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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:17:57 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:41:06 -0400, "Harry ?"
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Maybe if we spent about 1% of what we are spending in the war, to
help
them, we wouldn't need to have the war.

Our military budget is almost as lopsided as theirs.


Wishful thinking. Sounds like what My brother Suckular Harry might
say.

We spend more money on defense than the whole rest of the world
combined.

Thank the Chinese and the Russians. Take away all the threats, and we
would not
need any defense budget.
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John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

You moron. The Chinese and Russians are not much of a threat any more, at
least not in a nuclear fashion. If anything, they're economic threats,
more
so the Chinese. We need to rethink how we spend our military money.
Another
B1 bomber (or whatever) isn't going to make us any safer. In fact, it's
going to make us less safe, since we're bankrupting ourselves to do it.


Sorry, honey. I know you stick up for me alot, but if you think that
China and Russia "are not much of a threat any more", I certainly
wouldn't go around calling others morons.

You sure need to get out more. You waste a lot of time foaming at the mouth
and spoofing people.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:16:30 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:02:56 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
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bull****. for example, we were afghanistan's largest donor BEFORE 9/11

how'd that work out?

How many Afghanis were in on the planning or execution of 9-11?
Zero

wrong. ever hear of the taliban? they're pashtuns. about 40% of
afghanis are pashtun

oh. you didnt know that.

The Germans had as much to do with 9-11 as Afghanistan.

really? bin laden was bankrolling the german govt?

The major planning was done in Germany and Spain.

irrelevant. it was done with the cooperation of the taliban

you just have a sympathy for nazi fascists

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:10:41 -0400, Secular Humanist
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Thank the Chinese and the Russians. Take away all the threats, and we
would not
need any defense budget.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

You moron. The Chinese and Russians are not much of a threat any more,
at
least not in a nuclear fashion. If anything, they're economic threats,
more
so the Chinese. We need to rethink how we spend our military money.
Another
B1 bomber (or whatever) isn't going to make us any safer. In fact, it's
going to make us less safe, since we're bankrupting ourselves to do it.


Sorry, honey. I know you stick up for me alot, but if you think that
China and Russia "are not much of a threat any more", I certainly
wouldn't go around calling others morons.

The Russians and Chinese are not much of a military threat, I doubt
they ever were. The problem with China is the economic threat. They
hold enough of our money to crush us.

True, but they would crush themselves even worse. It's unlikely, or it's
about as likely as Cheney being voted most popular former VP.

Spending as much as we do on defense is foolish. That is one of the
factors that brought down the Soviets and what is keeping North Korea
in poverty.

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:32:54 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:26:15 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:16:30 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:02:56 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
r.

bull****. for example, we were afghanistan's largest donor BEFORE 9/11

how'd that work out?

How many Afghanis were in on the planning or execution of 9-11?
Zero

wrong. ever hear of the taliban? they're pashtuns. about 40% of
afghanis are pashtun

oh. you didnt know that.


I certainly didn't know the Saudis who perpetrated 9-11 were Pashtun
They were Sunis. But you ignore that.

uh...osama bin laden?

he is saudi. and he was in afghanistan

khalid sheikh mohammed? captured in pakistand...

but you ignore that.

after all, they only killed 3000 americans.

The Pashtun don't care about anything but getting us out of Pakistan.

no one gives a **** what they think.

For that matter you told me, Bin Laden only wanted to get us out of
Saudi Arabia.

it was none of his ****ing business. he's another fascist imperialist
murderer...the kind that warms the cockles of your heart.


The Germans had as much to do with 9-11 as Afghanistan.

really? bin laden was bankrolling the german govt?

Now you are inventing things. Bin Laden was "bankrolling" Afghanistan?

guess who ran afghanistan?

a group known as the 'taliban'. and guess who bankrolled them?

oh. you didn't know this



The major planning was done in Germany and Spain.

irrelevant. it was done with the cooperation of the taliban

you just have a sympathy for nazi fascists

You seem to be the nazi here. You want the genocide of all Muslims.

i dont give a **** about them or their ignorant religion. they're just
a bit more ignorant and barbaric than the murderous christians.

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:42:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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The Russians and Chinese are not much of a military threat, I doubt
they ever were. The problem with China is the economic threat. They
hold enough of our money to crush us.

True, but they would crush themselves even worse.

It would certainly be less damaging to them than a war and we seem to
be spending $790 billion on defending from that.

