hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.

Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.

Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.

There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....

On May 1, 9:19*am, "A.Boater" wrote:
Carp, crap, crap, carp. Never kept any of the nitwits out of here.

huh?

On 30/04/2010 10:31 PM, Tim wrote:
hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.

Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.

Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.

There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....

No practical way of stopping them.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

On May 1, 11:44*am, Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/04/2010 10:31 PM, Tim wrote:

hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.

Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.

Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.

There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....

No practical way of stopping them.

--
Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

Oh, I know that's true, but the bio toxin that was placed in the
chicago river was a safe guard against an invasion when they shut the
fence down for maintenance.

But it seems that the real threat of the carp is in the illinois river
in centeral Illinois, and I have no I deal why the dept. of
concervation hasn't done something to at least attempt to 'thin the
herd' in that location.

On 01/05/2010 11:01 AM, Tim wrote:
On May 1, 11:44 am, wrote:
On 30/04/2010 10:31 PM, Tim wrote:

hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.

Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.

Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.

There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....

No practical way of stopping them.

Oh, I know that's true, but the bio toxin that was placed in the
chicago river was a safe guard against an invasion when they shut the
fence down for maintenance.

But it seems that the real threat of the carp is in the illinois river
in centeral Illinois, and I have no I deal why the dept. of
concervation hasn't done something to at least attempt to 'thin the
herd' in that location.

All it takes is one breeding pair, they can make rabits look infertile.
While we like to think we can control mother nature it isn't going to
happen. So why polute the rivers more than they already are? Seems
like a waste of money and environment.

To me it is like salt and pepper. We put too much salt on our food,
then peper it up as to hide the salt. Then when too peppery we add more
salt. Really does not work.

I know if I was a fish, swiming in an electrical field would be a
shocking experience. One could even say cruelty to fish.

Mind you, haven't seen onefly yet.
--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?

On May 1, 12:21*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 01/05/2010 11:01 AM, Tim wrote:



On May 1, 11:44 am, *wrote:
On 30/04/2010 10:31 PM, Tim wrote:

hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.

Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.

Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.

There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....

No practical way of stopping them.

Oh, I know that's true, but the bio toxin that was placed in the
chicago river was a safe guard against an invasion when they shut the
fence down for maintenance.

But it seems that the real threat of the carp is in the illinois river
in centeral Illinois, and I have no I deal why the dept. of
concervation hasn't done something to at least attempt to 'thin the
herd' in that location.

All it takes is one breeding pair, they can make rabits look infertile.
* While we like to think we can control mother nature it isn't going to
happen. *So why polute the rivers more than they already are? *Seems
like a waste of money and environment.

To me it is like salt and pepper. *We put too much salt on our food,
then peper it up as to hide the salt. *Then when too peppery we add more
salt. *Really does not work.

I know if I was a fish, swiming in an electrical field would be a
shocking experience. *One could even say cruelty to fish.

Mind you, haven't seen onefly yet.
--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChwJ...eature=related

it's worth watching the whole video.

On 01/05/2010 2:39 PM, Tim wrote:
On May 1, 12:21 pm, wrote:
On 01/05/2010 11:01 AM, Tim wrote:



On May 1, 11:44 am, wrote:
On 30/04/2010 10:31 PM, Tim wrote:

hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.

Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.

Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.

There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....

No practical way of stopping them.

Oh, I know that's true, but the bio toxin that was placed in the
chicago river was a safe guard against an invasion when they shut the
fence down for maintenance.

But it seems that the real threat of the carp is in the illinois river
in centeral Illinois, and I have no I deal why the dept. of
concervation hasn't done something to at least attempt to 'thin the
herd' in that location.

All it takes is one breeding pair, they can make rabits look infertile.
While we like to think we can control mother nature it isn't going to
happen. So why polute the rivers more than they already are? Seems
like a waste of money and environment.

To me it is like salt and pepper. We put too much salt on our food,
then peper it up as to hide the salt. Then when too peppery we add more
salt. Really does not work.

I know if I was a fish, swiming in an electrical field would be a
shocking experience. One could even say cruelty to fish.

Mind you, haven't seen onefly yet.
--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChwJ...eature=related

it's worth watching the whole video.

Good video, but they may already be in the great alkes. We used to see
these large carp in Port Washington and Kenosha not too long ago. Maybe
they were not the same, but sure were the same size and similar looking.

Given 1/2 way through that video it was like raining carp, what
commercial value would they have as food, deedstock or fertilizer?
Maybe have river trawlers scoop them up. Maybe employ a few people
outside of government.

