On 4/23/10 5:24 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 4/23/10 11:26 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 8:29 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/23/10 10:21 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 7:48 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/23/10 9:42 AM, Canuck57 wrote:

Now if you lose 5% or 7% purchasing power over a working career, I
doubt
anyone would argue that it would buy a boat... right?

After all given Democat/Obama debt-spending is at record levels,
bailing
out the inept, lazy, corrupt comes at a cost right?

http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/20...-tax-increase/





The big reason greedy big fat government likes VAT is simple, it
gets
everyone. Shares the pain. Instead of punitive taxes on the 30% (or
less) of those that work in non-governmetn jobs and pay any
signifigant
amout of taxes, it isn't limited to the 30%. It gets 100% of us.



Us? Why would you be subject to such a tax, *if* it were imposed in
the
USA? You're a Canadian, living in Canada.

Oh...and you're quoting from Faux News, the home of tea partying
teabaggers...the bull**** news network.

What? You don't believe big mouth debt spender Obama doesn't want a
huge
increase in revenue from the sheeples?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100421/...e/us_obama_tax


First, I asked why you used "us," since "us," as you used it, wouldn't
apply to Canadians living in Canada. You're not one of us, as it were.

Second, there's no need to even consider what you think are your points
when you use terms like "big mouth debt spender Obama." Obama is
extricating this country from a terrific mess left him by his
predecessor. It looks like what he has done so far is beginning to
work.
The opposing party had no logical plan for bringing us out of Bush
recession.

Well, Obama talks a lot, big mouth.

Running into the second year of record debt spending makes Obama a debt
monger.

US government is hungry for your money, you are right, I will not have
to pay much of the US VAT. But I used to like going to Montana shopping,
guess I had better go early this year as to avoid the US VAT.

Anyone who thought Obamanomics in and Obamanation is about to find out
that Obama isn't free, he is quite taxing.


I never thought repairing the damage caused by eight years of Bush and
Cheney would be free, and I thought our taxes would go up in order to
help pull this country out of the Bush-Cheney deep, dark hole. My wife
and I expect to be paying more in taxes next year, in one form or
another.

If you want to live in fear of a VAT that may be imposted in the future,
you go right ahead. It'll just be another entry on the stupid decisions
you've made in live.


If he wants to correct the Bush overspending, seems an odd way to do the
job. Should be cutting spending by the Fed's. Lots of Bush's problem is
he vetoed maybe 2 spending bills in the 8 years. And Bush overspending in
his 8 years is probably the major screwup. Even more than opening up a
2nd front in the war.



Cutting what spending by the Fed? Specifically what? Oh wait, let me
guess... programs that help the poor and the middle class.

Nice slam on Bush though...


The funny thing is, he thought that when I mentioned the "damage caused
by eight years of Bush..." I was referring to overspending. I wasn't.


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The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:42:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Now if you lose 5% or 7% purchasing power over a working career, I doubt
anyone would argue that it would buy a boat... right?

After all given Democat/Obama debt-spending is at record levels, bailing
out the inept, lazy, corrupt comes at a cost right?

actually they're protecting jobs. to the right, that's
unforgiveable...protecting the middle class. we should only protect
the rich

and the biggest spender in history was george bush

Watch, as soon as November is over, or perhaps sooner, VAT is comming to
a till near you. Unless of course you lefties wake up and smell the
coffee, which is unlikely.

You Obama supporters didn't think Obamanation was free did you?

more bitching. when the right wing comes up with a plan, let us know

they gave away middle class incomes to the rich

THEN they complain when the middle class protects itself

canuch is a racist

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:26:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Well, Obama talks a lot, big mouth.

you mean like 'bring it ON!!'?

oh..wait...that was bush...

wonder how many US troops died after bush shot off his mouth


Running into the second year of record debt spending makes Obama a debt
monger.

uh no. you just dont realize what shape the economy is in. right
wingers are clueless


Anyone who thought Obamanomics in and Obamanation is about to find out
that Obama isn't free, he is quite taxing.

he thinks obama's been president for 9 years

he ignores the rich white boy bush

On 4/23/10 6:16 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 3:26 PM, hk wrote:

The funny thing is, he thought that when I mentioned the "damage caused
by eight years of Bush..." I was referring to overspending. I wasn't.

So what is taking Obama so long to fix it? Is Obama still letting Bush
run the government?


This is a serious question: are you retarded?



--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

On 23/04/2010 4:41 PM, hk wrote:
On 4/23/10 6:16 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 3:26 PM, hk wrote:

The funny thing is, he thought that when I mentioned the "damage caused
by eight years of Bush..." I was referring to overspending. I wasn't.

So what is taking Obama so long to fix it? Is Obama still letting Bush
run the government?


This is a serious question: are you retarded?

Are you in denialism of who has be el presidente for the last 16 months?

