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Sent to me by a friend. Now I can better understand the relationships between
Democrats and tort reform. Not putting down Democrats, or anything, just thinking out loud. This hits close to home but makes some interesting points. A similar theme was articulated by Scalia a while back when he essentially said that "we are devoting too many of our best minds to lawyering". Barack Obama is a lawyer. Michelle Obama is a lawyer. Hillary Clinton is a lawyer. Bill Clinton is a lawyer. John Edwards is a lawyer. Elizabeth Edwards is a lawyer. Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate). Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school. Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress: Harry Reid is a lawyer. Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer. The Republican Party is different. President Bush is a businessman.. Vice President Cheney is a businessman. The leaders of the Republican Revolution: Newt Gingrich was a history professor. Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist. House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer. The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon. Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago and who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976. The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers. The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich. The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America. And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers' Party, grow. Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation. This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their side. Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then the role of the legal system in our life becomes all-consuming. Some Americans become "adverse parties" of our very government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers. Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions; we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big.. When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay, then the power of lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing. We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change, real reform or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy.. Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and business. Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work. Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only make our problems worse. The United States has 5% of the world's population and 66% of the world's lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in Congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as "spilling hot coffee on yourself and suing the establishment that sold it to you" and also to limit punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the American Trial Lawyers Association goes to the Democrat Party, then you realize who is responsible for our medical and product costs being so high! -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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On 4/27/10 5:41 PM, John H wrote:
The Republican Party is different. Yeah. It sure is. President Bush is a businessman.. A lousy one. Vice President Cheney is a businessman. And an unconvicted felon. The leaders of the Republican Revolution: Newt Gingrich was a history professor. who deserted his cancer-ridden wife. Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist. Bozos, both of htem. House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer. who can't tell the truth about anything. The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon. who was on the wrong side medically in the terry schiavo case. -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygxs5v Your heros are bozos. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:46:29 -0400, hk
wrote: On 4/27/10 5:41 PM, John H wrote: The Republican Party is different. Yeah. It sure is. President Bush is a businessman.. A lousy one. yep. he went bankrupt every time Vice President Cheney is a businessman. And an unconvicted felon. yep. he thought exxon was more important than the american people |
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On 27/04/2010 3:46 PM, hk wrote:
On 4/27/10 5:41 PM, John H wrote: The Republican Party is different. Yeah. It sure is. Thank god. President Bush is a businessman.. A lousy one. Better than Obama who never owned his own business. But does explain why Obama is sucha dip**** about maters of economics. Vice President Cheney is a businessman. And an unconvicted felon. Funny, there is a list on the internet of the 2000 congress and criminal records, about 2/3rds were democrats. The leaders of the Republican Revolution: Newt Gingrich was a history professor. who deserted his cancer-ridden wife. I know liberals who have deserted 12 children. To a large degree to be a corrupt politician and live with yourself you would need an above average score as a sociopath. That is true of ANY politican. It is supported by research that politicians, CEOs, lawyers, pimps, drug dealers, profession car and home theives share higher than average sociopathy. The largest difference is the class, opportunity and education. -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:07:54 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 27/04/2010 3:46 PM, hk wrote: On 4/27/10 5:41 PM, John H wrote: The Republican Party is different. Yeah. It sure is. Thank god. President Bush is a businessman.. A lousy one. Better than Obama who never owned his own business. neither did bush. daddy's friend bankrolled his. But does explain why Obama is sucha dip**** about maters of economics. ROFLMAO!! who spent a trillion in iraq? BUSH! Vice President Cheney is a businessman. And an unconvicted felon. Funny, there is a list on the internet of the 2000 congress and criminal records, about 2/3rds were democrats. that's because the GOP, being the party of the rich, just writes the laws so that what the rich do isn't a crime |
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On 27/04/2010 7:03 PM, bpuharic wrote:
ROFLMAO!! who spent a trillion in iraq? BUSH! Who debt-spent $2.5 trillion in 1/4 the time on jack ****? OBAMA! -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
On 27/04/2010 3:46 PM, hk wrote: On 4/27/10 5:41 PM, John H wrote: The Republican Party is different. Yeah. It sure is. Thank god. President Bush is a businessman.. A lousy one. Better than Obama who never owned his own business. But does explain why Obama is sucha dip**** about maters of economics. Vice President Cheney is a businessman. And an unconvicted felon. Funny, there is a list on the internet of the 2000 congress and criminal records, about 2/3rds were democrats. The leaders of the Republican Revolution: Newt Gingrich was a history professor. who deserted his cancer-ridden wife. I know liberals who have deserted 12 children. To a large degree to be a corrupt politician and live with yourself you would need an above average score as a sociopath. That is true of ANY politican. It is supported by research that politicians, CEOs, lawyers, pimps, drug dealers, profession car and home theives share higher than average sociopathy. The largest difference is the class, opportunity and education. Four words says it all. John Edwards, Democrat Lawyer. Jim - Boy, they'd like to sweep him under the rug. |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:20:45 -0500, Jim wrote:
Canuck57 wrote: On 27/04/2010 3:46 PM, hk wrote: On 4/27/10 5:41 PM, John H wrote: The Republican Part who deserted his cancer-ridden wife. I know liberals who have deserted 12 children. To a large degree to be a corrupt politician and live with yourself you would need an above average score as a sociopath. That is true of ANY politican. It is supported by research that politicians, CEOs, lawyers, pimps, drug dealers, profession car and home theives share higher than average sociopathy. The largest difference is the class, opportunity and education. Four words says it all. John Edwards, Democrat Lawyer. george bush, rich white boy Jim - Boy, they'd like to sweep him under the rug. |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:41:42 -0400, John H
wrote: President Bush is a businessman.. and he killed 4400 US troops and spent a trillion dollars in a war he could not win Vice President Cheney is a businessman. and he proved that by meeting behind closed doors with exxon to write US energy policy The leaders of the Republican Revolution: Newt Gingrich was a history professor. and he believed that slavery was virtually non existent in the US. Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist. so was phil gramm. gramm and his enron VP wife, wrote the law that prevented the govt from regulating derivatives. The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney create wealth?? HAHAHAHAHA!!! in the past 10 years the middle class has't had a pay increase. read THIS article by a noted CONSERVATIVE, david frum: http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/2....html?hpt=Sbin the rich created wealth by STEALING from the MIDDLE class then having the balls to make the middle class pay for their mistakes , or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich. and gingrich? what was his view on slavery and racism? The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America. And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers' Party, grow. enemies? like bush locking up US citizens on US soil without trial? Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation. or like the wealthy right wingers who turn meat packaging over to the meat companies, resulting in E coli infections in children, or drug pricing to the drug companies resuting in the US having the highest drug prices in the world, or turning healthcare over to insurance companies resulting in the US having the highest healthcare costs in the world... that the type of business you mean? Today, we are drowning in laws gee. the GOP controlled the govt...totally...for 6 years. did they reduce the number of laws? nope. .. When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing. anybody know what this means? how do democrats 'sue america'? We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change gee. we just got healthcare. that looks like real change. the GOP? nothing. except 4400 dead US troops. , real reform or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy.. declining moral values? anybody know what this means? OOHHHH...now i remember...put a cop in every bedroom to make sure you're having govt approved sex... in the name of a conservative, smaller govt. The United States has 5% of the world's population and 66% of the world's lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in Congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages notice limit punitive damages? any sign of increased responsibility on the part of corporations? the rich? nope 29 miners die in w. virginia. their famiies sue. why? because there are few laws protecting minors mothers whose children die from e coli infections sue. why? because there are no laws protecting our food supply and why are there no laws? because the 'business men' of whom you speak so highly...protected themselves by not permitting such laws to exist. no wonder the rich hate lawyers. they've prevented any protection for the middle class...and they want to gut the last vestiges of any protection at all |
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On Apr 27, 7:11*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:41:42 -0400, John H wrote: President Bush is a businessman.. and he killed 4400 US troops and spent a trillion dollars in a war he could not win Vice President Cheney is a businessman. and he proved that by meeting behind closed doors with exxon to write US energy policy The leaders of the Republican Revolution: Newt Gingrich was a history professor. and he believed that slavery was virtually non existent in the US. Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist. so was phil gramm. gramm and his enron VP wife, wrote the law that prevented the govt from regulating derivatives. The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney create wealth?? * HAHAHAHAHA!!! in the past 10 years the middle class has't had a pay increase. read THIS article by a noted CONSERVATIVE, david frum: http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/2...ce.china/index.... the rich created wealth by STEALING from the MIDDLE class then having the balls to make the middle class pay for their mistakes , or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich. and gingrich? what was his view on slavery and racism? The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America. And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers' Party, grow. enemies? like bush locking up US citizens on US soil without trial? Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation. or like the wealthy right wingers who turn meat packaging over to the meat companies, resulting in E coli infections in children, or drug pricing to the drug companies resuting in the US having the highest drug prices in the world, or turning healthcare over to insurance companies resulting in the US having the highest healthcare costs in the world... that the type of business you mean? Today, we are drowning in laws gee. the GOP controlled the govt...totally...for 6 years. did they reduce the number of laws? nope. . When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing. anybody know what this *means? how do democrats 'sue america'? We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change gee. we just got healthcare. that looks like real change. the GOP? nothing. except 4400 dead US troops. , real reform or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy... declining moral values? anybody know what this means? OOHHHH...now i remember...put a cop in every bedroom to make sure you're having govt approved sex... in the name of a conservative, smaller govt. The United States has 5% of the world's population and 66% of the world's lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in Congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages notice limit punitive damages? any sign of increased responsibility on the part of corporations? the rich? nope 29 miners die in w. virginia. their famiies sue. why? because there are few laws protecting minors mothers whose children die from e coli infections sue. why? because there are no laws protecting our food supply and why are there no laws? because the 'business men' of whom you speak so highly...protected themselves by not permitting such laws to exist. no wonder the rich hate lawyers. they've prevented any protection for the middle class...and they want to gut the last vestiges of any protection at all Would you please do us all a favor and get off your "the middle class got screwed kick"? I'm "middle class" but don't whine like a bitch, like 99% of you're posts do. Get over it, for Christ's sake. *You* relied on the Wall Street pigs to "gamble" your money (401K plan). Maybe, just maybe, it's not always somebody else's fault. Take a hard look in the mirror. Doesn't matter though; you're brainwashed. Carry on with your ranting and raving. *You* got screwed. We get it. Good grief :) Mike |
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