--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?

Tim wrote:
On May 1, 12:21 pm, wrote:

On 01/05/2010 11:01 AM, Tim wrote:




On May 1, 11:44 am, wrote:

On 30/04/2010 10:31 PM, Tim wrote:


hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.


Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.


Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.


There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....


No practical way of stopping them.


Oh, I know that's true, but the bio toxin that was placed in the
chicago river was a safe guard against an invasion when they shut the
fence down for maintenance.


But it seems that the real threat of the carp is in the illinois river
in centeral Illinois, and I have no I deal why the dept. of
concervation hasn't done something to at least attempt to 'thin the
herd' in that location.

All it takes is one breeding pair, they can make rabits look infertile.
While we like to think we can control mother nature it isn't going to
happen. So why polute the rivers more than they already are? Seems
like a waste of money and environment.

To me it is like salt and pepper. We put too much salt on our food,
then peper it up as to hide the salt. Then when too peppery we add more
salt. Really does not work.

I know if I was a fish, swiming in an electrical field would be a
shocking experience. One could even say cruelty to fish.

Mind you, haven't seen onefly yet.
--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChwJ...eature=related

it's worth watching the whole video.

I think a shotgun is in order!

Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/04/2010 10:31 PM, Tim wrote:
hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.

Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.

Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.

There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....

No practical way of stopping them.

It's like this. If we don't stop them and find ways to eradicate them
our waterways will become unusable.
The you tube video and reports tell of the Illinois River having
stretches no one uses because it is dangerous and perhaps mostly devoid
of native species we would want to fish for.
The Elites of Chicago and shipping interests are calling the shots and
don't give a rat's ass about the Great Lakes or millions of jobs that
will be lost if the Great Lakes are invaded by the Asian Carp. These
People that have pretty much taken over the shoreline of Lake Michigan,
Huron, Superior will find they have a view but won't go out on the water
because of Carp flying into their boats. There won't be any Salmon,
Trout, etc for them to catch and mount on the their Chicago Office walls.
The Politicians better start being rational and close the Chicago Sewage
Canal. There might be a few special interest or shipping interest hurt
for a little while but if they don't stop the Asian Carp Invasion and we
lose the Great Lakes America will lose the Great Lakes forever and
millions of more jobs forever.

On 01/05/2010 10:48 PM, lil abner wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 30/04/2010 10:31 PM, Tim wrote:
hey I talked to a guy from Havana IL today and he said that there's
almost no boating done in the Illinois river in that area because of
all the flying carp.

Way too dangerous he says because people are getting hurt when the
things jump out of the water.

Like I said in the past Instead of throwing the poison in the Chicago
Channel, they should have gone down by Peoria and started hitting them
there.

There's no reason to let the carp take over like that.....

No practical way of stopping them.

It's like this. If we don't stop them and find ways to eradicate them
our waterways will become unusable.
The you tube video and reports tell of the Illinois River having
stretches no one uses because it is dangerous and perhaps mostly devoid
of native species we would want to fish for.
The Elites of Chicago and shipping interests are calling the shots and
don't give a rat's ass about the Great Lakes or millions of jobs that
will be lost if the Great Lakes are invaded by the Asian Carp. These
People that have pretty much taken over the shoreline of Lake Michigan,
Huron, Superior will find they have a view but won't go out on the water
because of Carp flying into their boats. There won't be any Salmon,
Trout, etc for them to catch and mount on the their Chicago Office walls.
The Politicians better start being rational and close the Chicago Sewage
Canal. There might be a few special interest or shipping interest hurt
for a little while but if they don't stop the Asian Carp Invasion and we
lose the Great Lakes America will lose the Great Lakes forever and
millions of more jobs forever.

I don't disagree, but believe the damage is already done and in the
playout it is inevitable.

Take Alewife that came in. Wasn't so bad after all as Salmon stock also
not indiginious took off. Sure love catching them. Got a 30" king once
and seemed to have luck with those steelhead.

And I know first hand very large carp are already in Michigan. Don't
know what type but they are there.

And even agree with shipping being the main cause of eels and a host sof
other marine life hitching a ride. But we have decided some very long
time ago that the Great Lakes is for this.

Take how they get to the great lakes. Man made it easy as ABC.
Mississippi River no loaded with levees that make fish travel trivial.
Dredging so even marine life no on the seruface can pass.

The mere fact man is present means we will screw up the environment.
Man has yet to learn we can't manage the environemnt, it manages us.

--
Are we being heard or are we a herd?