On 7/11/10 8:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Jul 10, 7:52 pm, Harry wrote:
...it is out to **** us all...forever...

General George Casey, the Chief of Staff of the Army, said today the
United States could face another "decade or so" of persistent conflict
in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In two months, the U.S. will have been at war in Afghanistan for nine years.

- - -

These whores will do anything to stay in uniform.

Harry, it's not August yet, but I'm going to give you an early reply
to one of your posts.

Your comment about General Casey's remarks was about the most stupid,
****ing thing you've said in years. Now I know some folks will argue
about it was *really* the *most* stupid thing you've said, but they're
wrong. It was.

Generals do not keep wars going. Politicians keep wars going. Obama
could have had us out of both Iraq and Afghanistan well over a year
ago. *Obama* is making the choice of keeping us there.

General Casey is noting that it could take another decade or so to
accomplish what the friggin' politician, to wit: Obama, wants to
accomplish. Since Obama has his head up his ass and doesn't have any
idea of his goals over there, your grandchildren could well end up
there. If things change in your family, you might even hear about it.

Pray for a Republican president. She'll probably either **** or get
off the pot with regard to Afghanistan. Remember the Iraq surge that
'wouldn't work' but did?

OK, see you again in September...unless you do some *really* stupid
again.


Wow...herring thinks I give a damn whether he responds directly to one
of my posts. That's some ego working over there in herringville.

The posit is that the "officer corps" will do anything it can to stay in
uniform, including prolonging war. Without a heavy-duty war to keep
themselves busy, the officer corps will shrink, and so should the amount
of dollars wasted on the "military-industrial" complex.

The last presidents we had who knew anything real about "modern" war and
the military from the highest levels were Eisenhower and to a lesser
degree, George H.W. Bush.

There is nothing worth accomplishing in Afghanistan. If Obama thinks
otherwise, it is because his "military advisers" told him there was.

The Iraqi surge merely postponed the inevitable. Iraq will fall apart
once we pull out. Either that, or it will be ruled by a right-winger
with close ties to some ayatollah.

The military establishment will **** us over every time. If it didn't,
half of its officers would be mustered out to become substitute teachers.

"Harry " wrote in message
m...
On 7/11/10 8:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Jul 10, 7:52 pm, Harry wrote:
...it is out to **** us all...forever...

General George Casey, the Chief of Staff of the Army, said today the
United States could face another "decade or so" of persistent conflict
in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In two months, the U.S. will have been at war in Afghanistan for nine
years.

- - -

These whores will do anything to stay in uniform.

Harry, it's not August yet, but I'm going to give you an early reply
to one of your posts.

Your comment about General Casey's remarks was about the most stupid,
****ing thing you've said in years. Now I know some folks will argue
about it was *really* the *most* stupid thing you've said, but they're
wrong. It was.

Generals do not keep wars going. Politicians keep wars going. Obama
could have had us out of both Iraq and Afghanistan well over a year
ago. *Obama* is making the choice of keeping us there.

General Casey is noting that it could take another decade or so to
accomplish what the friggin' politician, to wit: Obama, wants to
accomplish. Since Obama has his head up his ass and doesn't have any
idea of his goals over there, your grandchildren could well end up
there. If things change in your family, you might even hear about it.

Pray for a Republican president. She'll probably either **** or get
off the pot with regard to Afghanistan. Remember the Iraq surge that
'wouldn't work' but did?

OK, see you again in September...unless you do some *really* stupid
again.


Wow...herring thinks I give a damn whether he responds directly to one of
my posts. That's some ego working over there in herringville.

The posit is that the "officer corps" will do anything it can to stay in
uniform, including prolonging war. Without a heavy-duty war to keep
themselves busy, the officer corps will shrink, and so should the amount
of dollars wasted on the "military-industrial" complex.

The last presidents we had who knew anything real about "modern" war and
the military from the highest levels were Eisenhower and to a lesser
degree, George H.W. Bush.

There is nothing worth accomplishing in Afghanistan. If Obama thinks
otherwise, it is because his "military advisers" told him there was.

The Iraqi surge merely postponed the inevitable. Iraq will fall apart once
we pull out. Either that, or it will be ruled by a right-winger with close
ties to some ayatollah.

The military establishment will **** us over every time. If it didn't,
half of its officers would be mustered out to become substitute teachers.


Pity the students...especially if they belong to a minority... eh Johnny!

"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...
On 7/11/10 8:46 AM, John H wrote:
On Jul 10, 7:52 pm, Harry wrote:
...it is out to **** us all...forever...

General George Casey, the Chief of Staff of the Army, said today the
United States could face another "decade or so" of persistent conflict
in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In two months, the U.S. will have been at war in Afghanistan for nine
years.