I don't think we're spending $790B defending against China. It's a bit more
complicated than that.

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:38:12 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:42:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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The Russians and Chinese are not much of a military threat, I doubt
they ever were. The problem with China is the economic threat. They
hold enough of our money to crush us.

True, but they would crush themselves even worse.

It would certainly be less damaging to them than a war and we seem to
be spending $790 billion on defending from that.

I don't think we're spending $790B defending against China. It's a bit
more
complicated than that.

It is still far too much money. We are spending 100 billion dollars a
year in a country with a GDP of $27 billion trying to kill 40 guys.
How does that make any sense?
Bob likes to complain about Iraq but at least we toppled a dictator
who threatened Israel. I am not sure we have done anything in
Afghanistan but create more terrorists and destabilize Pakistan.

There's no way to equate the two situations. We spent $1+ trillion and
counting in Iraq. One is a war, the other is just a waste of money.

On Aug 24, 2:20*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:38:12 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:42:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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The Russians and Chinese are not much of a military threat, I doubt
they ever were. The problem with China is the economic threat. They
hold enough of our money to crush us.

True, but they would crush themselves even worse.

It would certainly be less damaging to them than a war and we seem to
be spending $790 billion on defending from that.

I don't think we're spending $790B defending against China. It's a bit
more
complicated than that.

It is still far too much money. We are spending 100 billion dollars a
year in a country with a GDP of $27 billion trying to kill 40 guys.
How does that make any sense?
Bob likes to complain about Iraq but at least we toppled a dictator
who threatened Israel. I am not sure we have done anything in
Afghanistan but create more terrorists and destabilize Pakistan.

There's no way to equate the two situations. We spent $1+ trillion and
counting in Iraq. One is a war, the other is just a waste of money.

Indeed, D'Plume. A waste of money, just like the stimulus package.

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:38:12 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:42:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

The Russians and Chinese are not much of a military threat, I doubt
they ever were. The problem with China is the economic threat. They
hold enough of our money to crush us.

True, but they would crush themselves even worse.

It would certainly be less damaging to them than a war and we seem to
be spending $790 billion on defending from that.

I don't think we're spending $790B defending against China. It's a bit
more
complicated than that.

It is still far too much money. We are spending 100 billion dollars a
year in a country with a GDP of $27 billion trying to kill 40 guys.
How does that make any sense?
Bob likes to complain about Iraq but at least we toppled a dictator
who threatened Israel. I am not sure we have done anything in
Afghanistan but create more terrorists and destabilize Pakistan.


So she is right? Your $790B figure is a gross overstatement. She has you by
the short hairs so to speak.

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I'm the real Harry, and I post from a Mac, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a Mac, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his own ID.

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On Aug 24, 2:20 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:38:12 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:42:16 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

The Russians and Chinese are not much of a military threat, I doubt
they ever were. The problem with China is the economic threat. They
hold enough of our money to crush us.

True, but they would crush themselves even worse.

It would certainly be less damaging to them than a war and we seem to
be spending $790 billion on defending from that.

I don't think we're spending $790B defending against China. It's a bit
more
complicated than that.

It is still far too much money. We are spending 100 billion dollars a
year in a country with a GDP of $27 billion trying to kill 40 guys.
How does that make any sense?
Bob likes to complain about Iraq but at least we toppled a dictator
who threatened Israel. I am not sure we have done anything in
Afghanistan but create more terrorists and destabilize Pakistan.

There's no way to equate the two situations. We spent $1+ trillion and
counting in Iraq. One is a war, the other is just a waste of money.

Indeed, D'Plume. A waste of money, just like the stimulus package.

Indeed, you are a moron.

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On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:20:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I don't think we're spending $790B defending against China. It's a bit
more
complicated than that.

It is still far too much money. We are spending 100 billion dollars a
year in a country with a GDP of $27 billion trying to kill 40 guys.
How does that make any sense?
Bob likes to complain about Iraq but at least we toppled a dictator
who threatened Israel. I am not sure we have done anything in
Afghanistan but create more terrorists and destabilize Pakistan.

There's no way to equate the two situations. We spent $1+ trillion and
counting in Iraq. One is a war, the other is just a waste of money.


Which is which? I understand Saddam is gone but Bin Laden is still
around.

?? Not sure of your point. Iraq was a war of choice that cost us $1+T, not
counting the 100000s of ruined/lost lives. How does that equate to a few
missiles targeting China?