My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

In article 794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...



And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash container.

P.S. You still living across from the cemetery?

In article ,
says...

In article 794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...

Oh, and the Occoume is very light. The brand I used was about 22 pounds
for a 4x8 sheet of 6mm 5 ply... If you frame with Mahogany (also very
light) or even Doug Fir, you can make the boat very light. I am not
familiar with the cup though, maybe the weight is part of the equation
for the boat to perform properly?

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

"Secular Humanist" wrote in message
news
On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...



And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash
container.

P.S. You still living across from the cemetery?

~~ Snerk ~~
ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me!

In article ,
says...

"Secular Humanist" wrote in message
news
On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...



And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash
container.

P.S. You still living across from the cemetery?

~~ Snerk ~~
ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me!

Simpletons are easily amused. What's "killin'" you is you can't breath
with your nose stuck so far up my fat ass.

On 8/23/10 3:00 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular Humanist" wrote in message
news
On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...



And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash
container.

P.S. You still living across from the cemetery?

~~ Snerk ~~
ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me!


I could have sworn the little man posted that he lived across the street
or next to some sort of cemetery.

In article ,
says...

On 8/23/10 3:00 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular Humanist" wrote in message
news
On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...



And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash
container.

P.S. You still living across from the cemetery?

~~ Snerk ~~
ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me!


I could have sworn the little man posted that he lived across the street
or next to some sort of cemetery.

Spoofer alert! I certainly haven't actually had to have someone tell me
something to try and convince others here that it's true. Look at the
lies I started about other's family members.

YukonBound wrote:


"Secular Humanist" wrote in message
news
On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...



And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash
container.

P.S. You still living across from the cemetery?

~~ Snerk ~~
ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me!
If only that were true, lemming...

On 8/23/10 7:20 PM, Larry wrote:
YukonBound wrote:


"Secular Humanist" wrote in message
news
On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3
@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...

My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe
3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least
once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes
it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year
waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where
I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her
insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she
seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy
and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion
the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her.
Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her
structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the
decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy.
I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so
they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a
small boat because it is then too heavy.
Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for
glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed
for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so
enclosed like the interior of a small boat?

Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088
Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every
few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088
almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it
has not started to delaminate or rot yet...



And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash
container.

P.S. You still living across from the cemetery?

~~ Snerk ~~
ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me!
If only that were true, lemming...


How's that boat of yours, Bertie?