- - -

These whores will do anything to stay in uniform.

Harry, it's not August yet, but I'm going to give you an early reply
to one of your posts.

Your comment about General Casey's remarks was about the most stupid,
****ing thing you've said in years. Now I know some folks will argue
about it was *really* the *most* stupid thing you've said, but they're
wrong. It was.

Generals do not keep wars going. Politicians keep wars going. Obama
could have had us out of both Iraq and Afghanistan well over a year
ago. *Obama* is making the choice of keeping us there.

General Casey is noting that it could take another decade or so to
accomplish what the friggin' politician, to wit: Obama, wants to
accomplish. Since Obama has his head up his ass and doesn't have any
idea of his goals over there, your grandchildren could well end up
there. If things change in your family, you might even hear about it.

Pray for a Republican president. She'll probably either **** or get
off the pot with regard to Afghanistan. Remember the Iraq surge that
'wouldn't work' but did?

OK, see you again in September...unless you do some *really* stupid
again.


Wow...herring thinks I give a damn whether he responds directly to one of
my posts. That's some ego working over there in herringville.

The posit is that the "officer corps" will do anything it can to stay in
uniform, including prolonging war. Without a heavy-duty war to keep
themselves busy, the officer corps will shrink, and so should the amount
of dollars wasted on the "military-industrial" complex.

The last presidents we had who knew anything real about "modern" war and
the military from the highest levels were Eisenhower and to a lesser
degree, George H.W. Bush.

There is nothing worth accomplishing in Afghanistan. If Obama thinks
otherwise, it is because his "military advisers" told him there was.

The Iraqi surge merely postponed the inevitable. Iraq will fall apart once
we pull out. Either that, or it will be ruled by a right-winger with close
ties to some ayatollah.

The military establishment will **** us over every time. If it didn't,
half of its officers would be mustered out to become substitute teachers.


According to an eye witness, Obama has very little interest in being advised
on military affairs. Obama does what he damn well pleases. He gives the
orders. He da man. He your man, Howard the coward.

On 10/07/2010 9:32 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:11:26 -0400, "Harold'"
wrote:


"Harry wrote in message
...
...it is out to **** us all...forever...


General George Casey, the Chief of Staff of the Army, said today the
United States could face another "decade or so" of persistent conflict in
Iraq and Afghanistan.

In two months, the U.S. will have been at war in Afghanistan for nine
years.


- - -

These whores will do anything to stay in uniform.

Last time I checked O'Bama was the whore in charge.

you pro terrorism?

You can want our people out of there and not be pro-terrorism.

So far this war is getting close to two times as long as WW II and no
sight of peace.

Which means we are not winning.

And it is probably due to the fact that we in the west will not face up
to what we are really fighting. We are not fighting an army but a cult
of fascism and hate engrained right into families. If we can't
extinguish the cult, the problem will persist. The enemy is islam itself.

--

Government: We have Liberals (academic idealists), NDP (dreaming
socialists) and Conservative (lawyer scum) but where is the middle class
(common sense)?

On 10/07/2010 10:41 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:32:27 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:11:26 -0400, "Harold'"
wrote:


"Harry wrote in message
...
...it is out to **** us all...forever...


General George Casey, the Chief of Staff of the Army, said today the
United States could face another "decade or so" of persistent conflict in
Iraq and Afghanistan.

In two months, the U.S. will have been at war in Afghanistan for nine
years.


- - -

These whores will do anything to stay in uniform.

Last time I checked O'Bama was the whore in charge.

you pro terrorism?



Afghanistan has very little to do with terrorism. There may be less
than 100 al queda in Afghanistan and we are spending about 100 million
dollars a year each to try to kill them.
This is a stupid way to waste our grand kid's money at a time when the
country is in so much fiscal trouble.

I disagree. Locals are not turning in taliban. And the way taliban is
used, it can encompass any radical islam organization. It isn't like
there is just one.

--

Government: We have Liberals (academic idealists), NDP (dreaming
socialists) and Conservative (lawyer scum) but where is the middle class
(common sense)?

On 10/07/2010 8:31 PM, lil abner wrote:
Harry ? wrote:
...it is out to **** us all...forever...


General George Casey, the Chief of Staff of the Army, said today the
United States could face another "decade or so" of persistent conflict
in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In two months, the U.S. will have been at war in Afghanistan for nine
years,.


