I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to
function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to
mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp
12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the
cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the
engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so
the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with
the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit
extra drag?

And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side
or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to
modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . Even Rube Goldberg had good
ideas... sometimes.


But also like what Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging
system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done
this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient
alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to
produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive
units made 20 years ago.

In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run
off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you
don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage
because both engines would share the same fuel mixture.

OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack.


Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning

On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote:
I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to
function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to
mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp
12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the
cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the
engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so
the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with
the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit
extra drag?

And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side
or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to
modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . Even Rube Goldberg had good
ideas... sometimes.


But also like what Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging
system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done
this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient
alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to
produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive
units made 20 years ago.

In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run
off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you
don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage
because both engines would share the same fuel mixture.

OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack.


Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning


http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb

About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely
to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device
you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device.


--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

On Apr 30, 9:07*am, hk wrote:
On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote:





I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to
function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to
mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp
12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the
cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the
engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so
the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with
the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit
extra drag?

And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side
or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to
modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . *Even Rube Goldberg had good
ideas... sometimes.

But also like what *Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging
system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done
this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient
alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to
produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive
units made 20 years ago.

In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run
off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you
don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage
because both engines would share the same fuel mixture.

OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack.

Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning

http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb

About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely
to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device
you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Built and plopped on? Just because you have absolutely no mechanical
skills doesn't mean that someone else doesn't.

On Apr 30, 8:56*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 30, 9:07*am, hk wrote:





On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote:

I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to
function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to
mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp
12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the
cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the
engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so
the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with
the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit
extra drag?

And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side
or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to
modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . *Even Rube Goldberg had good
ideas... sometimes.

But also like what *Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging
system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done
this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient
alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to
produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive
units made 20 years ago.

In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run
off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you
don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage
because both engines would share the same fuel mixture.

OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack.

Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning

http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb

About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely
to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device
you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Built and plopped on? Just because you have absolutely no mechanical
skills doesn't mean that someone else doesn't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I think this sums it up, Loog.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even
though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits
who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray
twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. "
Theodore Roosevelt

On Apr 30, 10:53*am, Tim wrote:
On Apr 30, 8:56*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 30, 9:07*am, hk wrote:

On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote:

I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to
function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to
mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp
12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the
cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the
engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so
the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with
the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit
extra drag?

And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side
or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to
modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . *Even Rube Goldberg had good
ideas... sometimes.

But also like what *Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging
system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done
this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient
alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to
produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive
units made 20 years ago.

In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run
off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you
don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage
because both engines would share the same fuel mixture.

OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack.

Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning

http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb

About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely
to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device
you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Built and plopped on? Just because you have absolutely no mechanical
skills doesn't mean that someone else doesn't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I think this sums it up, Loog.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even
though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits
who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray
twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. "
Theodore Roosevelt- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Indeed, brother!

Tim wrote:


I think this sums it up, Loog.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even
though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits
who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray
twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. "
Theodore Roosevelt


Just figure out how many fingers that's worth before doing anything.

Jim - Always count my fingers before getting brave.

On Apr 30, 11:19*am, Jim wrote:
Tim wrote:

I think this sums it up, Loog.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even
though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits
who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray
twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. "
Theodore Roosevelt

Just figure out how many fingers that's worth before doing anything.

Jim - Always count my fingers before getting brave.

And make sure not to take a leak over the back of the boat?

?8^ 0

On Apr 30, 8:07*am, hk wrote:
On 4/30/10 8:57 AM, Tim wrote:





I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to
function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to
mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp
12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the
cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the
engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so
the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with
the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit
extra drag?

And I know the contraption will look like a tumr hanging off the side
or rear of the engine, but I can do some specific cowling work to
modify it so it isnt' so 'tacky' . *Even Rube Goldberg had good
ideas... sometimes.

But also like what *Gfretwell pointed out, once can make a charging
system off a small gasoline lawnmower engine contraption. I've done
this too. But there are some really neat, small and highly efficient
alternators ont he market noow that have less drag of horspower to
produce the same amount of wattage as apposed to even the automotive
units made 20 years ago.

In other words, I can make a simple 30 amp, self regulated unit run
off a 40cc chain-saw engine.and the exhaust can be quieted down so you
don't hear all the buzzing racket, and this can be an advantage
because both engines would share the same fuel mixture.

OR, I might ust go by an 1800w gasoline inverter power pack.

Even though they may not go very far, the wheels are turning

http://tinyurl.com/2ejjkbb

About a grand, Honda, quiet, works...no experimentation needed. Unlikely
to get you pulled over by Homeland Security types who think that device
you built and plopped on your boat is a detonator for a nuclear device.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for the suggestion, Harry. but I'd just as soon make something.
I mean, I have the parts and it is in my line of work, and I'm an auto-
electric mechanic so.....

It just seems I should be able to come up with something I know about
instead of paying a wad for somebody's stuff. And I believe I can do
it for a 10th of what that Honda would run....if not less. Like I
mentioned. I'm not a slave to fashion, and we're going places where
fish poop, and not a gala outing at the Yacht Club.

Besides, if it goes overboard, there's no real loss, but the Honda?
I'd probably have to go diving for that one.

On May 1, 11:36*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I'm doing some thinking. I'm not a slave to fashion, but I am to
function. There's enough shaft space on the top of my v4's flywheel to
mount another pulley, and I'm considering mounting about a 50-75 amp
12volt alternator on an external bracket and running a belt though the
cowling. The reason why is because the meager 10 amp stator on the
engine itself jsut isn't going to cut it. I can modify the brackets so
the external alternator is independant of being under the hood with
the gas fumes. I know the 85 will suck gas anyhow, so what's a bit
extra drag?

Why not just get a spider coupler and mount it directly above the
crankshaft. Then you could lift it straight up and remove the cowling.
Less danger of finger damage too. Put a little top hat cover over it
with slots so it will breathe.
You would have to build some kind of bracket but you were doing that
anyway. Set the alternator down on studs and tighten it down with
castle nuts and cotter pins.

Greg, I'd considered a love-joy connection, but there's a lot of
alignment issues and vibration issues, plus the extra bracing etc, so
I had to rule that idea out. but I will confess it would make a
neater package. However I didn't totally strike the idea. With some
of the newer and more compact units like the 45 amp Nippon Denso
internal fan alternators that run very smooth and are at least 40%
smaller than the old Delco 10-SI.