Denialism is a mental disorder. Hey, maybe we should all work for Obama
and surf the Internet all day. Think, you could get paid by Obama with
benefits to do this.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On 4/23/10 6:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 4:41 PM, hk wrote:
On 4/23/10 6:16 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 3:26 PM, hk wrote:

The funny thing is, he thought that when I mentioned the "damage caused
by eight years of Bush..." I was referring to overspending. I wasn't.

So what is taking Obama so long to fix it? Is Obama still letting Bush
run the government?


This is a serious question: are you retarded?

Are you in denialism of who has be el presidente for the last 16 months?

Denialism is a mental disorder. Hey, maybe we should all work for Obama
and surf the Internet all day. Think, you could get paid by Obama with
benefits to do this.


You think eight years of messes can be cleaned up in 16 months?

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

On 23/04/2010 4:16 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 07:42:33 -0600,
wrote:


Now if you lose 5% or 7% purchasing power over a working career, I doubt
anyone would argue that it would buy a boat... right?

After all given Democat/Obama debt-spending is at record levels, bailing
out the inept, lazy, corrupt comes at a cost right?

actually they're protecting jobs. to the right, that's
unforgiveable...protecting the middle class. we should only protect
the rich

Only if you are in denialism. Corrupt auto jobs were lost a long time
ago. While GM was getting bailouts for it's inept business model, other
companies were laying off as GM was producing subsidized vehicles. In
2009 GM recieved over $60,000 per vehicle it made to stay in business.

What Obamanites don't want to admit is by keeping GM alive, how many
Toyota, Ford, Honda and others were laid off? How many lost their jobs
because of people worried about pending tax hikes to fund this
Obamanation?

You complain about "rich". Well how come Obama hasn't cahrged on single
executive, accountant or anyone with the GM fraud? Even though a court
has rules GM mistated financials like Enron and SOX laws exist, Obama
isn't charging anyone.

Going after Goldman, just PR to look like he is doing something. But as
per usual, just a big mouth on a soap box selling more debt-spend.

and the biggest spender in history was george bush

Right about now that shifts to Obama. Certainly by the end of the year
Obama will have racked more debt that Bush. In fact, by the end of 2010
Obama will hold the two top debtor years in American history, 2009 and 2010.

Watch, as soon as November is over, or perhaps sooner, VAT is comming to
a till near you. Unless of course you lefties wake up and smell the
coffee, which is unlikely.

You Obama supporters didn't think Obamanation was free did you?

more bitching. when the right wing comes up with a plan, let us know

they gave away middle class incomes to the rich

THEN they complain when the middle class protects itself

canuch is a racist

Think what you want. I turned on Bsh when he started the bailout
corruption. I actually had hopes that Obama would stop it. But looks
like Obama is just a bull****er.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On 23/04/2010 5:02 PM, hk wrote:
On 4/23/10 6:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 4:41 PM, hk wrote:
On 4/23/10 6:16 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 3:26 PM, hk wrote:

The funny thing is, he thought that when I mentioned the "damage
caused
by eight years of Bush..." I was referring to overspending. I wasn't.

So what is taking Obama so long to fix it? Is Obama still letting Bush
run the government?


This is a serious question: are you retarded?

Are you in denialism of who has be el presidente for the last 16 months?

Denialism is a mental disorder. Hey, maybe we should all work for Obama
and surf the Internet all day. Think, you could get paid by Obama with
benefits to do this.


You think eight years of messes can be cleaned up in 16 months?

First, I don't think much went wrong for 7 of 8 years of Bush.
Democrats and Repulicans told him to go to war, he did.

Congress decided debt was good, and wanted cheap easy debt being they
are liberal debtors and lowered the cost of debt too much. Congress
manages the money supply, look to democrat congress for who screwed up.

Congress wanted cheap easy debt and created the debt bubble. Blame Bush
all you want, but debt is congress and it has been democriters ball game.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 4/23/10 6:16 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 3:26 PM, hk wrote:

The funny thing is, he thought that when I mentioned the "damage caused
by eight years of Bush..." I was referring to overspending. I wasn't.

So what is taking Obama so long to fix it? Is Obama still letting Bush
run the government?


This is a serious question: are you retarded?


Is *that* a serious question? Oh wait, it's a rhetorical question. I get it.


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Nom=de=Plume

"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 4/23/10 6:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 4:41 PM, hk wrote:
On 4/23/10 6:16 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2010 3:26 PM, hk wrote:

The funny thing is, he thought that when I mentioned the "damage
caused
by eight years of Bush..." I was referring to overspending. I wasn't.

So what is taking Obama so long to fix it? Is Obama still letting Bush
run the government?


This is a serious question: are you retarded?

Are you in denialism of who has be el presidente for the last 16 months?

Denialism is a mental disorder. Hey, maybe we should all work for Obama
and surf the Internet all day. Think, you could get paid by Obama with
benefits to do this.


You think eight years of messes can be cleaned up in 16 months?

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.


I'm hoping it can be cleaned up in four years. It's unclear if even that is
possible.

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Nom=de=Plume