young...if I am
under "assault" in the house, I have another way to handle the situation.


Looney had his big chance when you visited his backyard.
Where was he.... hiding out in the swamps. Some tough guy!

On Apr 30, 4:31*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and
embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is
becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would
overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in
storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything
about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The
Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and stalker.-
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You've just described Harry to a tee!!!

So, just curious... why the hatred of Harry? You accused me of hating
someone, which I don't, but you're pretty antagonistic and seem to post a
lot about him. Just wondering. I know he does similar, but I'm asking you..- Hide quoted text -

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Well, mainly because he lies about everything. He's been caught in so
many lies that it's hard to count. Then, when caught in those lies,
his out is to sling childish insults and petty name calling. Did you
know that, by counting from the past, that his wife is getting her
THIRD doctorate degree "soon"?

On Apr 30, 6:11*pm, hk wrote:
On 4/30/10 4:31 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:





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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
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On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
*wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and
embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is
becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would
overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in
storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything
about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The
Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and stalker.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You've just described Harry to a tee!!!

So, just curious... why the hatred of Harry? You accused me of hating
someone, which I don't, but you're pretty antagonistic and seem to post a
lot about him. Just wondering. I know he does similar, but I'm asking you.

I used to stick up for loogy "back in the day," and only because he
seemed to be politically moderate, as opposed to the plethora of
right-wing scum that permeates this newsgroup. But after a while, I
realized he was just another short-tempered little ****, always willing
to go after others, whatever side of the spectrum they favored. He also
reminds me a bit of a small child with a perseveration problem.

He's threatened me and others here several times, and has threatened to
show up here...even though he's been told he is not welcome. If he tries
to bust into the house, he's going to go home in a body bag. At my age,
I don't engage in fistfights with ****heads 20 or more years young...if
I am under "assault" in the house, I have another way to handle the
situation.

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Another low life lie by Harry. Show me where I've ever "threatened"
you. Come on, fat ass, you said it, now prove it.

On 4/30/2010 9:28 PM, Larry wrote:
hk wrote:
On 4/30/10 4:31 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Apr 30, 1:53 pm, wrote:
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On 4/30/2010 12:51 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Apr 29, 11:02 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...

On 4/28/2010 10:58 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:03:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Then there are storms.

How does an engine help in a storm? I doubt much.

Wrong, possibly dead wrong with bad luck. Some of these issues
have
already been discussed in this thread. Repeating and
embellishing,
one of the most common issues with salboats in a storm is
becoming
overwhelmed by the wind. This is particularly dangerous when
close
to a leeward shore or some other immovable object. A good
engine
can
help a lot to maintain control and the ability to make way to
windward. There is much to learn about all this and
experience is
a
tough teacher.

Well, I was thinking of the limiting case where wind would
overwhelm
engine
output and where there's no "land" issue. Seems to me that in
storm
(survival) conditions, even a small amount of sail would give
you
more
control than an engine could, even if that means not making
progress.. I
read
the Perfect Storm, and I don't recall the sailboat having use of
engine
to
maintain control.

I'm still trying to believe you aren't trolling...

The Andrea Gail (sp?) was a fishing trawler - not a sailboat.

You're an idiot. It was the Satori. Try again bozo.

Perhaps he didn't remember the sailboat. So what. There is
nothing to
argue about with you because you simple don't understand anything
about
sailing or trying to maintain some control in stormy seas. The
Perfect
Storm was one mutha of a storm and I don't see what point you could
possibly be leading to by referencing it.

You know nothing. You want to know nothing. You just want to make
stupid
arguments. Go away.

Or, perhaps he's a liar. And, perhaps you're a stalker... you keep
posting
about me, to me.

And you love it so, keep acting annoyed.

We should all stop posting to or about Plume at 8AM. The residual
vacuum
will suck Plume's brain out, with any luck.

Yes! You should. But, you can't. You're a wimp, coward, liar and
stalker.-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You've just described Harry to a tee!!!


So, just curious... why the hatred of Harry? You accused me of hating
someone, which I don't, but you're pretty antagonistic and seem to
post a
lot about him. Just wondering. I know he does similar, but I'm asking
you.



I used to stick up for loogy "back in the day," and only because he
seemed to be politically moderate, as opposed to the plethora of
right-wing scum that permeates this newsgroup. But after a while, I
realized he was just another short-tempered little ****, always
willing to go after others, whatever side of the spectrum they
favored. He also reminds me a bit of a small child with a
perseveration problem.

He's threatened me and others here several times, and has threatened
to show up here...even though he's been told he is not welcome. If he
tries to bust into the house, he's going to go home in a body bag. At
my age, I don't engage in fistfights with ****heads 20 or more years
young...if I am under "assault" in the house, I have another way to
handle the situation.


You're a bad ass! That's some scary ****!

Bad Ass? Now that's rich. Harry is a coward and a pansy.
He got a school deferment and after that expired he hid out till he got
old.