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These whores will do anything to stay in uniform.
So? Should we surrender and convert to Islam or what, because the fight
is too long for your liking?
Are you doing the fighting???
Just like the Drug addicts, Hippies and fifth columnist did to Viet Nam,
Cambodia and the whole of Southeast Asia.
How many millions, of lives did Congress's surrender, cost those people.
Your mantra why win when we can surrender? America';s proper place is
crawling on its belly begging the Muslims to leave us alone???
Whinny ass, hide behind Mama's apron bunch of socialists!
As much as we hate war and don't want any of us to die, it ain't gonna
happen. Like the Bible says there will be wars and rumors of wars til
the end of time.
Wishing the Hitlers, Stalins, Mao's, and Muhammad's, of the world will
go away don't work.

Agreed. But to make them go away you have to do what it takes.

Policing them isn't going to work, the war will be going on for millenia
as it does not work.

The answer is massive sterilization and execution of islam radicals.
Make them take polygraphs, execute supporters and RFID the rest. Treat
them like rabid cattle and thin the herd of the diseased ones.

This especially includes the cult leaders.

--

Government: We have Liberals (academic idealists), NDP (dreaming
socialists) and Conservative (lawyer scum) but where is the middle class
(common sense)?

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:41:17 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:32:27 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:11:26 -0400, "Harold'"
wrote:

These whores will do anything to stay in uniform.

Last time I checked O'Bama was the whore in charge.

you pro terrorism?



Afghanistan has very little to do with terrorism. There may be less
than 100 al queda in Afghanistan and we are spending about 100 million
dollars a year each to try to kill them.

how many al qaida do you need to launch a terrorist attack? how many
taliban sympathizers in govt do you need to provide a base (look up
the translation of 'al qaida)?

This is a stupid way to waste our grand kid's money at a time when the
country is in so much fiscal trouble.

what would be more stupid is to allow another 9/11

Al queda has moved out. we have even less chance of securing the borders
there than we do here.
If we'd have said "Hey Mr. Taliban, if you hear some loud noises around Tora
Bora, don't worry about it, just us coming in to "get some" for 9/11. Just
letting you know so that you stay out of the line of fire."
And then seriously going after that scum instead of going after the sitting
government and half assing the assaullt on al queda when they were all in a
cluster, we would be much better off than we are today.
You don't have to beknowledgeable in military history to know that taking
over a country is the easy part- holding a country is much harder, just ask
anyone that has played the game "Risk".
To me, taking over Afghanistan made as much sense as the rumors of that big
weather changing machine tha USAF is supposed to have causing the Haiti
earthquakes so that the US could take over the country. Who the hell in his
or her right mind would want either country?

The 100 in Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11.
In case you haven't heard. Bin Laden's gang is supposed to be in
Pakistan and he has been there since Tora Bora, about a trillion
dollars and over a thousand coalition lives ago.

And by driving them over the border instead of dealing with them when we had
the chance, we've caused the destabilization of Pakistan by causing regional
and ethnic rifts. Pakistan is a nuclear armed country and those nukes could
end up in the hands of a government or faction that is controlled by or
actually is al queda and/or taliban.
That last round of White House ass clowns did us no favors, looking like the
current group of ass clowns isn't going to fix things.


We have hitched our hopes to a corrupt government in a country famous
for grinding up super powers, somehow thinking everything will work
out for us.

We love throwing stones at other peoples corruption, but what about our own?
Lobbyist, corporate sponsership of our politicians thru campaign
contributions (remainders of which BELONG to the candidate after that
particular election) and free media coverage all for sake of buying access
and influence are legalized by the scum taking the payoffs.

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:10:37 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:37:00 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

We have hitched our hopes to a corrupt government in a country famous
for grinding up super powers, somehow thinking everything will work
out for us.

you guys think that 'grinding up superpowers' is a profound
observation

it's a cliche. afghanistan has been conquered 3 times in the last 1000
years.

People have occupied Kabul but the mountains we are in were never
"conquered".

tell it to ghengis khan.

On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:34:59 -0400, "mmc" wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:41:17 -0400, wrote:



This is a stupid way to waste our grand kid's money at a time when the
country is in so much fiscal trouble.

what would be more stupid is to allow another 9/11

Al queda has moved out. we have even less chance of securing the borders
there than we do here.

which is OK. we win the war if we prevent the taliban from taking
power.

If we'd have said "Hey Mr. Taliban, if you hear some loud noises around Tora
Bora, don't worry about it, just us coming in to "get some" for 9/11. Just
letting you know so that you stay out of the line of fire."

on 9/11 there was no functional difference between AQ and the taliban.
now there is. i have no objections at all to negotiating with
elements of the taliban...as long as they keep their noses clean


And then seriously going after that scum instead of going after the sitting
government and half assing the assaullt on al queda when they were all in a
cluster, we would be much better off than we are today.

yep. bush screwed the pooch by trying to fight the war on the cheap.