On 9/1/2010 5:45 PM, Billy wrote:
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Backdoor attempt by anti-gunners to restrict firearms rights. Death by a
million cuts methodology.

There are alternatives to lead in ammunition, but it raises the cost
substantially. Common sense is
needed with this issue.

The common sense of not polluting the environment, or the common sense
that the EPA won't mess with the NRA in an election year?


the common sense that expended lead ammunition is not hazardous waste.


That expended lead ammunition is not hazardous waste isn't common sense,
it's wrong. If you don't live in a hunting area, or have a waterway that
passes through a hunting area, or if you don't live near a firing range,
the bill would have little impact on your health. On the other hand if
you take game in an area that has been used for hunting, you may be
bringing home lead in the game that you eat. Carbon dioxide and water
form carbonic acid, which is enough to make lead mobile.
You have a right to your opinion, but not your facts.
http://www.belleville.k12.wi.us/bhs/...dpollution.htm

http://www.epa.gov/lead/
http://www.ewg.org/reports/poisonouspastime
http://www.princeton.edu/~rmizzo/firingrange.htm
Lead is all through our soils. There are old lead silver mines mined by
Indians scattered all across many sections of the Country. Traces of it
are every where. You cannot get rid of lead, in the environment. Lead
shot on heavily hunted water ways where Ducks sift the bottom for snails
is one thing. It has been addressed. Banning ordinary lead rifle and
handgun bullets is another. It is purely a thinly disguised ploy of the
victim disarmament bunch.
The mentality of this group is turning automobiles into appliances that
no one wants to ride in or can afford. They will nibble the edges of
every agenda until they do away with or make it so unaffordable or so
regulated that Americans cannot obtain them.

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On 9/1/2010 5:45 PM, Billy wrote:
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wrote in message
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In ,
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"lil wrote in message
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...nfidential/env
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mental-protection-agency-considering-a-ban-on-lead-ammunition-101492439.
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Backdoor attempt by anti-gunners to restrict firearms rights. Death by
a
million cuts methodology.

There are alternatives to lead in ammunition, but it raises the cost
substantially. Common sense is
needed with this issue.

The common sense of not polluting the environment, or the common sense
that the EPA won't mess with the NRA in an election year?


the common sense that expended lead ammunition is not hazardous waste.


That expended lead ammunition is not hazardous waste isn't common sense,
it's wrong. If you don't live in a hunting area, or have a waterway that
passes through a hunting area, or if you don't live near a firing range,
the bill would have little impact on your health. On the other hand if
you take game in an area that has been used for hunting, you may be
bringing home lead in the game that you eat. Carbon dioxide and water
form carbonic acid, which is enough to make lead mobile.
You have a right to your opinion, but not your facts.
http://www.belleville.k12.wi.us/bhs/...dpollution.htm

http://www.epa.gov/lead/
http://www.ewg.org/reports/poisonouspastime
http://www.princeton.edu/~rmizzo/firingrange.htm
Lead is all through our soils. There are old lead silver mines mined by
Indians scattered all across many sections of the Country. Traces of it
are every where. You cannot get rid of lead, in the environment. Lead
shot on heavily hunted water ways where Ducks sift the bottom for snails
is one thing. It has been addressed. Banning ordinary lead rifle and
handgun bullets is another. It is purely a thinly disguised ploy of the
victim disarmament bunch.
The mentality of this group is turning automobiles into appliances that
no one wants to ride in or can afford. They will nibble the edges of
every agenda until they do away with or make it so unaffordable or so
regulated that Americans cannot obtain them.

I said it may not be an immediate problem to you, depending on where you
live, but lead is bad news to small children at low levels. It may be a
small problem to you, but it will be a problem to some one. I'm just
sayin', be aware.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

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"lil abner" wrote in message
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...fidential/envi
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Backdoor attempt by anti-gunners to restrict firearms rights. Death by a
million cuts methodology.

There are alternatives to lead in ammunition, but it raises the cost
substantially. Common sense is
needed with this issue.

The common sense of not polluting the environment, or the common sense
that the EPA won't mess with the NRA in an election year?


the common sense that expended lead ammunition is not hazardous waste.

Apparently it is.

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"Wallace" wrote:

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"NapalmHeart" wrote:

"lil abner" wrote in message
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...fidential/envi
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Backdoor attempt by anti-gunners to restrict firearms rights. Death
by a
million cuts methodology.

There are alternatives to lead in ammunition, but it raises the cost
substantially. Common sense is
needed with this issue.

The common sense of not polluting the environment, or the common sense
that the EPA won't mess with the NRA in an election year?


the common sense that expended lead ammunition is not hazardous waste.

Apparently it is.

But not at the quantity that is being injected. By example the level of
lead from most industrial applications (coal slag being but one) is far in
excess than ammunition lead in the continental USA.

IF EPA was working on logic and not political agenda coal slag by itself
would be much more attention. Not sure but working from memory coal slag
has been getting little or NONE for near 10 years.